Sunday, September 6, 2009

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Re: Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora [5 Attachments]

Posted by: "mohdmat" kedai_tayar@yahoo.com   kedai_tayar

Sat Sep 5, 2009 9:33 am (PDT)



Only to compare Engine performance
 
 
Campro CPS
MAX OUTPUT (kw/rpm 93/6500)
MAX TORQUE (nm/rpm) 150/4500
 
Exora Campro CPS turbocharged (wikipedia) 2010-2011
the engine is estimated to be about 150 bhp (112 kW; 152 PS) and 240 N·m (180 ft·lbf) of torque. with 5 speed AT & CVT (sama mcm latest BMW pakai)
 
Toyota Passo Sette  and Boon Luminas if Perodua MPV to be based on this model.
 
-my comment, eventhough new 2009 model but Toyota still uses 4 speed AT. Kebanyakan manufacturer skrg samada pakai 5 speed AT or CVT. 1.5 engine mcm ni lebih sesuai utk org kat Jepun. kat m'sia dgn 1.5 L with engine output mcm tu x sure bole cater utk org m'sia especially waktu hill climbing. with this power output and 4 speed AT, you can't expect better fuel comsumption but depend on vehicle kerb weight.  fuel consumption kat bawah tu tak sure berapa passenger yg dia bawak. 
 
Engine Specifications

Displacement (cc)
Powertrain
Transmission
Maximum output (kW(PS)/rpm)
Maximum torque (N-m(kg-m)/rpm)
Fuel consumption* (km/l)

3ZR-VE
1,495
Front-engine, front-wheel drive
Four-speed automatic transmission
80 (109)/6,000
141 (14.4)/4,400
15.6

Four-wheel drive
14.6
*Under the 10-15 Japanese test cycle, as certified by Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com> wrote:

From: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora [5 Attachments]
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 4:54 PM

 

[Attachment(s) from Shahrul Izwan included below]

saya cuma sekadar menolong menambahkan pilihan utk org yg bertanya..yg tu saja...kalau tuan yg bertanya tu memang dah "dead set" nak beli samada eastar atau exora itu adalah pilihan dia...saya xmau komen pasal model exora @ eastar ni pasal automobilers yg lain dah bagi pandangan mereka... 
 
antara beberapa sebab saya listkan sama model perodua:-
1.perodua lani guna teknolji toyota tapi rega macam keta buatan mesia
2.enjin dvvt dan guna timing chain..xyah dah nak piker nak tukar timingbelt setiap 80K km..tapi kalau x kisah xpela..
3.rata2 model perodua lebih save minyak berbanding jenama lain,so sendiri mau piker la...
 
kepada yg bertanya,melainkan kalau dah urgent sangat nak amik keta,saya cadangkan supaya bersabar dulu dalam 1-2bulan nie tgu sampai model perodua tu kuar..pastu baru la tuan mula buat tilikan dan pilihan...lagi byk pilihan lagi bagus...jgn menyesal kemudian hari..nak kuar duit puluh2 ribu tu....
 
salamz...
p/s:sila refer attachment kalau nak tgk..saya xtau betul camni @ tidak tapi kalau betoi mmg sempoi la..ramalan akan kuar pada november 2009 dan pada rega rm60k-rm65k. .


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Re: proton wira keluar asap byk dari ekzos..

Posted by: "mohdmat" kedai_tayar@yahoo.com   kedai_tayar

Sat Sep 5, 2009 9:34 am (PDT)



I think the only special tool needed (other than compresor & adaptor into spark plug hole) is a valve spring compressor. penah nampak kat kedai hardware dlm rm 40 (x sure harga skrg).

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Azmi OilyMan <mr.oilyman@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Azmi OilyMan <mr.oilyman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - proton wira keluar asap byk dari ekzos..
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 9:19 PM

 

Salam,

Workshop pomen saya di kg.subang pakai special tool utk tukar valve seal.
Dia caj RM100 lebih (all in)
Masa +- 1 jam
Tak perlu buka head, cuma buka cover jer..

Tembak kut lubang plug ni cara baru ker?
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2009/9/4 Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo. com>

 

salam,

kat KL tak tau kedai mana boleh tukar valve seal guna air compressor tu (masuk angin melalui lubang spark plug). kat taiping ada la... hehehhe.... mmg cepat, tak banyak bukak sana sini. kena tanya2 pomen mana guna method tu... :)

good luck.

 
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

From: mohdmat <kedai_tayar@ yahoo.com>
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 9:35:44 PM

Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - proton wira keluar asap byk dari ekzos..

 

bergantung kepada jenis asap & condition keta u. +pomen sebelum ni buat dgn betul tukar piston ring ,bla bla. pd pandangan saya, ini disebabkan oleh  valve stem seal dkt cylinder head. klu x tukar lagi valve seal, chances utk leak thru the valve is high. ini berdasarkan keta u carb so maybe more than 10 yrs old & byk enjin mitsu yg kena tukar valve seal at this age. klu disebabkan oleh valve seal (klu valve seal x tukar lagi), kosnya x la mahal sgt. klu nk buat sendiri x sampai pun rm40 (beli set siap complete dgn all the gaskets waktu buka cyl head), klu nk mahal sikit bole ambil set dari jepun rm80. klu suruh pomen buat dlm abt RM350 tapi pastikan pomen tu buat betul2 terutamanya waktu nk tighten kan cyl head to cyl block, lagi baik klu dia pakai torque wrench. this is critical sbb klu x betul tightening, bole leak thru head gasket . klu nk buat sendiri & x ada torque wrench bole sewa kat saya. klu valve seal dah leak, sembur la apa2 pun
pencuci karbon ke hydrogen ke, oksigen ke, mmg x leh cure punya sbb dh leak. satu lagi method yg bole dibuat klu nk save lagi, cuma tukar valve seal tanpa buka cyl head, maybe x sampai rm20 ( x sure kedai spare part jual seal saja) tapi kena ada compressor utk maintain valve position waktu keluarkan collet + spring. mechanic kat m'sia x tau samada praktis method ni.  itu hanya andaian saya thru alam siber ni. klu x betul , minta maaf byk2. for correct procedure, pls refer to manufacturer manual/recommendati on.
 

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Azmi OilyMan <mr.oilyman@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Azmi OilyMan <mr.oilyman@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - proton wira keluar asap byk dari ekzos..
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 12:44 AM

 

Salam,

Pencuci karbon tu kita guna jika enjin masih elok, sb fungsi ia cuma cuci karbon bukannya merapatkan gap piston ring tu..

Saya syorkan u rebore (korek/potong) blok tu, pakai piston baru (saiz besar dari ori), ring pun baru. InsyaAllah boleh jimat kos berbanding tukar enjin seketul..

Setahun lps tu baru jumpa saya utk cuci karbon...hehehe

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OILYMAN TECHNOLOGY
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2009/9/2 Izatt <evo98my@yahoo. com>

 

En Azmi...

cadang nak tukar ke 4G91 tu memng ada..bajet je belum ada...hehehe. ..sya tanya kat bangi nie pun kos lebih kurang RM 5k...utk tukar ke half cut 4G91 auto

kalo sya guna keluaran en Azmi tu (carbon cleaner) tu boleh ke..saja tanya je..sya belum cuba lagi laa...

sya ada tuka grand vavle sama ke tu valve seal...

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Azmi OilyMan <mr.oilyman@gmail. .com> wrote:

From: Azmi OilyMan <mr.oilyman@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - proton wira keluar asap byk dari ekzos..
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:30 AM

 

Salam,

Bila masa asap tu keluar? Kalau waktu pagi2 biasa lah... kalau waktu enjin panas tu luarbiasa

Apa warna asap? Kalau hitam bermakna tuning kaburetor tak betul. Kalau putih kebiru-biruan tu makan minyak hitam lah..

Minyak hitam ada kurang tak?

Kalau takat tukar ring tak cukup...valve seal ada tukar? Kalau satu set semua dah tukar, mgkn selinder tu dah haus banyak, masuk ring baru pun takleh cover gap tu. Mgkn boleh buat overhaul dgn cara rebore...tapi piston pun kena tukar.

Mgkn boleh cuba "smoke treatment" keluaran STP, ada jual kat Tesco RM19.50 sebotol, tambah dalam minyak hitam.

Kalau itu pun tak jadi, baik tukar enjin jer...masuk 4G91 baru besh...
Atau jual je kete tu, beli kete lain...

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Azmi Abdullah
OILYMAN TECHNOLOGY
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Tel: +60192764645 or +60176930306
E-Mail: azmi@oilyman. com.my
Web: www.oilyman. com.my
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2009/9/2 Izatt <evo98my@yahoo. com>

 

Salam..semua. .

saya menggunakan kereta model wira 1.5 karberator.. .
masalah kereta saya ialah keluar asap yg byk dari ekzos..
utk pengetahuan. ..piston ring, top head gasket saya dah tukar...
apa lagi yaa masalah kete saya nie....

tq

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