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Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:57 am (PST) . Posted by:

"-::eSpAcE9808::-" rienacom

Disertakan artikel yang ada kat saya sebagai panduan.

How to Check ABS Sensors

By braniac

ABS Brakes

When you are driving and you get the "Check Brakes" light you may get worried. It may be a big problem or a simple ABS sensor problem. You should fist check ABS sensors yourself before paying a mechanic hundreds to do a simple car maintenance job. Keeping your anti-lock brakes in great shape is crucial for your safety.

Instructions

1.

o 1 Read your car manual to find the location of your ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) sensor. On most vehicles it is located above the brake pad. The ABS sensor is a small cylinder with a cord protruding out the top of it. Remove your wheel to get at it easily.

o

o 2 Pull the cord from the top of the ABS sensor and then unscrew the ABS sensor from the brake housing.

o

o 3 Wipe the abs sensor off with a rag dampened with brake cleaner fluid.

o

o 4 Read in your car manual for the ohm reading your ABS sensor should have. Most are 50 ohms. Place the black and red tester leads from the ohm meter on the separate contact points in the ABS sensor plug (where the cord was connected on top of the ABS sensor). It doesn't matter which color lead from the ohm tester you have on each contact point in the ABS sensor plug area. The meter should read near the required ohms (50 ohms) for your vehicle, but if it doesn't you will need to replace the ABS sensor with a new one.

How to Use an Ohm Meter to Check the ABS Sensor

By Carlos Mano, eHow Contributor

It is easy to tell if your ABS sensor is bad.

When the brake light comes on, most people go to the mechanic. Nobody wants the brakes to fail. If you have ABS, the fault is often the ABS sensor. This sensor tells the braking system how fast the wheels are spinning--and the braking system uses this information to come between you and the brakes when you are doing something that is going to lock them up. The sensor is easy to find and easy to check, and you can buy one at the auto supply store for a few bucks. With a little effort you might save hundreds of dollars.

Instructions

o 1 Look in your car manual to see what the resistance is on tour Anti-locking Breaking System (ABS) sensor. It is 50 ohms on most cars. If you have ABS on the front wheels only you will be checking the sensors for the front wheels only. If you have ABS on all four wheels you will be doing this for all four wheels. Consulting the manual will tell you which arrangement you have. Unfortunately, you will have to replace the wheel and lower it each time. The brake light does not indicate which sensor is causing the problem. Do not stop checking if you find a bad one--you might as well check them all.

o

o 2 Jack up the wheel you are checking and take off the wheel. The ABS sensor is a little canister with a wire coming out of it. Disconnect the wire and unscrew the canister. You can clean it off with a rag with a little brake cleaner fluid.

o

o 3 If you are using a multimeter, you should select the range that will put the needle (for the projected reading) in the middle of the scale. If the range setting is too low, the meter will peg for most readings, and if the range setting is too high the needle will barely move for a correct reading. Zero out the ohmmeter. This means holding the meter leads firmly together with one hand and turning the zero adjust knob until the meter reads exactly zero. Now put the leads on the pins of the ABS sensor and read the resistance. It should be very close (within 10 percent) to the value given in the manual--if not, it is bad and should be replaced.


How To Clean Your ABS Wheel Sensor

By Matthew Wright, About.com Guide

Getting Ready For an ABS Sensor Clean Up

If your ABS sensor looks like this, you might have problems.

photo by Wild Out White GSR

There are many things that can cause your ABS light to come on. Some are serious, so you should never just ignore the light. But there are times when the light comes on, but can be met with a simple solution. For instance, a dirty ABS wheel sensor can cause the system to trigger the ABS light during your ABS computer's self evaluation cycle. You'll be shocked when you see how much road gunk can accumulate on this very important sensor. This sensor is also used in some traction control systems, so if you've got a traction control, or anti-skid warning illuminated you might find that cleaning the ABS sensors will remedy this, as well.

Even if your ABS light hasn't made an appearance, it's a good idea to clean the sensors. A good time to do it would be during brake pad replacement when you have the wheels off anyway. At this point it's a 10-minute job rather than an hour or two.

What You'll Need:

a.. Ratchet wrench and sockets
b.. Ratchet extension
c.. Jack
d.. Jack stands
e.. A strong rag
Get your stuff together and you're ready to start. A clean work area really helps you stay organized, keep track of tools and parts, and avoid making costly mistakes. Remember, it's never safe to work on a car supported by a jack, use jack stands!

Removing the Wheel and Safely Supporting the Vehicle

Be sure to properly support your vehicle on jack stands.

photo by Matt Wright, 2007

Begin by loosening your wheel lugs (always do this while the car is still on the ground - for safety and for better leverage), then jack the front of the car up and rest it securely on jack stands. Always be sure your car is supported securely. A wobbly car or truck can lead to a serious injury or damage to the vehicle. There's no reason to take chances when you're working underneath an elevated car. With the car safe, remove the wheel lugs and take the front wheels off.

With the wheel off, turn the steering wheel all the way in, opposite the side your working on. For example if you're working on the passenger side, turn the wheel all the way toward the driver's side. This will give you easier access to the ABS parts both visually and in terms of your reach.

Remove the Wheel Sensor

Remove the bolts securing the ABS sensor, then free the sensor.

photo by Wild Out White GSR

Locate the ABS wheel sensor. Remove the bolts that attach it to the rest of the suspension. You may also need to remove a few bolts that attach the wiring to the car's frame or suspension, to pull the sensor away from the vehicle for cleaning. Follow the line and/or wiring harness to see if there are more bolts. Remember not to force it or pull too hard. Then along the line there's another two 10mm bolts that need to be removed, just follow the ABS sensor line to get at them. The initial bolts on this application are pictured below. Different vehicles are set up differently, but the idea is the same in most cases. The important thing to remember is never force anything to move. If you're removed all of the bolts and other attachment stuff you should be able to pull the sensor away with no effort at all.

Cleaning the ABS Sensor

Carefully clean the ABS sensor.

photo by Wild Out White GSR

With the sensor free, take your rag and wipe the sensor until its clean. I prefer not to use any chemicals on the sensor to avoid potential problems. If you need to, use mild soapy solution and rinse well. The ABS sensors are precision instruments in a crude environment. They're tough enough to hang off the brakes of a very fast moving vehicle, but one good knock and they could be damaged beyond repair. Keep this in mind when working with these sensors, They're tough, but a little car taken while you service the antilock braking system along the way can save you from another costly repair added to the brake service.

To finish up the job, reinstall the sensor in the same manner it was removed, taking care to install the sensors in exactly the same manner as they were removed. Don't skip the step of reattaching the line or wiring to those mounting points. They may seem like they don't matter, but it can get very expensive if you make a bad decision.

*Don't be discouraged if your ABS light doesn't turn off right away. It may take up to a few days for the system to reanalyze itself and reset fully.

ABS Speed Sensor Maintenance

A clean sensor is a happy sensor

Phil Coconis / autoMedia.com

One of the most common omissions in maintaining a modern Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) is checking out the speed sensors. These sensors are often located at each wheel hub/rotor on four-wheel disc systems. Alternatively, on rear-drum applications, you'll usually find them mounted on the differential housing. Whatever their location, they supply information regarding wheel speed to the ABS computer. Under braking, if wheel speeds are not equal, indicating wheel lockup, the computer modulates the anti-lock feature until the speeds are equal again.

Sensor Types

The sensors function on the principle of magnetic induction. In this case, the sensor consists of a magnet mounted in close proximity to a notched "reference ring" that spins at wheel speed causing a "sine wave" (a low-voltage rhythmic pulse) to be generated by the magnet. The computer reads this signal as wheel speed. There are basically two types of sensor/ring designs: "exposed" and "concealed." In the exposed design, the sensor and ring are, not surprisingly, exposed to the elements, most notably metallic brake dust. That's important because, as explained, the sensors are magnets that attract metallic media, and the reference rings have ridges or slots, which can become clogged with this same road grime.

Of course, at some point this process will affect the operation of the system and cause the ABS Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) to illuminate, indicating that the anti-lock feature is not armed—not desirable and not as safe either. In contrast, on the concealed design, buildup of road grime is not really an issue, so it will probably not need to be cleaned and serviced nearly as regularly as the exposed design. Even though the concealed type is subject to less contamination, it wouldn't hurt to inspect it when servicing wheel bearings or during differential fluid service (depending on the location of the sensor). Any accumulation of debris is serious, as it would likely indicate a deterioration of some normally lubricated component.

How do you determine which type of sensor is on your vehicle? If possible, remove the brake rotor and inspect the backside (the one closest to the center of the vehicle), and the backing plate/splash shield assembly (attached to the steering knuckle). If the sensor is mounted somewhere on the backing plate/splash shield, and the reference ring is visibly outside of the wheel bearing grease seal, you have the exposed type.

On FWD/4WD captive-rotor models, you must remove the sensor retaining bolt from the backside of the backing plate/splash shield. Then remove the sensor from it's mounting bore, and inspect for media presence on the sensor tip, and with a flashlight through the mounting bore to view the reference ring. Exposed sensor/ring types should be serviced at every brake pad replacement at the minimum, or every 30,000 miles. The concealed type would not need regular inspection, except when servicing an adjacent component, as noted above.

Cleaning

For cleaning, once you've removed the rotor (or sensor), you're already half of the way there. Simply wipe off the grime with a degreaser-spritzed shop towel. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to blow the debris off with compressed air! Static voltage can be generated, and then conducted to the ABS computer, which can damage it. Of course, you could disconnect the sensor to prevent this from happening, but why complicate things?

To clean the reference ring, use a small non-metallic brush and a squirt of degreaser. Make sure to go all of the way around the ring, and be thorough about it. If the rotor has been removed from the vehicle, its okay to carefully blow-dry the ring with compressed air. The ring does not need to be hospital-clean, just free of major debris and metal media, especially in the "troughs."

On captive rotor systems, cleaning the sensor is the same, but you'll have to work through its mounting hole to clean the reference ring, which will take some patience and, of course, a brush small enough to fit easily through the hole. It's also okay to use carefully applied compressed air to the ring as you turn the rotor/hub assembly. Now you can finish the rest of your vehicle's brake work, with the comfort of knowing that you've attended to a very important—and often neglected—aspect of your braking system.

----- Original Message -----
From: Nazri Ahtar
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala

sensor abs kat tayar tu kat mana ? ada gambar ? bleh share ?
lokasi sensor abs utk semua kereta lebih kurang sama je kot ?

rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

----------------------------------------------------------
From: -::eSpAcE9808::- <rienacom@yahoo.com.sg>
To: zzxautomobil <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala


Assalam.

Memang betul tu lampu sensor ABS, samada dah rosak atau kotor. Cuba buka tayar dan
bersihkan sensor itu. Kalau ada rezeki, ia ok. Kalau tak, kena tukarlah. Kalau Perdana V6,
mungkin dalam RM150-RM300 aje kot, saya tak pasti.

Bahaya tu, tak pasti. Cuma takut kalau ABS tak function aje, merbahaya semasa brek
emergency. Betulkan kalau salah....

----- Original Message -----
From: bashah
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala

keta kawan aku volvo - lampu brake failure nyala, memang terus tak boleh jalan,... kena pakai tow truck..
ini membuktikan V6 ni guna teknolgi canggih, benda dah rosak pun boleh jalan dg selamat ..hehe..jgn mare..

----------------------------------------------------------
From: Mohd Syaril Matsali <syaril.matsali@my.panasonic.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala

ABS sensor... keta V6 saya dok menyala je x padam2, check pakai NDT pun xleh erase.
pomen cakap ABS sensor dh rosak, benda tu boleh ditukar... tapi brp harga x pasti, tapi xde effect pape la time driving...
klu salah betulkan la ye....

From: fuzzyinn@yahoo.com
To: "Automobil&quot; <automobil@yahoogroups.com>,
Date: 03/05/2013 01:54 PM
Subject: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala
Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com

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Apa yg menyebabkan lampu yg ada gambar yg menunjukkan gambar kereta dijalan yg licin itu duk menyala .. Kereta perdana v6 ..Bukan selalu nyala ..kadang2 padam kadang2 duk nyala ..ikut sedap rasa dia jer ..siapa yg pernah ada pengalaman ..
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti

Thanks bro.
 
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

________________________________
From: -::eSpAcE9808::- <rienacom@yahoo.com.sg>
To: zzxautomobil <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:57 PM
Subject: Fw: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala


 

Disertakan artikel yang ada kat
saya sebagai panduan.
 
How
to Check ABS Sensors
By
braniac
 ABS
Brakes
When
you are driving and you get the "Check Brakes" light you may get worried. It may
be a big problem or a simple ABS sensor problem. You should fist check ABS
sensors yourself before paying a mechanic hundreds to do a simple car
maintenance job. Keeping your anti-lock brakes in great shape is crucial for
your safety.
Instructions
1.      
o    1
Read your car manual to find the location of your ABS (Anti-lock Braking System)
sensor. On most vehicles it is located above the brake pad. The ABS sensor is a
small cylinder with a cord protruding out the top of it. Remove your wheel to
get at it easily.
o     
o    2
Pull the cord from the top of the ABS sensor and then unscrew the ABS sensor
from the brake housing.
o     
o    3
Wipe the abs sensor off with a rag dampened with brake cleaner
fluid.
o     
o    4
Read in your car manual for the ohm reading your ABS sensor should have. Most
are 50 ohms. Place the black and red tester leads from the ohm meter on the
separate contact points in the ABS sensor plug (where the cord was connected on
top of the ABS sensor). It doesn't matter which color lead from the ohm tester
you have on each contact point in the ABS sensor plug area. The meter should
read near the required ohms (50 ohms) for your vehicle, but if it doesn't you
will need to replace the ABS sensor with a new one.

How
to Use an Ohm Meter to Check the ABS Sensor
By
Carlos Mano,
eHow Contributor
 
It
is easy to tell if your ABS sensor is bad.
 
When the brake light comes on, most people go to the mechanic.
Nobody wants the brakes to fail. If you have ABS, the fault is often the ABS
sensor. This sensor tells the braking system how fast the wheels are
spinning--and the braking system uses this information to come between you and
the brakes when you are doing something that is going to lock them up. The
sensor is easy to find and easy to check, and you can buy one at the auto supply
store for a few bucks. With a little effort you might save hundreds of dollars.
Instructions
o    1
Look in your car manual to see what the resistance is on tour Anti-locking
Breaking System (ABS) sensor. It is 50 ohms on most cars. If you have ABS on the
front wheels only you will be checking the sensors for the front wheels only. If
you have ABS on all four wheels you will be doing this for all four wheels.
Consulting the manual will tell you which arrangement you have. Unfortunately,
you will have to replace the wheel and lower it each time. The brake light does
not indicate which sensor is causing the problem. Do not stop checking if you
find a bad one--you might as well check them all.
o     
o    2
Jack up the wheel you are checking and take off the wheel. The ABS sensor is a
little canister with a wire coming out of it. Disconnect the wire and unscrew
the canister. You can clean it off with a rag with a little brake cleaner fluid.
o     
o    3 If you are using a multimeter, you should select the range that
will put the needle (for the projected reading) in the middle of the scale. If
the range setting is too low, the meter will peg for most readings, and if the
range setting is too high the needle will barely move for a correct reading.
Zero out the ohmmeter. This means holding the meter leads firmly together with
one hand and turning the zero adjust knob until the meter reads exactly zero.
Now put the leads on the pins of the ABS sensor and read the resistance. It
should be very close (within 10 percent) to the value given in the manual--if
not, it is bad and should be replaced.
 
How
To Clean Your ABS Wheel Sensor
By Matthew Wright, About.com Guide
Getting
Ready For an ABS Sensor Clean Up
 
If your ABS sensor looks like this, you might have
problems.
photo
by Wild Out White GSR
 
There are many things that can cause your ABS light to come on.
Some are serious, so you should never just ignore the light. But there are times
when the light comes on, but can be met with a simple solution. For instance, a
dirty ABS wheel sensor can cause the system to trigger the ABS light during your
ABS computer's self evaluation cycle. You'll be shocked when you see how much
road gunk can accumulate on this very important sensor. This sensor is also used
in some traction control systems, so if you've got a traction control, or
anti-skid warning illuminated you might find that cleaning the ABS sensors will
remedy this, as well.
Even if your ABS light hasn't made an appearance, it's a good idea
to clean the sensors. A good time to do it would be during brake pad
replacementwhen you have the wheels off
anyway. At this point it's a 10-minute job rather than an hour or two.
What You'll Need:
* Ratchet wrenchand sockets
* Ratchet extension
* Jack
* Jack stands
* A strong rag
Get your stuff together and you're ready to start. A clean work
area really helps you stay organized, keep track of tools and parts, and avoid
making costly mistakes. Remember, it's never safe to work on a car supported by
a jack, use jack stands!
Removing the Wheel and Safely Supporting
the Vehicle
 
Be sure to properly support your vehicle on jack
stands.
photo
by Matt Wright, 2007
 
Begin by loosening your wheel lugs (always do this while the car
is still on the ground - for safety and for better leverage), then jack the
front of the car up and rest it securely on jack stands. Always be sure your car
is supported
securely. A wobbly car or truck can lead
to a serious injury or damage to the vehicle. There's no reason to take chances
when you're working underneath an elevated car. With the car safe, remove the
wheel lugs and take the front wheels off.
With the wheel off, turn the steering wheel all the way in,
opposite the side your working on. For example if you're working on the
passenger side, turn the wheel all the way toward the driver's side. This will
give you easier access to the ABS parts both visually and in terms of your
reach.
Remove the
Wheel Sensor
 
Remove the bolts securing the ABS sensor, then free the
sensor.
photo
by Wild Out White GSR
 
Locate
the ABS wheel sensor. Remove the bolts that attach it to the rest of the
suspension. You may also need to remove a few bolts that attach the wiring to
the car's frame or suspension, to pull the sensor away from the vehicle for
cleaning. Follow the line and/or wiring harness to see if there are more bolts.
Remember not to force it or pull too hard. Then along the line there's another
two 10mm bolts that need to be removed, just follow the ABS sensor line to get
at them. The initial bolts on this application are pictured below. Different
vehicles are set up differently, but the idea is the same in most cases. The
important thing to remember is never force anything to move. If you're removed
all of the bolts and other attachment stuff you should be able to pull the
sensor away with no effort at all.
 
Cleaning the ABS Sensor
 
Carefully
clean the ABS sensor.
photo
by Wild Out White GSR
 
With the sensor free, take your rag and wipe the sensor until its
clean. I prefer not to use any chemicals on the sensor to avoid potential
problems. If you need to, use mild soapy solution and rinse well. The ABS
sensors are precision instruments in a crude environment. They're tough enough
to hang off the brakes of a very fast moving vehicle, but one good knock and
they could be damaged beyond repair. Keep this in mind when working with these
sensors, They're tough, but a little car taken while you service the antilock
braking system along the way can save you from another costly repair added to
the brake service.
To finish up the job, reinstall the sensor in the same manner it
was removed, taking care to install the sensors in exactly the same manner as
they were removed. Don't skip the step of reattaching the line or wiring to
those mounting points. They may seem like they don't matter, but it can get very
expensive if you make a bad decision.
*Don't be discouraged if your ABS light doesn't turn off right
away. It may take up to a few days for the system to reanalyze itself and reset
fully.
 
 
 
ABS
Speed Sensor Maintenance
A clean sensor is a happy sensor
Phil
Coconis / autoMedia.com
One of the most common omissions in maintaining a modern Anti-lock
Brake System (ABS) is checking out the speed sensors. These sensors are often
located at each wheel hub/rotor on four-wheel disc systems. Alternatively, on
rear-drum applications, you'll usually find them mounted on the differential
housing. Whatever their location, they supply information regarding wheel speed
to the ABS computer. Under braking, if wheel speeds are not equal, indicating
wheel lockup, the computer modulates the anti-lock feature until the speeds are
equal again.
Sensor Types
The sensors function on the principle of magnetic induction. In
this case, the sensor consists of a magnet mounted in close proximity to a
notched "reference ring" that spins at wheel speed causing a "sine wave" (a
low-voltage rhythmic pulse) to be generated by the magnet. The computer reads
this signal as wheel speed. There are basically two types of sensor/ring
designs: "exposed" and "concealed." In the exposed design, the sensor and ring
are, not surprisingly, exposed to the elements, most notably metallic brake
dust. That's important because, as explained, the sensors are magnets that
attract metallic media, and the reference rings have ridges or slots, which can
become clogged with this same road grime.
Of course, at some point this process will affect the operation of
the system and cause the ABS Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) to illuminate,
indicating that the anti-lock feature is not armed—not desirable and not as safe
either. In contrast, on the concealed design, buildup of road grime is not
really an issue, so it will probably not need to be cleaned and serviced nearly
as regularly as the exposed design. Even though the concealed type is subject to
less contamination, it wouldn't hurt to inspect it when servicing wheel bearings
or during differential fluid service (depending on the location of the sensor).
Any accumulation of debris is serious, as it would likely indicate a
deterioration of some normally lubricated component.
How do you determine which type of sensor is on your vehicle? If
possible, remove the brake rotor and inspect the backside (the one closest to
the center of the vehicle), and the backing plate/splash shield assembly
(attached to the steering knuckle). If the sensor is mounted somewhere on the
backing plate/splash shield, and the reference ring is visibly outside of the
wheel bearing grease seal, you have the exposed type.
On FWD/4WD captive-rotor models, you must remove the sensor
retaining bolt from the backside of the backing plate/splash shield. Then remove
the sensor from it's mounting bore, and inspect for media presence on the sensor
tip, and with a flashlight through the mounting bore to view the reference ring.
Exposed sensor/ring types should be serviced at every brake pad replacement at
the minimum, or every 30,000 miles. The concealed type would not need regular
inspection, except when servicing an adjacent component, as noted above.
Cleaning
For cleaning, once you've removed the rotor (or sensor), you're
already half of the way there. Simply wipe off the grime with a
degreaser-spritzed shop towel. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to blow
the debris off with compressed air! Static voltage can be generated, and then
conducted to the ABS computer, which can damage it. Of course, you could
disconnect the sensor to prevent this from happening, but why complicate things?
To clean the reference ring, use a small non-metallic brush and a
squirt of degreaser. Make sure to go all of the way around the ring, and be
thorough about it. If the rotor has been removed from the vehicle, its okay to
carefully blow-dry the ring with compressed air. The ring does not need to be
hospital-clean, just free of major debris and metal media, especially in the
"troughs."
On captive rotor systems, cleaning the sensor is the same, but
you'll have to work through its mounting hole to clean the reference ring, which
will take some patience and, of course, a brush small enough to fit easily
through the hole. It's also okay to use carefully applied compressed air to the
ring as you turn the rotor/hub assembly. Now you can finish the rest of your
vehicle's brake work, with the comfort of knowing that you've attended to a very
important—and often neglected—aspect of your braking system.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Nazri Ahtar
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala
 
sensor abs kat tayar tu kat mana ? ada gambar ? bleh share
?
lokasi
sensor abs utk semua kereta lebih kurang sama je kot ?

 
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

________________________________
From: -::eSpAcE9808::- <rienacom@yahoo.com.sg>
To: zzxautomobil <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013
6:56 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala

 

Assalam.
 
Memang betul tu lampu sensor ABS,
samada dah rosak atau kotor. Cuba buka tayar dan
bersihkan sensor itu. Kalau ada
rezeki, ia ok. Kalau tak, kena tukarlah. Kalau Perdana V6,
mungkin dalam RM150-RM300 aje kot,
saya tak pasti.
 
Bahaya tu, tak pasti. Cuma takut
kalau ABS tak function aje, merbahaya semasa brek
emergency. Betulkan kalau
salah....
 
 
-----
Original Message -----
From: bashah
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan
licin duk menyala
 
keta kawan aku volvo - lampu brake failure nyala, memang terus tak boleh
jalan,... kena pakai tow truck..
ini
membuktikan V6 ni guna teknolgi canggih, benda dah rosak pun boleh jalan dg
selamat ..hehe..jgn mare..

________________________________
From: Mohd Syaril Matsali <syaril.matsali@my.panasonic.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013
2:14 PM
Subject: Re:
www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk
menyala

 
ABS sensor... keta V6 saya dok menyala je x
padam2, check pakai NDT pun xleh erase.
pomen cakap ABS sensor dh rosak, benda tu boleh ditukar... tapi
brp harga x pasti, tapi xde effect pape la time driving...
klu salah betulkan la ye....

From:      
 fuzzyinn@yahoo.com
To:        "Automobil&quot; <automobil@yahoogroups.com>,
Date:      
 03/05/2013 01:54 PM
Subject:      
 www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com-  Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala
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 automobil@yahoogroups.com

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Apa yg menyebabkan lampu yg ada gambar yg
menunjukkan gambar kereta dijalan yg licin itu duk menyala .. Kereta perdana v6
..Bukan selalu nyala ..kadang2 padam kadang2 duk nyala ..ikut sedap rasa dia jer
..siapa yg pernah ada pengalaman ..
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:16 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Abdul Hadi Abdullah"

Assalamualaikum Semua,

Keluar dari tajuk.

Ada tak sesiapa yang tahu workshop bumiputra yang buat service aircond van (2 blower).

Terima kasih.

ABDUL HADI HJ ABDULLAH

From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nazri Ahtar
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:22 AM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong

tulah pasal kluar ayat 'i wish...'

kalau tak salah saya, kereta yg tengelam banjir, kalau dalam state enjin mati, flush minyak hitam, servis carburator, dah ok dah.

kalau enjin running, then mati sebab redah banjir, haa....yg ni overhaul. tak de kesian2, sebab minyak hitam dah campur air.

itu orang katalah. tak tau plak pomen2 kata apa.

pengalaman saya, kereta banjir sampai tahap separuh tingkap.... tengelam hampir habis. segala meter, radio, speaker....ahlan wasahlan....

ubatnya, flush minyak hitam, servis kaburator...... enjin elok je lepas tu....sampai la ke body kondem bertahun2 lepas tu.

karpet tukar baru, seat tembak dgn waterjet....huhu.

rgds,

Nazri Ahtar

_____

From: Abdul Rahman bin Johari <arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong

hehehe
terlajak perahu leh undur bro
terlajak klik, dah tersend dah pun
hehehe

ade org kata banjir tu sebab pembangunan di sekitar kaw tu
pembangunan pe tu?
hehehe

tp sayang tul kete2 tu
xde cover insurans kan?
abistu kena overhaul la sume kete tu bro?
ce bagi tips/rekomen servis yg patut bila berlaku begini pada kereta kita
kalau leh, dgn anggaran harga sekali
huhuhu

Nazri Ahtar wrote:

i wish i could take that email back.

sorry kalau offended.

rgds,

Nazri Ahtar

_____

From: Nazri Ahtar <mailto:littlenoti@yahoo.comlittlenoti@yahoo.com>
To: <mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com" <mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com <http://www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com/> - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong

dulu khir toyo bagi penyapu....dia kena sapu.

kalau khalid bagi penyodok....sat lagi dia kena sodok....sebab tu dia tak bagi kot ?

rgds,

Nazri Ahtar

_____

From: bAd mood <mailto:moodysega@hotmail.commoodysega@hotmail.com>
To: <mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com" <mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:50 AM
Subject: RE: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com <http://www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com/> - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong

habislaaa....

dulu khir toyo hari2 suruh pekerja majlis daerah puchong untuk bersihkan longkang.... mesti sekarang khalid lupa nak suruh diaorang bersihkan la tuu....

_____

To: melayucyber@yahoogroups.com
From: rienacom@yahoo.com.sg
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:10:13 +0800
Subject: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com <http://www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com/> - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong



<http://greenboc.blogspot.com/2013/02/bergambar-puchong-dilanda-banjir-teruk.html> Puchong Dilanda Banjir Teruk Semalam

Posted by greenboc

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Gambar banjir teruk di Puchong, Selangor 18 Februari 2013

Nampaknya, bencana banjir kilat yang sebelum ini berlaku di Kelantan, Pahang dan Terengganu telah menyerang negeri Selangor selepas hujan lebat berterusan, tanpa henti. Kejadian banjir kilat berkenaan berpunca daripada kegagalan Majlis Perbandaran Sepang untuk membersihkan sampah yang terkumpul di dalam longkang.

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Ekoran daripada itu, beberapa kawasan di Selangor telah dinaiki air seperti Kg Tengah dan Kg Kenangan di Puchong, serta Kg Baru Hicom dan Desa Kemuning di sempadan Shah Alam dan Klang. Berikut ialah beberapa gambar banjir teruk yang telah di capture oleh rakan-rakan Facebook di sekitar Bandar Puchong.

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sumber: plbgaimacam

comments:

Anonymous said...

Assalammu'alaikum,
Kera jaan bn / umno dan syabas kata Selangor akan kekurangan dan menghadapi masalah air, SEKARANG SIAPA BIJAK DAN LEBIG MENGTAHUI otak-otak kecil jurutera dan penganalisa syabas atau ALLAH yang memberikan mereka SEDIKIT nia' mat berfikir......
KENAPA PUCONG..... KAN ULAMA MUDA BUAT DERAMA KONON ADA PEJUANG ISLAM DAH MASUK GULONGAN MUNAFIK........
MUHASABHLAH........

Tokwan Perak.

XUMNO <http://www.blogger.com/profile/13694811479596585044> said...

Apabila Kerajaan Pusat (UMNO/BN) tidak menjalankan tanggungjawab mengagihkan peruntukan yang WAJIB diberikan kepada kerajaan2 negeri yang diperintah Pakatan, inilah jadinya. Umno/Bn gunakan masaalah banjir sebagai modal politik menghentam kerajaan Pakatan, kemudian buat janji2 bodoh.Lihat saja sendiwara Najib dan Mohyddin di Kelantan, Sg Golok nak di dalamkan, penduduk akan dapat air kelas mineral.

Anonymous said...

tak perlulah nak salahkan majlis daerah yang tak membersihkan sampah... semuanya berpunca dari sikap kita yang suka buang sampah rata-rata. inilah realiti yang kita semua kena ubah. tak perlu nak menuding jari kat sapa-sapa pun

Anonymous said...

Setuju ngan Anon 11.01, ubah sikap kita & jgn lupa ubah BN ke PR diPutrajaya ..he..he..

Ammy Hassan <http://endrahman.wordpress.com/> said...

Semenjak pentadbiran PR ade saja masalah kemudahan dan utiliti di Selangor. Jawapannya tak lain tak bukan akibat sabotaj Pembangkang iaitu UMNO-BN yang "gila kuasa". Pencacai2nya dah diarahkan membuang sampah merata2 supaya berlaku banjir kilat, heh! Saman mereka RM500 sekor!

Banjir kat Puchong pun mau jadi isu politik ke.... umno ohh umno...!!!

Posted by Kedah Lanie

Lori, kereta tersadai akibat banjir kilat di Puchong

Penyelia Operasi Balai Bomba dan Penyelamat Puchong Haswan Wasir berkata satu banjir kilat berlaku di kawasan kompleks membeli belah IOI dan juga turut menenggelamkan sebahagian Lebuh Raya Damansara-Puchong.

Katanya, air naik sehingga 1.5 meter di kawasan persimpangan Bandar Puteri kira-kira jam 5.30 petang tadi yang menyebabkan sebuah bas, dua buah lori dan dua buah kereta mengalami kerosakan.

"Bagaimanapun saya tidak pasti ke dalaman air yang naik di IOI mall kerana tidak mendapat maklumat. Saya juga tidak dapat memastikan jumlah kerosakan di IOI Mall," katanya yang menambah, banjir berkenan surut kira-kira sejam kemudian.
Sementara itu, NGO pro-Umno Gerakan Anti Penyelewengan Selangor (GAPS) menyalahkan pentadbiran Menteri Besar Selangor Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim yang didakwanya tidak menyelenggara saliran longkang, parit dan sungai dengan baik sehingga menyebabkan banjir tersebut.

"Banjir yang melanda IOI puchong pada petang ini adalah sudah dijangkakan. Banjir yang sama pernah menyerang Klang beberapa kali dalam tahun lalu. Banjir yang sama juga pernah melanda Kajang tahun lalu," kata presidennya Hamidzun Khairuddin.

Beliau mendakwa bantuan kerajaan pusat lebih RM350 juta setahun dari peruntukkan Geran Sistem Maklumat Rekod Jalan Raya Malaysia (MARRIS) kepada kerajaan Selangor tetapi "kelekaan Menteri Besar bermain politik setiap hari menjadinya lena dalam buaian politiking yang tak berkesudahan".

Hamidzun mendakwa peruntukan yang sepatutnya dibelanjakan untuk baiki jalan, selenggara parit, longkang dan sungai dibazirkan kepada projek Merakyatkan Ekonomi Selangor yang didakwanya menguntungkan kroni politik PKR, DAP dan PAS.

"Air hak rakyat seperti yang dilaungkan setiap hari oleh MB, adalah air banjir juga milik rakyat ? Mohon MB memberikan jawapan yang pasti," katanya.

----- Original Message -----

From: Mat Rock <mailto:matrock_e1@yahoo.com>

Subject: Banjir kilat landa Puchong

DH LEBIH 10 THN WA DUK KT PUCHONG.. NI 1ST TIME BANJIR BESAR KT LDP DPN IOI MALL..

DLM TV ALASAN.. AIR SG KLANG NAIK.. BUSUT LAA!!!!

SG KLANG DGN IOI MALL.. JARAK 1.5KM..

SG KLANG DGN TOL SUNWAY.. 300M JER..

YG PELIKNYA.. TOL SUNWAY X BANJIR.. KAT IOI MALL LAK BANJIR..

LOGIK KE??

AKUI JELAH YG BANJIR TU DISBBKAN PROJEK LRT...

KIRI KANAN IOI MALL TU NK BUAT STESEN LRT..

BILA DH BUAT PROJEK.. SALIRAN X DIENDAHKAN.. INILAH NATIJAHNYA..

18 Feb 2013 06:36pm

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Banjir kilat yang melanda Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong (LDP) di Puchong.

PUCHONG — Hujan lebat sejak jam 4 petang tadi menyebabkan banjir kilat di sekitar Puchong mengakibatkan kenderaan terperangkap di Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong berhadapan pusat membeli belah, IOI Mall.

Menurut peniaga di pusat membeli-belah terbabit, hujan lebat menyebabkan paras air naik hingga memasuki bahagian bawah IOI Mall.

"Air naik sekitar satu inci didalam Mall, tetapi keadaan kini semakin pulih dan pekerja sedang membersihkan lantai," katanya ketika dihubungi ABN news.

Foto yang dirakam beberapa pengunjung di pusat membeli-belah terbabit turut menunjukkan air naik di kawasan parkir menyebabkan beberapa kenderaan tenggelam.

Selain itu, beberapa kenderaan turut dirakam tenggelam di LDP.

Banjir kilat menyebabkan kesesakan lalulintas di kedua-dua arah iaitu ke Sunway serta Subang Jaya dan Puchong Perdana.

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Rock sokmo.. (jadi rakan FB wa: irwan matrock)

Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:16 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Muaz CK" azz95

Alaikum Salaam

Bro dah try gi depan JPJ Setapak ke? Ada satu kedai aircon di situ, melayu.

Ex-Army rasanya. Dia pakai ketayap.

2013/2/26 Abdul Hadi Abdullah <hadi@mhsaviation.com>

> **
>
>
> Assalamualaikum Semua,****
>
> ** **
>
> Keluar dari tajuk. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Ada tak sesiapa yang tahu workshop bumiputra yang buat service aircond van
> (2 blower).****
>
> ** **
>
> Terima kasih.****
>
> ** **
>
> * *
>
> *ABDUL HADI HJ
> ABDULLAH
> *
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Nazri Ahtar
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:22 AM
> *To:* automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> tulah pasal kluar ayat 'i wish...'****
>
> ** **
>
> kalau tak salah saya, kereta yg tengelam banjir, kalau dalam state enjin
> mati, flush minyak hitam, servis carburator, dah ok dah.****
>
> ** **
>
> kalau enjin running, then mati sebab redah banjir, haa....yg ni overhaul.
> tak de kesian2, sebab minyak hitam dah campur air.****
>
> ** **
>
> itu orang katalah. tak tau plak pomen2 kata apa.****
>
> ** **
>
> pengalaman saya, kereta banjir sampai tahap separuh tingkap.... tengelam
> hampir habis. segala meter, radio, speaker....ahlan wasahlan....****
>
> ** **
>
> ubatnya, flush minyak hitam, servis kaburator...... enjin elok je lepas
> tu....sampai la ke body kondem bertahun2 lepas tu.****
>
> ** **
>
> karpet tukar baru, seat tembak dgn waterjet....huhu.****
>
> ****
>
> rgds,****
>
> Nazri Ahtar****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Abdul Rahman bin Johari <arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my>
> *To:* automobil@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:04 AM
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> hehehe
> terlajak perahu leh undur bro
> terlajak klik, dah tersend dah pun
> hehehe
>
> ade org kata banjir tu sebab pembangunan di sekitar kaw tu
> pembangunan pe tu?
> hehehe
>
> tp sayang tul kete2 tu
> xde cover insurans kan?
> abistu kena overhaul la sume kete tu bro?
> ce bagi tips/rekomen servis yg patut bila berlaku begini pada kereta kita
> kalau leh, dgn anggaran harga sekali
> huhuhu
>
> Nazri Ahtar wrote: ****
>
> i wish i could take that email back.****
>
> sorry kalau offended.****
>
> ****
>
> rgds,****
>
> Nazri Ahtar****
>
> ** **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.comlittlenoti@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
> <automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:57 AM
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> ** **
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> dulu khir toyo bagi penyapu....dia kena sapu.****
>
> kalau khalid bagi penyodok....sat lagi dia kena sodok....sebab tu dia tak
> bagi kot ?****
>
> ****
>
> rgds,****
>
> Nazri Ahtar****
>
> ** **
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>
> *From:* bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail.commoodysega@hotmail.com>
> *To:* "automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
> <automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2013 8:50 AM
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> ****
>
> habislaaa.... ****
>
> dulu khir toyo hari2 suruh pekerja majlis daerah puchong untuk bersihkan
> longkang.... mesti sekarang khalid lupa nak suruh diaorang bersihkan la
> tuu....****
> ------------------------------
>
> To: melayucyber@yahoogroups.com
> From: rienacom@yahoo.com.sg
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:10:13 +0800
> Subject: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Banjir kat Puchong
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> Puchong Dilanda Banjir Teruk Semalam<http://greenboc.blogspot.com/2013/02/bergambar-puchong-dilanda-banjir-teruk.html>
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> ****
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> *G**ambar banjir teruk di Puchong, Selangor 18 Februari 2013**
> *
> Nampaknya, bencana banjir kilat yang sebelum ini berlaku di Kelantan,
> Pahang dan Terengganu telah menyerang negeri Selangor selepas hujan lebat
> berterusan, tanpa henti. Kejadian banjir kilat berkenaan berpunca daripada
> kegagalan Majlis Perbandaran Sepang untuk membersihkan sampah yang
> terkumpul di dalam longkang.****
>
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> ****
>
> Ekoran daripada itu, beberapa kawasan di Selangor telah dinaiki air
> seperti Kg Tengah dan Kg Kenangan di Puchong, serta Kg Baru Hicom dan Desa
> Kemuning di sempadan Shah Alam dan Klang. Berikut ialah beberapa gambar
> banjir teruk yang telah di *capture* oleh rakan-rakan Facebook di sekitar
> Bandar Puchong.****
>
>
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> sumber: plbgaimacam
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> *comments: *****
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> Anonymous said... ****
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> Assalammu'alaikum,
> Kera jaan bn / umno dan syabas kata Selangor akan kekurangan dan
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>
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>
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>
> Apabila Kerajaan Pusat (UMNO/BN) tidak menjalankan tanggungjawab
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> jalan, selenggara parit, longkang dan sungai dibazirkan kepada projek
> Merakyatkan Ekonomi Selangor yang didakwanya menguntungkan kroni politik
> PKR, DAP dan PAS.
>
> "Air hak rakyat seperti yang dilaungkan setiap hari oleh MB, adalah air
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>
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>
> Banjir kilat yang melanda Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong (LDP) di Puchong. **
> **
>
> ****
>
> PUCHONG � Hujan lebat sejak jam 4 petang tadi menyebabkan banjir kilat di
> sekitar Puchong mengakibatkan kenderaan terperangkap di Lebuhraya Damansara
> Puchong berhadapan pusat membeli belah, IOI Mall.****
>
> ****
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> Menurut peniaga di pusat membeli-belah terbabit, hujan lebat menyebabkan
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>
> ****
>
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>
> Foto yang dirakam beberapa pengunjung di pusat membeli-belah terbabit
> turut menunjukkan air naik di kawasan parkir menyebabkan beberapa kenderaan
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>
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Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Yasmi Yahaya" wnh8067

Assalamualaikum..

tentang ABS senseor tu nyala ambo ada pengalaman kat exora ambo.. dia nyala ABS dan Lampu Handbrake..

Pergi kedai pomen dia scan kereta tu.. lepas dia kata ABS sensor rosak.. kena bayar la hampir2 RM 800 kot.. termasuk  upah scan.. tak tau le .. kena tipu ke tak.. bayaran banyak tu..

itu sebagai pengalaman ambo..

sekian..

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From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com>
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To: "automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 9:16 AM

 

keta kawan aku volvo - lampu brake failure nyala, memang terus tak boleh jalan,... kena pakai tow truck..ini membuktikan V6 ni guna teknolgi canggih, benda dah rosak pun boleh jalan dg selamat ..hehe..jgn mare.. From: Mohd Syaril Matsali <syaril.matsali@my.panasonic.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala


 

ABS sensor... keta V6 saya dok menyala
je x padam2, check pakai NDT pun xleh erase.

pomen cakap ABS sensor dh rosak, benda
tu boleh ditukar... tapi brp harga x pasti, tapi xde effect pape la time
driving...

klu salah betulkan la ye....

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Apa yg menyebabkan lampu yg ada gambar yg menunjukkan
gambar kereta dijalan yg licin itu duk menyala .. Kereta perdana v6 ..Bukan
selalu nyala ..kadang2 padam kadang2 duk nyala ..ikut sedap rasa dia jer
..siapa yg pernah ada pengalaman ..

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Yasmi Yahaya" wnh8067

Assalamualaikum..

tentang ABS senseor tu nyala ambo ada pengalaman kat exora ambo.. dia nyala ABS dan Lampu Handbrake..

Pergi kedai pomen dia scan kereta tu.. lepas dia kata ABS sensor rosak.. kena bayar la hampir2 RM 800 kot.. termasuk  upah scan.. tak tau le .. kena tipu ke tak.. bayaran banyak tu..

itu sebagai pengalaman ambo..

sekian..

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From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Lampu Jalan licin duk menyala
To: "automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 9:16 AM

 

keta kawan aku volvo - lampu brake failure nyala, memang terus tak boleh jalan,... kena pakai tow truck..ini membuktikan V6 ni guna teknolgi canggih, benda dah rosak pun boleh jalan dg selamat ..hehe..jgn mare.. From: Mohd Syaril Matsali <syaril.matsali@my.panasonic.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
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ABS sensor... keta V6 saya dok menyala
je x padam2, check pakai NDT pun xleh erase.

pomen cakap ABS sensor dh rosak, benda
tu boleh ditukar... tapi brp harga x pasti, tapi xde effect pape la time
driving...

klu salah betulkan la ye....

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Apa yg menyebabkan lampu yg ada gambar yg menunjukkan
gambar kereta dijalan yg licin itu duk menyala .. Kereta perdana v6 ..Bukan
selalu nyala ..kadang2 padam kadang2 duk nyala ..ikut sedap rasa dia jer
..siapa yg pernah ada pengalaman ..

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Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:45 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"MHZ" mohamad_hadi

salam,

gen2 sedara aku penah sensor rosak (sensor exzos/throtle kot tak silap).
dia g beli sendiri kat kedai sparepart & pasang sendiri. jimat banyak
berbanding hantar kedai katanya. sebelum tu dia gi buat scan computer
dulu la.

On 06/03/2013 8:43 AM, Yasmi Yahaya wrote:
> Assalamualaikum..
>
> tentang ABS senseor tu nyala ambo ada pengalaman kat exora ambo.. dia
> nyala ABS dan Lampu Handbrake..
>
> Pergi kedai pomen dia scan kereta tu.. lepas dia kata ABS sensor
> rosak.. kena bayar la hampir2 RM 800 kot.. termasuk upah scan.. tak
> tau le .. kena tipu ke tak.. bayaran banyak tu..
>
> itu sebagai pengalaman ambo..
>
> sekian..

Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:58 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"iskandar" minummilosehatdankuat

kedai mamak jauh berbatulah pulak nak gi...

2013/3/6 MHZ <cekelatgetah@gmail.com>

> **
>
>
> 30 minit lama tu.. lepak mamak la pekena teh tarik segelas.. boleh jugak
> tambah kolestrol dlm badan hehehe..
>
> On 06/03/2013 6:13 PM, iskandar wrote:
>
>
>
> Salam
>
> hantar ambik anak gi balik sekolah aku kadang selalu dok dlm kete sambil
> pasang aircorn...
>
> memang tahu tak berapa di galakkan minyakpun kuat,tapi apa nak buat tak
> tahan panas
> nak balik dulu sementara tunggu anak yg lain masa tunggu cuma 30minit
> je,jadi terpaksa tunggu
> di bawah panas terik.
>
> Kepada yg berpengalaman nak tahu gak apakah keburukkannya selalu pasang
> aircorn dok
> dalam kereta ..bhgn mana yg cepat kong?
>
> pengguna avanza auto 1.5
>
>
>
>

Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:25 am (PST) . Posted by:

"bashah" bwasi

untungnya anak dapat bapak mithali...

pasang tinted gred tinggi so, boleh tutup enjin sekejap...atau datang lambat sikit ngam2 dg masa anak balik
bahayanya kalau ekzoz bocor masuk kereta masa keta takgerak

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To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Apakah risiko selalu pasang aircorn sambil enjin running?


 
kedai mamak jauh berbatulah pulak nak gi...

2013/3/6 MHZ <cekelatgetah@gmail.com>


>30 minit lama tu.. lepak mamak la pekena teh tarik segelas.. boleh jugak tambah kolestrol dlm badan hehehe..
>
>
On 06/03/2013 6:13 PM, iskandar wrote:
>

>>Salam 
>>
>>
>>hantar ambik anak gi balik sekolah aku kadang selalu dok dlm kete sambil pasang aircorn...
>>
>>
>>memang tahu tak berapa di galakkan minyakpun kuat,tapi apa nak buat tak tahan panas
>>nak balik dulu sementara tunggu anak yg lain masa tunggu cuma 30minit je,jadi terpaksa tunggu
>>di bawah panas terik.
>>
>>
>>Kepada yg berpengalaman nak tahu gak apakah keburukkannya selalu pasang aircorn dok
>>dalam kereta ..bhgn mana yg cepat kong?
>>
>>
>>pengguna avanza auto 1.5
>

Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:38 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Abdul Rahman bin Johari" man_apache

taknak jual ke avanza tu
hehehe
gurau je boh, jgn marah ye

risiko psg aircond biasa tu la dia
takut gas ekzos dtg dr mana masuk dlm kete
lemas dlm tu
acu try test bukak tingkap sikit
kalau menunggu tu

yg mane kong dulu
tatau lak nak kata
ini pendapat 20sen saya je
ntah betul or tak
enjin running all the way
maksudnya ada benda terus berputar
bearing/belt mesti wear and tear dulu
dr masa yg spatutnya
brg enjin thn lasak
brg ekon spt blower, compresor, termostat n kipas maybe de efek sikit
wallahualam

bashah wrote:
>
> untungnya anak dapat bapak mithali...
>
> pasang tinted gred tinggi so, boleh tutup enjin sekejap...atau datang
> lambat sikit ngam2 dg masa anak balik
> bahayanya kalau ekzoz bocor masuk kereta masa keta takgerak
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* iskandar <minummilosehatdankuat@googlemail.com>
> *To:* automobil@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2013 2:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Apakah risiko selalu
> pasang aircorn sambil enjin running?
>
>
> kedai mamak jauh berbatulah pulak nak gi...
>
> 2013/3/6 MHZ <cekelatgetah@gmail.com <mailto:cekelatgetah@gmail.com>>
>
>
> 30 minit lama tu.. lepak mamak la pekena teh tarik segelas.. boleh
> jugak tambah kolestrol dlm badan hehehe..
>
> On 06/03/2013 6:13 PM, iskandar wrote:
>>
>> Salam
>>
>> hantar ambik anak gi balik sekolah aku kadang selalu dok dlm kete
>> sambil pasang aircorn...
>>
>> memang tahu tak berapa di galakkan minyakpun kuat,tapi apa nak
>> buat tak tahan panas
>> nak balik dulu sementara tunggu anak yg lain masa tunggu cuma
>> 30minit je,jadi terpaksa tunggu
>> di bawah panas terik.
>>
>> Kepada yg berpengalaman nak tahu gak apakah keburukkannya selalu
>> pasang aircorn dok
>> dalam kereta ..bhgn mana yg cepat kong?
>>
>> pengguna avanza auto 1.5
>
>
>
>
>

Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:42 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Abdul Rahman bin Johari" man_apache

Salam warga automobil

Rekomen kan saya model MPV apa yg sesuai untuk penjimatan dari segi
penggunaan minyak and penjagaan(maintenance).
Antara Citra dengan Avanza mana lagi baik?
Bajet loan dalam 30k begitu
Terima kasih

Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:14 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti

kalau saya,

avanza.

timing chain, rear drive.
 
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

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From: Abdul Rahman bin Johari <arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Minta pendapat MPV?


 
Salam warga automobil

Rekomen kan saya model MPV apa yg sesuai untuk penjimatan dari segi
penggunaan minyak and penjagaan(maintenance).
Antara Citra dengan Avanza mana lagi baik?
Bajet loan dalam 30k begitu
Terima kasih

Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:17 am (PST) . Posted by:

"agai@017"

Tuan
 
kalau dari segi penggunaan minyak, Avanza jauh lagi better dari Citra
Maintenance....klu servis kat toyota mahal la sikit....klu servis kt kedai biasa
make sure rekod servis terdahulu ada...supaya next servis dah tau nak buat apa
 
Citra better dari segi rekabentuk dan handling sebab dia rendah
orang duduk belakang sekali takde berbuai sangat berbanding avanza
Cumanya blower air cond tiada di bahagian belakang berbanding avanza.
 
Lain2 bab teknikal saya serahkan kepada saudara Nazri Ahtar
sebab dia pun guna Avanza :)
 
Tq
 
 


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To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 7 March 2013 4:43 PM
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Salam warga automobil

Rekomen kan saya model MPV apa yg sesuai untuk penjimatan dari segi
penggunaan minyak and penjagaan(maintenance).
Antara Citra dengan Avanza mana lagi baik?
Bajet loan dalam 30k begitu
Terima kasih

Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:17 am (PST) . Posted by:

noorazlimdali

Betul saya setuju
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kalau saya,

avanza.

timing chain, rear drive.
 
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar


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From: Abdul Rahman bin Johari <arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Minta pendapat MPV?


 
Salam warga automobil

Rekomen kan saya model MPV apa yg sesuai untuk penjimatan dari segi
penggunaan minyak and penjagaan(maintenance).
Antara Citra dengan Avanza mana lagi baik?
Bajet loan dalam 30k begitu
Terima kasih


Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:23 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Abdul Rahman bin Johari" man_apache

tp avanza dlm bajet 30k ada yang 1.3 je
ok kah?
tak underpower ke bro nazri?

noorazlimdali@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Betul saya setuju
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From: * Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.com>
> *Sender: * automobil@yahoogroups.com
> *Date: *Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:14:31 +0800 (SGT)
> *To: *automobil@yahoogroups.comautomobil@yahoogroups.com>
> *ReplyTo: * automobil@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Minta pendapat MPV?
>
>
> kalau saya,
>
> avanza.
>
> timing chain, rear drive.
>
> rgds,
> Nazri Ahtar
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Abdul Rahman bin Johari <arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my>
> *To:* automobil@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:43 PM
> *Subject:* www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Minta pendapat MPV?
>
>
> Salam warga automobil
>
> Rekomen kan saya model MPV apa yg sesuai untuk penjimatan dari segi
> penggunaan minyak and penjagaan(maintenance).
> Antara Citra dengan Avanza mana lagi baik?
> Bajet loan dalam 30k begitu
> Terima kasih
>
>
>
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