Messages In This Digest (11 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: Syahril Riz
- 1b.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: Harris Bin Haron
- 1c.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: hide ID
- 1d.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: bwasi
- 1e.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: Nazri Ahtar
- 1f.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: bashah
- 1g.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: Nazri Ahtar
- 1h.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: bashah
- 1i.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: hide ID
- 1j.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: hide ID
- 1k.
- Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru From: MikaeL
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- 1a.
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "Syahril Riz" Syahril_riz@yahoo.com syahril_riz
Mon Oct 4, 2010 10:24 pm (PDT)
Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
Touch n Go
Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight
Robbery
Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
How Often Do You Reload Your
Card?
Have You Hold
The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
Do you also aware
that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan
only!
Therefore, for those
who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired.
It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing
through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this
year.
It is estimated over
283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this
year.
You need to renew the
Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for
10 years as well. Therefore, it cost
RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
Renewal can be done
at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the
highways.
You may check your
also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or
call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
By doing a simple
Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the
expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
Why must cardholders
force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the
one they are currently holding?
Touch 'n Go operator
already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit
collected from million motorist previously and will continue to
benefit.
Let assume each of
the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation
figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation.
Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term
of interest!
Plus if you reload
your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge
RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is
free.
The reload and
renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit
from the deposit collected!
Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@yahoo.com <hide@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hide@yahoo.com <hide@yahoo.com>
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
Pls hide my Id,
aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh
berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila
smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@yahoo.com.sg ]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card

----- Original Message -----
From:
Rafi
-----Original Message-----
From: siti
-----Original Message-----
From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@kl.texchemcorp.com ]
From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@ap.sony.com ]
Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go
Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak
kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
- 1b.
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "Harris Bin Haron" Harris@maa.com.my
Mon Oct 4, 2010 10:47 pm (PDT)
2.83 million tuh.... Untung atas angin.....
[cid:image001.jpg@01CB6493. ]3FD78490
_____________________ _________ __
From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Syahril Riz
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery<http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan only!
Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this year.
You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the highways.
You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will continue to benefit.
Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit from the deposit collected!
Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@yahoo.com <hide@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hide@yahoo.com <hide@yahoo.com>
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
Pls hide my Id,
aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
_____________________ _________ __
From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@yahoo.com.sg ]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card

----- Original Message -----
From: Rafi</mc/compose?to=Rafi@mettube. >com
-----Original Message-----
From: siti
-----Original Message-----
From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@kl.texchemcorp.com ]
From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@ap.sony.com ]
Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go<http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
[cid:image002.jpg@01CB6493. ]<http://3.bp.3FD78490 blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "hide ID" hide ID hisyam_ahmad
Tue Oct 5, 2010 12:01 am (PDT)
Mintak hide ID, tokmod..
Saya bukanlah pro mana2 pihak tetapi melihat dari sudut rasional secara teknikal.
Adakah RM10 untuk 10 tahun menjadi satu isu besar? Cuba kita lihat RM10 tu utk apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos penyelenggaraan data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah sangat-sangat patut kalau kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol tunai... janganla melihat dengan simple math sebab life is not that simple..
Kalau iya pun ada profit, itu kan bisnes. Bisnes apa yg tak mahu profit.. hehehe...
Hisyam Ahmad
_____
From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@yahoo.com ]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery <http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan only!
Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this year.
You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the highways.
You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will continue to benefit.
Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit from the deposit collected!
Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@yahoo.com <hide@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hide@yahoo.com <hide@yahoo.com>
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
Pls hide my Id,
aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
_____
From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@yahoo.com.sg ]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card

----- Original Message -----
From: Rafi
-----Original Message-----
From: siti
-----Original Message-----
From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@kl.texchemcorp.com ]
From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@ap.sony.com ]
Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go <http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
<http://3.bp.blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
- 1d.
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "bwasi" bwasi@yahoo.com bwasi
Tue Oct 5, 2010 12:19 am (PDT)
Ok, tapi kalau kad tak rosak , kenapa perlu tukar ?
mat salleh cakap """If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , hide ID wrote:
>
> Mintak hide ID, tokmod..
>
>
>
> Saya bukanlah pro mana2 pihak tetapi melihat dari sudut rasional secara teknikal.
>
>
>
> Adakah RM10 untuk 10 tahun menjadi satu isu besar? Cuba kita lihat RM10 tu utk apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos penyelenggaraan data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah sangat-sangat patut kalau kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol tunai... janganla melihat dengan simple math sebab life is not that simple..
>
>
>
> Kalau iya pun ada profit, itu kan bisnes. Bisnes apa yg tak mahu profit.. hehehe...
>
>
>
> Hisyam Ahmad
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
>
>
>
> Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
>
>
>
> lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery <http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
>
>
> How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
>
>
> Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
>
>
>
>
> Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan only!
>
> Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
>
> It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this year.
>
>
>
> You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
>
> Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the highways.
>
> You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
>
> By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
>
> Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
>
> Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will continue to benefit.
>
> Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
>
> Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
>
> The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit from the deposit collected!
>
>
>
> Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@... <hide@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: hide@... <hide@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
> To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
> Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
>
>
>
> Pls hide my Id,
>
>
>
> aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
>
>
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>
> _____
>
> From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@...]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
> To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rafi
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: siti
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@...]
>
>
>
> From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@.. .]
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
>
>
> Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go <http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
>
> <http://3.bp.blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
>
>
> Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
>
> Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
>
> Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
>
> Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
>
> Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
>
> Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
>
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com littlenoti
Tue Oct 5, 2010 1:07 am (PDT)
Salam,
mungkin diaorang nak upgrade cip dalam tu. dari 128bit kepada 256bit ke (contoh la). boleh letak encryption yg lebih bagus, data yg lebih besar, protection yg lebih baik. mungkin lepas ini diaorang nak upgrade service, guna smart tag tanpa perlu lalu tol booth, dan bermacam2 lagi teknologi baru yg mungkin tak terpikir (apatah lagi tersenarai dalam senarai pendek saya ini)
ambil contoh astro dulu la. diaorang tukar card sebab ada orang boleh hack card, dan boleh open semua channel tanpa perlu subscribe ke astro. sebab kedua, diaorang upgrade channel, jadi storage dalam card perlu lebih besar. ketiga, diaorang dah fikir pasal astro beyond sebelum diaorang promo.
jadi investment RM10 untuk upgrade ke ciri2 yg lebih bagus, saya tak kisah.
sekian pandangan saya.
rgds,Nazri Ahtar
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, bwasi <bwasi@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: bwasi <bwasi@yahoo.com >
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:19 PM
Ok, tapi kalau kad tak rosak , kenapa perlu tukar ?
mat salleh cakap """If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , hide ID wrote:
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> Mintak hide ID, tokmod..
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>
>
> Saya bukanlah pro mana2 pihak tetapi melihat dari sudut rasional secara teknikal.
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>
>
> Adakah RM10 untuk 10 tahun menjadi satu isu besar? Cuba kita lihat RM10 tu utk apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos penyelenggaraan data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah sangat-sangat patut kalau kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol tunai... janganla melihat dengan simple math sebab life is not that simple..
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> Kalau iya pun ada profit, itu kan bisnes. Bisnes apa yg tak mahu profit.. hehehe...
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> Hisyam Ahmad
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>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
>
>
>
> Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
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> lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
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>
> Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery <http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
>
>
> How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
>
>
> Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
>
>
>
>
> Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan only!
>
> Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
>
> It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this year.
>
>
>
> You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
>
> Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the highways.
>
> You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
>
> By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
>
> Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
>
> Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will continue to benefit.
>
> Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
>
> Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
>
> The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit from the deposit collected!
>
>
>
> Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@... <hide@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: hide@... <hide@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
> To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
> Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
>
>
>
> Pls hide my Id,
>
>
>
> aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@...]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
> To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rafi
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: siti
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@...]
>
>
>
> From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@.. .]
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
>
>
> Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go <http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
>
> <http://3.bp.blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
>
>
> Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
>
> Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
>
> Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
>
> Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
>
> Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
>
> Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
>
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "bashah" bwasi@yahoo.com bwasi
Tue Oct 5, 2010 1:25 am (PDT)
itu adalah sangkaan yg baik.... namun hakikat setakat ni aku tengok samajer...takde perubahan yg mewajarkan...kalau betul kenapa TnG tak explain kpd pengguna, ni sonyap jor...duit jumping pun sonyap, mana tak public mushkil ? buatlah online act TnG2u.com.my boleh kita semak act tu..betulka depa kira..ada transparency ......baru2 aku tengok tol sg besi sampai 3 lorong Smart tag, 3 lorong Tng dan cuma 2 lorong tunai....buat 2 lorong dahla,,sedekah kat tunai lagi 2 lorong jadi 4 lorong...kesian aku tengok beratur panjang tu...dg baby, mak baby..lagi2 bapak baby....walaupun aku pakai Smtag...lagi sekali ..apa jadi dg promotion depa ni ttg Smtag dan TnG ?
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@...> wrote:
>
> Salam,
> mungkin diaorang nak upgrade cip dalam tu. dari 128bit kepada 256bit ke (contoh la). boleh letak encryption yg lebih bagus, data yg lebih besar, protection yg lebih baik. mungkin lepas ini diaorang nak upgrade service, guna smart tag tanpa perlu lalu tol booth, dan bermacam2 lagi teknologi baru yg mungkin tak terpikir (apatah lagi tersenarai dalam senarai pendek saya ini)
> ambil contoh astro dulu la. diaorang tukar card sebab ada orang boleh hack card, dan boleh open semua channel tanpa perlu subscribe ke astro. sebab kedua, diaorang upgrade channel, jadi storage dalam card perlu lebih besar. ketiga, diaorang dah fikir pasal astro beyond sebelum diaorang promo.
> jadi investment RM10 untuk upgrade ke ciri2 yg lebih bagus, saya tak kisah.
> sekian pandangan saya.
>
> rgds,Nazri Ahtar
>
> --- On Tue, 10/5/10, bwasi <bwasi@...> wrote:
>
> From: bwasi <bwasi@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:19 PM
>
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> Ok, tapi kalau kad tak rosak , kenapa perlu tukar ?
>
>
>
> mat salleh cakap """If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
>
>
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , hide ID wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Mintak hide ID, tokmod..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Saya bukanlah pro mana2 pihak tetapi melihat dari sudut rasional secara teknikal.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Adakah RM10 untuk 10 tahun menjadi satu isu besar? Cuba kita lihat RM10 tu utk apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos penyelenggaraan data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah sangat-sangat patut kalau kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol tunai... janganla melihat dengan simple math sebab life is not that simple..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Kalau iya pun ada profit, itu kan bisnes. Bisnes apa yg tak mahu profit.. hehehe...
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hisyam Ahmad
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > _____
>
> >
>
> > From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@]
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
>
> > To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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> > Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> > Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery <http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan only!
>
> >
>
> > Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
>
> >
>
> > It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this year.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
>
> >
>
> > Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the highways.
>
> >
>
> > You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
>
> >
>
> > By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
>
> >
>
> > Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
>
> >
>
> > Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will continue to benefit.
>
> >
>
> > Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
>
> >
>
> > Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
>
> >
>
> > The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit from the deposit collected!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@ <hide@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: hide@ <hide@>
>
> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
> > To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
>
> > Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Pls hide my Id,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > _____
>
> >
>
> > From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@]
>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
>
> > To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
>
> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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> > 
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> >
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> >
>
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
>
> > From: Rafi
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: siti
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@]
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@]
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
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> > Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go <http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
>
> >
>
> > <http://3.bp.blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
>
> >
>
> > Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
>
> >
>
> > Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
>
> >
>
> > Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
>
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com littlenoti
Tue Oct 5, 2010 1:33 am (PDT)
Salam,
Isteri saya seorang pengguna tetap touch n go. alhamdulllillah, sepanjang dia belajar sambil bekerja, tiap2 bulan dia dapat 20% rebate dari PLUS. malah, sebelum dapat rebate, dia terlebih dahulu akan tahu berapa jumlah rebate yg akan dapat melalui internet.
apa yang dilakukan, hanyalah mendaftarkan kad touch n go secara online. mungkin kita pun boleh buat perkara yg sama, bukan ?
rgds,Nazri Ahtar
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com >
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 4:25 PM
itu adalah sangkaan yg baik.... namun hakikat setakat ni aku tengok samajer...takde perubahan yg mewajarkan...kalau betul kenapa TnG tak explain kpd pengguna, ni sonyap jor...duit jumping pun sonyap, mana tak public mushkil ? buatlah online act TnG2u.com.my boleh kita semak act tu..betulka depa kira..ada transparency ......baru2 aku tengok tol sg besi sampai 3 lorong Smart tag, 3 lorong Tng dan cuma 2 lorong tunai....buat 2 lorong dahla,,sedekah kat tunai lagi 2 lorong jadi 4 lorong...kesian aku tengok beratur panjang tu...dg baby, mak baby..lagi2 bapak baby....walaupun aku pakai Smtag...lagi sekali ..apa jadi dg promotion depa ni ttg Smtag dan TnG ?
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@...> wrote:
>
> Salam,
> mungkin diaorang nak upgrade cip dalam tu. dari 128bit kepada 256bit ke (contoh la). boleh letak encryption yg lebih bagus, data yg lebih besar, protection yg lebih baik. mungkin lepas ini diaorang nak upgrade service, guna smart tag tanpa perlu lalu tol booth, dan bermacam2 lagi teknologi baru yg mungkin tak terpikir (apatah lagi tersenarai dalam senarai pendek saya ini)
> ambil contoh astro dulu la. diaorang tukar card sebab ada orang boleh hack card, dan boleh open semua channel tanpa perlu subscribe ke astro. sebab kedua, diaorang upgrade channel, jadi storage dalam card perlu lebih besar. ketiga, diaorang dah fikir pasal astro beyond sebelum diaorang promo.
> jadi investment RM10 untuk upgrade ke ciri2 yg lebih bagus, saya tak kisah.
> sekian pandangan saya.
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> rgds,Nazri Ahtar
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> --- On Tue, 10/5/10, bwasi <bwasi@...> wrote:
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> From: bwasi <bwasi@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "bashah" bwasi@yahoo.com bwasi
Tue Oct 5, 2010 2:03 am (PDT)
Good Info thanks Nazri....bukan PLUS tapi TnG...pokcik kt kg yg takde internet cam nak register..apa salahnya beri diskaun automatik tanpa register? setiap kad kan ada chip?...lagipun bukan semuanya aware kut sebab tidak ada surat snailmail yg dihantar padahal TnG ada database....iklan kat tv pun takde macam iklan kit kat tu....jadi TnG dianggap tak all-out to promote discount ni....padahal iklan gomen yg lain punyerlah banyak ...apapun aku masih tak layak dapat rebat ni....terimakasih pd pengundi PRU yg lepas, kalau tak diskaun TnG, diskaun toll Raya (PLUS dan sejenis dgnya) hanyalah mimpi...
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http://www.touchngo.com.my/
20% Rebate Toll is a frequent travellers programme sponsored by Malaysian Government for all qualifed Touch 'n Go (TNG) card users who use the TNG card for toll payment at all highways from September 1 2009 onwards.
To qualify, cardholders will need to use TNG card a minimum of 80 times to pay for any toll payment in all highways in Malaysia within a calendar month. A 20% rebate is given to the qualified cardholders calculated as 20% of all the transaction amount. To view the rebate entitlements, cardholders must register in this portal. Cardholders can redeem the rebates via card reload at all the 136 TNG sales counters.
Touch N Go Sdn Bhd (TNG) is the operator of Touch `n Go, SmartTAG and The Central Clearing House System (CCHS). Incorporated in October 1996 and officially launched its services in March 1997 at Metramac Highway and PLUS Expressways, TNG provides contactless means of fare payment services via a pre-paid e-payment card called the Touch `n Go card.Touch `n Go enhances the convenience and efficiency of paying for low-value but high frequency transactions.
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@...> wrote:
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> Salam,
> Isteri saya seorang pengguna tetap touch n go. alhamdulllillah, sepanjang dia belajar sambil bekerja, tiap2 bulan dia dapat 20% rebate dari PLUS. malah, sebelum dapat rebate, dia terlebih dahulu akan tahu berapa jumlah rebate yg akan dapat melalui internet.
> apa yang dilakukan, hanyalah mendaftarkan kad touch n go secara online. mungkin kita pun boleh buat perkara yg sama, bukan ?
>
> rgds,Nazri Ahtar
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> --- On Tue, 10/5/10, bashah <bwasi@...> wrote:
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> From: bashah <bwasi@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 4:25 PM
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> --- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@> wrote:
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> > Salam,
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> > mungkin diaorang nak upgrade cip dalam tu. dari 128bit kepada 256bit ke (contoh la). boleh letak encryption yg lebih bagus, data yg lebih besar, protection yg lebih baik. mungkin lepas ini diaorang nak upgrade service, guna smart tag tanpa perlu lalu tol booth, dan bermacam2 lagi teknologi baru yg mungkin tak terpikir (apatah lagi tersenarai dalam senarai pendek saya ini)
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> > ambil contoh astro dulu la. diaorang tukar card sebab ada orang boleh hack card, dan boleh open semua channel tanpa perlu subscribe ke astro. sebab kedua, diaorang upgrade channel, jadi storage dalam card perlu lebih besar. ketiga, diaorang dah fikir pasal astro beyond sebelum diaorang promo.
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> > jadi investment RM10 untuk upgrade ke ciri2 yg lebih bagus, saya tak kisah.
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> > sekian pandangan saya.
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> > --- On Tue, 10/5/10, bwasi <bwasi@> wrote:
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> > > Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
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> > > To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
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> > > aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "hide ID" hide ID lancer_evo78
Tue Oct 5, 2010 3:00 am (PDT)
Hide id, tok mod
Sorry, 1 tahun…
1.
What is the definition of DORMANT or INACTIVE TOUCH 'n GO CARD?
Under the Terms & Conditions of Touch 'n Go card, an inactive card is
defined as a card which has not had any Card Transactions by way of Add
Value Transaction or which has not had any utilisation of its pre-paid
balances with any Service Providers for a consecutive period of 12 months.
2.
How to keep my Touch 'n Go card active?
Your card will remain active as long as you reload or use at least once a
year.
3.
What do I do if my Touch 'n Go card has been deactivated?
Please visit our counter to surrender your card and get back your unutilised
card balance (subject to the terms & conditions
<http://www.touchngo.com.my/WhatTNG_ > )card_TNG_ 2_I.html
4.
Why TNGSB needs to deactivate dormant card?
There is quite a number of dormant or inactive Touch 'n Go cards in our
system. These dormant cards have caused unnecessary load that prevent the
system from operating optimally, thus affecting our service level to all
active users. By deactivating these non-active cards, we will be able to
streamline our system to improve system efficiency and to provide good
services to all our customers.
5.
Will there be a fee when a card is deactivated?
a.
Once a card is deactivated, an ADMINISTRATION FEE of RM5.00 will be imposed
immediately and deducted from the deposit or unutilised card balance.
b.
In the event of a deactivated card continues to remain inactive, a
MAINTENANCE FEE of RM5.00 will be charged and deducted from the said deposit
or unutilised card balance once every six (6) months.
c.
We will stop charging maintenance fee when the card is reactivated, returned
for refund or until the deposit and card balance are depleted.
6.
Why TNGSB imposes a deactivation fee and maintenance fee?
The deactivation and maintenance fees are to cover system maintenance and
administration cost.
7.
Why TNGSB imposes a maintenance fee once every six months?
This is to urge customers to quickly visit our counter to claim the
unutilised card balance (subject to the terms and conditions
<http://www.touchngo.com.my/WhatTNG_ > ).card_TNG_ 2_I.html
Regard
Arifin
From: Arifin Mohd Sidin
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:42 PM
To: 'automobil@yahoogroups.com '
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10
tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Hide id, tok mod
Bukan setakat boleh pakai 10 tahun je, kalau xde transaksi selama 3 bulan
direct pun kad tu dah xleh nak pakai…
Kena tukar baru…
Kalau kes kad TnG yg ada dalam sekali myKad tu mcmana pulak nanti?
Regard
Arifin
From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
Of Nazri Ahtar
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:33 PM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10
tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Salam,
Isteri saya seorang pengguna tetap touch n go. alhamdulllillah, sepanjang
dia belajar sambil bekerja, tiap2 bulan dia dapat 20% rebate dari PLUS.
malah, sebelum dapat rebate, dia terlebih dahulu akan tahu berapa jumlah
rebate yg akan dapat melalui internet.
apa yang dilakukan, hanyalah mendaftarkan kad touch n go secara online.
mungkin kita pun boleh buat perkara yg sama, bukan ?
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com >
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun
guna kena beli kad baru
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 4:25 PM
itu adalah sangkaan yg baik.... namun hakikat setakat ni aku tengok
samajer...takde perubahan yg mewajarkan...kalau betul kenapa TnG tak explain
kpd pengguna, ni sonyap jor...duit jumping pun sonyap, mana tak public
mushkil ? buatlah online act TnG2u.com.my boleh kita semak act tu..betulka
depa kira..ada transparency ......baru2 aku tengok tol sg besi sampai 3
lorong Smart tag, 3 lorong Tng dan cuma 2 lorong tunai....buat 2 lorong
dahla,,sedekah kat tunai lagi 2 lorong jadi 4 lorong...kesian aku tengok
beratur panjang tu...dg baby, mak baby..lagi2 bapak baby....walaupun aku
pakai Smtag...lagi sekali ..apa jadi dg promotion depa ni ttg Smtag dan TnG
?
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@...> wrote:
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> Salam,
> mungkin diaorang nak upgrade cip dalam tu. dari 128bit kepada 256bit ke
(contoh la). boleh letak encryption yg lebih bagus, data yg lebih besar,
protection yg lebih baik. mungkin lepas ini diaorang nak upgrade service,
guna smart tag tanpa perlu lalu tol booth, dan bermacam2 lagi teknologi baru
yg mungkin tak terpikir (apatah lagi tersenarai dalam senarai pendek saya
ini)
> ambil contoh astro dulu la. diaorang tukar card sebab ada orang boleh hack
card, dan boleh open semua channel tanpa perlu subscribe ke astro. sebab
kedua, diaorang upgrade channel, jadi storage dalam card perlu lebih besar.
ketiga, diaorang dah fikir pasal astro beyond sebelum diaorang promo.
> jadi investment RM10 untuk upgrade ke ciri2 yg lebih bagus, saya tak
kisah.
> sekian pandangan saya.
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> rgds,Nazri Ahtar
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> --- On Tue, 10/5/10, bwasi <bwasi@...> wrote:
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> From: bwasi <bwasi@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun
guna kena beli kad baru
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
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tu utk apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos
penyelenggaraan data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah
sangat-sangat patut kalau kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol
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> > From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@]
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> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
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> > To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
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and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may
experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is
done this year.
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this year.
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cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per
year in order to use this facilities.
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service centers along the highways.
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> > You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at
Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
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> > By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83
Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
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> > Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch
'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
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> > Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited
from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and
will continue to benefit.
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> > Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance
which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch
'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect
over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
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> > Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and
banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is
free.
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> > The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the
company already benefit from the deposit collected!
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> > Sumber :
http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a-
daylight-robbery.html
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> > --- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@ <hide@> wrote:
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> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go
card
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> > To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >,
"zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
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> > Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
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> > Pls hide my Id,
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> > aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti
sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk
bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa
kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant
kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan
display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg
ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh
assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene
komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
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:: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@]
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> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
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> > To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
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> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go
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> > Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
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<http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
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<http://3.bp.blogspot. com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s
400/main_plus.jpg>
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> >
>
> >
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> > Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu
jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG
hangpa.
>
> >
>
> > Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad
TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya
Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
>
> >
>
> > Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku
kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi
orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang
dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang
seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
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> >
>
> > Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan
sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada
resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
>
> >
>
> > Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa
sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa
rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu
lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
>
> >
>
> > Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang
ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
>
> >
>
- 1j.
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "hide ID" hide ID hisyam_ahmad
Tue Oct 5, 2010 3:01 am (PDT)
Pls hide ID,
Salam - saya setuju dgn bro Nazri. Tapi berbalik kpd soalan Encik bwasi, bila kena tukar setiap 10 tahun lah kita boleh kata RM1 untuk setahun... maksudnya RM10 tu memang bajet utk kos guna selama 10 tahun.. kalau tak perlu tukar kad selepas 10 tahun, mungkin PLUS akan charge RM30 bila mula2 buat kad sebab akan consider kos penggunaan selama 30 tahun tanpa menukar kad..
Wallahua'lam
Hisyam Ahmad
_____
From: bashah [mailto:bwasi@yahoo.com ]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:25 PM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
itu adalah sangkaan yg baik.... namun hakikat setakat ni aku tengok samajer...takde perubahan yg mewajarkan...kalau betul kenapa TnG tak explain kpd pengguna, ni sonyap jor...duit jumping pun sonyap, mana tak public mushkil ? buatlah online act TnG2u.com.my boleh kita semak act tu..betulka depa kira..ada transparency ......baru2 aku tengok tol sg besi sampai 3 lorong Smart tag, 3 lorong Tng dan cuma 2 lorong tunai....buat 2 lorong dahla,,sedekah kat tunai lagi 2 lorong jadi 4 lorong...kesian aku tengok beratur panjang tu...dg baby, mak baby..lagi2 bapak baby....walaupun aku pakai Smtag...lagi sekali ..apa jadi dg promotion depa ni ttg Smtag dan TnG ?
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com> , Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@ ...> wrote:
>
> Salam,
> mungkin diaorang nak upgrade cip dalam tu. dari 128bit kepada 256bit ke (contoh la). boleh letak encryption yg lebih bagus, data yg lebih besar, protection yg lebih baik. mungkin lepas ini diaorang nak upgrade service, guna smart tag tanpa perlu lalu tol booth, dan bermacam2 lagi teknologi baru yg mungkin tak terpikir (apatah lagi tersenarai dalam senarai pendek saya ini)
> ambil contoh astro dulu la. diaorang tukar card sebab ada orang boleh hack card, dan boleh open semua channel tanpa perlu subscribe ke astro. sebab kedua, diaorang upgrade channel, jadi storage dalam card perlu lebih besar. ketiga, diaorang dah fikir pasal astro beyond sebelum diaorang promo.
> jadi investment RM10 untuk upgrade ke ciri2 yg lebih bagus, saya tak kisah.
> sekian pandangan saya.
>
> rgds,Nazri Ahtar
>
> --- On Tue, 10/5/10, bwasi <bwasi@...> wrote:
>
> From: bwasi <bwasi@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:19 PM
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> Ok, tapi kalau kad tak rosak , kenapa perlu tukar ?
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> mat salleh cakap """If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
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> --- In automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com> , hide ID wrote:
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> > Mintak hide ID, tokmod..
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> > Saya bukanlah pro mana2 pihak tetapi melihat dari sudut rasional secara teknikal.
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> > Adakah RM10 untuk 10 tahun menjadi satu isu besar? Cuba kita lihat RM10 tu utk apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos penyelenggaraan data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah sangat-sangat patut kalau kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol tunai... janganla melihat dengan simple math sebab life is not that simple..
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> > Kalau iya pun ada profit, itu kan bisnes. Bisnes apa yg tak mahu profit.. hehehe...
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> > Hisyam Ahmad
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> > _____
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> >
>
> > From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@]
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
>
> > To: automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com>
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> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
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> > Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
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> > lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
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> > Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery <http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
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> > Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
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> > How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
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> > Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
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> > Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10 year lifespan only!
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> > Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
>
> >
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> > It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this year.
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> > You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10 and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order to use this facilities.
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> >
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> > Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service centers along the highways.
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> >
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> > You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch 'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
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> >
>
> > By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
>
> >
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> > Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go card to replace the one they are currently holding?
>
> >
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> > Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will continue to benefit.
>
> >
>
> > Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000 interest free in term of interest!
>
> >
>
> > Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks, a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
>
> >
>
> > The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company already benefit from the deposit collected!
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Sumber : http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
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> >
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> >
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> > --- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@ <hide@> wrote:
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> > From: hide@ <hide@>
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> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
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> > To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com> " <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com> >, "zzxrenaultmalaysia " <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. <mailto:renaultmalacom ysia%40yahoogrou ps.com> >
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> > Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
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> > Pls hide my Id,
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> > aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
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> > _____
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> > From: automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com> [automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups. com> ] On Behalf Of :: eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@]
>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
>
> > To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
>
> > Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: Rafi
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> > From: siti
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@]
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> > From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@]
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> > Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
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> > Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go <http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
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> >
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> > <http://3.bp.blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
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> >
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> >
>
> > Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
>
> >
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> > Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
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> >
>
> > Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
>
> >
>
> > Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
>
> >
>
> > Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi mahkamah beb.
>
> >
>
> > Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
>
> >
>
- 1k.
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Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna kena beli kad baru
Posted by: "MikaeL" mykeus2001@yahoo.com
Tue Oct 5, 2010 3:02 am (PDT)
Maybe dia takut rosak time2 peak hour tengah beratur 2-3 kilometer..time2 dok
bratur tengok2 nun kat depan ada plak yang rosak kad TnG..hehe..parah..nak
kedepan tak boleh..ke blakang pon tak boleh..logiknya..setiap benda ada had
umurnya. sampai satu masa kena tukar..dan untuk 10 tahun punya masa..agak
panjang tu.
RM10 punya harga. Saya rasa kalau kat malaysia ni kalau free, semua pun nak
ambil kesempatan, calar2 sket pun nak tukar..alaaa..benda free..hehe.. kalau
benda kita bayar ni niasanya kita pun cuba nak panjangkan jangka hayat dia.. Ni
kan bisnes setiap sen pun kira..Agaknya kalau saya pun tokei TnG..mau satu kad
rm20..hahaha..nak untung lebih..Ni cuma pendapat saya jer..
_____________________ _________ __
From: bwasi <bwasi@yahoo.com >
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:19:01 PM
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna
kena beli kad baru
Ok, tapi kalau kad tak rosak , kenapa perlu tukar ?
mat salleh cakap """If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com , hide ID wrote:
>
> Mintak hide ID, tokmod..
>
>
>
> Saya bukanlah pro mana2 pihak tetapi melihat dari sudut rasional secara
>teknikal.
>
>
>
> Adakah RM10 untuk 10 tahun menjadi satu isu besar? Cuba kita lihat RM10 tu utk
>apa... Berapa kos pengeluaran kad dan chip? Bagaimana dengan kos penyelenggaraan
>data? RM1 utk 1 kad dalam masa setahun bg saya adalah sangat-sangat patut kalau
>kita compare dgn sakit hati org yg beratur ditol tunai... janganla melihat
>dengan simple math sebab life is not that simple..
>
>
>
> Kalau iya pun ada profit, itu kan bisnes. Bisnes apa yg tak mahu profit..
>hehehe...
>
>
>
> Hisyam Ahmad
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syahril Riz [mailto:Syahril_riz@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:57 AM
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: pasal Touch N go lagi, lepas 10 tahun guna
>kena beli kad baru
>
>
>
> Ni 1 lagi kes Touch N Go..
>
>
>
> lepas 10 tahun guna, kena beli kad baru.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Touch n Go Renewal Fee Is Too High And Is A Daylight Robbery
><http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ >touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do You Use Touch 'n Go Card?
>
>
> How Often Do You Reload Your Card?
>
>
> Have You Hold The Same Touch 'n Go Card Over Eight Years?
>
>
>
>
> Do you also aware that your Touch 'n Go Card only valid for maximum up to 10
>year lifespan only!
>
> Therefore, for those who has bought the Touch 'n Go Card between 1997 and
>August 2000, were expired. It will fail to function and you may experience
>difficulties when passing through a toll plaza if no renewal is done this year.
>
> It is estimated over 283,000 Touch 'n Go cardholders will be expired this
year.
>
>
>
> You need to renew the Touch 'n Go card by purchasing a new card which cost RM10
>and it will last for 10 years as well. Therefore, it cost RM1 per year in order
>to use this facilities.
>
> Renewal can be done at any Touch 'n Go service hub or at the customer service
>centers along the highways.
>
> You may check your also check when your Touch 'n Go card expiry date at Touch
>'n Go web site or call Touch 'n Go Careline Centre at 03-7628 5115.
>
> By doing a simple Math, Touch 'n Go can easily collected up to RM2.83 Million
>in profit at the expenses of the cardholders for the renewal!
>
> Why must cardholders force to paid a fee of RM10 to purchase a new Touch 'n Go
>card to replace the one they are currently holding?
>
> Touch 'n Go operator already enjoy this monopoly business and benefited from
>interest free deposit collected from million motorist previously and will
>continue to benefit.
>
> Let assume each of the 283,000 Touch 'n Go contain average RM10 balance which
>is very conservation figure and never take into all the current Touch 'n Go card
>in the circulation. Every month Touch 'n Go operator will collect over RM4,000
>interest free in term of interest!
>
> Plus if you reload your Touch 'n Go card at Petronas petrol station and banks,
>a service charge RM.50 is incur. Reload at LRT and Plus Booth is free.
>
> The reload and renewal fee for Touch 'n Go card should free as the company
>already benefit from the deposit collected!
>
>
>
> Sumber :
>http://www.alantanblog.com/tips/ touch-n-go- renewal-fee- is-too-high- and-is-a- daylight- robbery.html
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/2/10, hide@... <hide@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: hide@... <hide@...>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
> To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >,
>"zzxrenaultmalaysia" <renaultmalaysia@ yahoogroups. >com
> Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 5:24 PM
>
>
>
> Pls hide my Id,
>
>
>
> aku pun penah terkena jugak..aku pki smart tag..aku perasan masa cuti sekolah
>hari tu..aku kerugian dlm rm8.40..tp aku diam kn jer sbb malas nk bising2..itu
>yg aku perasan...yg aku tk perasan ntah dh berapa kali..rupa2nya ada org lain
>pun kene jugak..so skrg ni..aku pasang assistant kt sblh aku utk catit
>manual..so raya baru2 ni aku dh tk percaya ngan display kt smart tag tu or
>display kt plaza tol..so aku pakai assistant yg ada kt sblh...so
>alhamdulillah...bila smpi kl semula..baki yg dicatit oleh assistant aku tu sama
>dgn yg tercatit di kad TnG aku..kalau tk sama aku kene komplen jugak..mana leh
>beb kalau dua kali main kebas je secara percuma..
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of ::
>eSpAcE 9808 :: [rienacom@...]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:52 PM
> To: zzxrenaultmalaysia
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Rafi
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: siti
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norhayana [mailto:gpa@...]
>
>
>
> From: Maznan, Idayu [mailto:Idayu.Maznan@.. .]
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Nasihat dari blogger - Touch and Go card
>
>
>
> Berhati-hati dengan Touch n Go
><http://biaqpila.blogspot. >com/2010/ 03/berhati- hati-dengan- touch-n-go. html
>
><http://3.bp.blogspot. >com/_5IDzSKwnDb8 /SrCk5hW22GI/ AAAAAAAAJso/ E_SenHw0sQE/ s400/main_ plus.jpg
>>
>
>
> Rupa-rupanya kad Touch n Go (TnG) pun tak boleh diharap.Kaki tipu jugak.Oleh
>itu,hangpa dinasihatkan supaya berhati-hati dengan baki kad TnG hangpa.
>
> Aku sendiri dah terkena beb! Masa keluar dari tol Jalan Duta baki kad TnG aku
>ada RM92.90,tapi bila melalui sebuah lagi tol terbuka di Lebuhraya Duke yang
>berharga RM2.00, baki kad telah menjadi RM74.30.
>
> Ini bermakna aku telah dicaj RM18.60 untuk tol yang berharga RM2.00. Aku
>kerugian RM16.60.Itu baru aku sorang yang perasan terkena.Macamana pula bagi
>orang lain yang tak ambik pot dengan baki kad masing-masing? Kalau sorang dia
>tipu seringgit, cuba hangpa congak kalau 5 juta pengguna dia tipu sorang
>seringgit.Buta- buta saja...
>
> Aku pun selama ni tak ambik pot dengan baki kad,hari tu boleh perasan sebab
>baru top up sebelum masuk tol Juru,sebab tu la senang detect pasai ada resit top
>up tu lagi kat dalam poket.
>
> Kes ni,aku dah pi buat report kat kaunter TnG,dia kata dalam masa sebulan dia
>akan bayar balik duit yang terlebih potong tu.Sempat la depa rolling duit tu
>dulu...aku kasi can la kali ni.Lain kali kalau kena tipu lagi,aku nekad bawak pi
>mahkamah beb.
>
> Jadi berhati-hatilah kerana penyangak ada di mana-mana saja sekarang ni.Jangan
>terlalu mempercayai sistem buatan manusia.
>
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