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1a.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: Cinan
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1a.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "Cinan" nuriez76@rocketmail.com nuriez76

Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:46 pm (PDT)

salam.. sori
tumpang mencelah.
kita jangan mimpi lah harga kereta skrg akan turun murah mcm apa yang dijual di
luar negara.
manakan mungkin kerajaan akan turunkan cukai supaya harga kereta tempatan
menjadi murah.

Sebabnya...kualiti kereta tempatan tak akan mampu (maybe sampai bila-bila)
menyamai kualiti kereta kuar negara.

Siapa yang akan dipanggil siuman jika membeli sebuah Waja yang dijual sama murah
dengan harga sebuah Lancer/Peg 308. (dalam hiraki kepuasan diri / self esteem,
tiada ranking semangat kebangsaan).Kepuasan diri mendahului segala-galanya.

Pasaran kereta tempatan di luar negara pun bukan besar sangat.Jadi untuk
maintain volume yang selesa bagi sesebuah production kereta utk mencapai break
even point, adalah dengan memaksa rakyat m'sia membeli kereta tempatan. Ia
dilaksana secara halus dengan kerjasama kerajaan iaitu melaui
mengimplementasikan cukai & duti yang tinggi bagi kereta kategori bukan
tempatan.

Jadi terselamatlah dari pengeluar kereta tadi dari terlungkup bungkus tikar
selepas 1@2 product keluarannya menjalar di atas jalanraya.

Untuk tidak bermimpi di siang hari, tidak usah lah kita membayangkan kereta di
malaysia akan murah selagi kerajaan yang menerajui negara ini masih lagi
melindungi kepentingan industri perkilangan kereta (bukan pemotoran sebab
malaysia tak pernah ada kereta keluaran sendiri...sebab semuanya
rebuild/redesign/re-brand) berbanding kepentingan rakyat m'sia
(melayu+cina+india+iban+bidayuh+murut+kadazan+etc).

p/s: kekadang terfikir..apakah rakyat malaysia selama-lamanya akan dijual oleh
saudagar mimpi.

Jadi...untuk memimpikan harga kereta di m'sia murah, kita kena lihat dulu
kualiti kereta kereta keluaran tempatan ini menyamai kereta keluaran luar negara
& mampu di jual di pelbagai negara luar.

________________________________
From: "tarmizi@yahoo.com" <tarmizi@yahoo.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 15 July, 2010 10:31:37
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

As Salam. Tok Mod,

Hide ID please…company mail.

He..he..he.. setuju cakap bashah ni,dalam maksudnya.M'sia dah worldwide!! Cuma
taraf hidup rakyat masih banyak jurang perbezaan,yg kaya bertambah kaya,
Yg senang maintain camtu je,yg sedang2 ni mudah tergelincir ke tahap sesak
skali-skala, yg susah bertambah susah (ni yg paling ramai).Kekayaan Negara tak
Mengalir sama-rata,kita kena struggle untuk survive,ada yg jadi "hamba" kpd
majikan mata sepet semata-mata utk earn 1.5k sebulan.

Boleh dikatakan majority org kita(terutama yg baru pakai kete) sanggup bayar
installment kete hampir separuh gaji,bila dah nak kawen baru pikir nak buat
adjustment balik, yg selalu tukar2 kete dll perkara yg akan menggalakan industry
kete dan peningkatan pendapatan &loan bank.Harga kete akan jadi stabil
Mcm sekarang lah walaupun m'sia dah pasang kete merc,Honda,Toyota, kia(naza)
,audi(coming soon) dan dengarnya naza ngan Honda nak buat kilang
Sparepart kat seremban/nilai akan datang..nah, dari buat sparepart hingga ke
assembly part kita buat tapi dari segi harga completed belum tentu ada
Penurunannya. Pasal proton/perodua lagi pnjang crite bro..
Domestic market yg mempengaruhi kerajaan dlm menentukan harga/cukai seseuatu
barangan.Domestic market tu dari siapa…kitelah!!

Saya setuju ngan paragh.yg bawah tu,org melayu yg paling banyak beli kete(sbb
malay ramai!!),kadng 1 rmh ada 3 units,kalu india(yg taraf biasalah) satu rumah
Ada satu van(mazda bongo/ford lama),kalu kete satu family disumbat macam
sardine..he. .he..he.. jngn marah frend,kalu cino ada mpv,paling cikai toyota
unser,kete burok buat angkut brng niaga..org kita?kira bajet bln2 rasa2
ok..paling cikai naza citra/avanza, tapi laki-bini kena keje,kalu sorang je yg
keje habis
Terlangkup,lari bajet!!

Contohlah..contoh je..tak semua cam tu.

From:automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
Of bashah
Sent: Wednesday, 07, 2010 9:22 AM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005 lepas
gawat 1998.

Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international F1, F2
, Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu kita juga dah jadi
United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu bukti Malaysia adalah
negara maju.

jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti kenderaan
terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah murah...sebab itu
Malaysia ialah negara maju.

Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM, Diamond,
Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja tak macam
dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.

Tak perlu tunggu 2020.

--- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
>
> Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or add
> similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I found

> is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>
> In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
> Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
> Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
> Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
> Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>
>
>
> BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>
> The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
> RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
> RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>
>
>
> Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>
> The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
> US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
> For about RM265,000.
>
>
>
> VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>
> In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
> RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
> Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>
>
>
> And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
> Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
> RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>
>
> Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in The
> United States .
> We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper than

> the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
> It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>
> Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
> Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
> Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
> Than Indonesia .
>
> The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
> For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>
> We are paying ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
> Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
> Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>
> We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
> Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
> AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
>Disproportionately
>
> large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to subsidise
>
> the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>
>
> 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
> support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly Involved in
> the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of 216:1.
>
> This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can Contribute
> many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
> million unhappy people can change a Government.
> (The maths is not really difficult here)
>
> And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone else.
>
> Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
> Policy. This is truncated:
>
> Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
>
> 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
> Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
> Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
> Regional economic downturn.
>
> 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
> Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
> On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
> Components,? he said.
>
> 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
> Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
> Domestic market.
>
> 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
> Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
>
>
> Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
> Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
> We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
> Automobiles.
>
>
> Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
> Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
> (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
> mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>
>
> Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
> harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
> bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>
>
> Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
> belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
> sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
> dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
> daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>
>
> This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
> any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
> will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
> economic growth too.
>
>
> Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
> orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
> pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
> gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
> menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>
>
> In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
> are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
> cars.
>
> Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
> suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
> too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
> companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
> supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
> sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
>
>
> Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
> Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
> is not a good thing at all.
>
>
> We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
> to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
> impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
> reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>
>
> If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
> little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
>
>
> The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
> though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
> Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
> three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>
>
> The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
> beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
> really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>
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1b.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "Mohmad Abdullah" mbabest@hotmail.com matdollahmy

Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:02 pm (PDT)

Betul tu kalau tak , tak kan beratus -ratus kereta proton tak laku jual kat china, lepas tu scraped macam tu saja,..kalau kat malaysia saga buruk empat segi pun orang masih pakai lagi, tapi bila kereta baru tak laku jual kat china, scrap macam tu saja...tu baru china, Africa Selatan? dan lain tempat lagi...

Masa nak jual kat china, siap tukar logo, dan brand name.. http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/1107/46/

Proton sendiri malu nak mengaku kereta Malaysia...tukar jadi jenama Euro.... ,

Minyak dah naik bro..., gula pun,....

To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
From: nuriez76@rocketmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:19:24 +0000
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

salam.. sori
tumpang mencelah.
kita jangan mimpi lah harga kereta skrg akan turun murah mcm apa yang dijual di luar negara.
manakan mungkin kerajaan akan turunkan cukai supaya harga kereta tempatan menjadi murah.

Sebabnya...kualiti kereta tempatan tak akan mampu (maybe sampai bila-bila) menyamai kualiti kereta kuar negara.

Siapa yang akan dipanggil siuman jika membeli sebuah Waja yang dijual sama murah dengan harga sebuah Lancer/Peg 308. (dalam hiraki kepuasan diri / self esteem, tiada ranking semangat kebangsaan).Kepuasan diri mendahului segala-galanya.

Pasaran kereta tempatan di luar negara pun bukan besar sangat.Jadi untuk maintain volume yang selesa bagi sesebuah production kereta utk mencapai break even point, adalah dengan memaksa rakyat m'sia membeli kereta tempatan. Ia dilaksana secara halus dengan kerjasama kerajaan iaitu melaui mengimplementasikan cukai & duti yang tinggi bagi kereta kategori bukan tempatan.

Jadi terselamatlah dari pengeluar kereta tadi dari terlungkup bungkus tikar selepas 1@2 product keluarannya menjalar di atas jalanraya.

Untuk tidak bermimpi di siang hari, tidak usah lah kita membayangkan kereta di malaysia akan murah selagi kerajaan yang menerajui negara ini masih lagi melindungi kepentingan industri perkilangan kereta (bukan pemotoran sebab malaysia tak pernah ada kereta keluaran sendiri...sebab semuanya rebuild/redesign/re-brand) berbanding kepentingan rakyat m'sia (melayu+cina+india+iban+bidayuh+murut+kadazan+etc).

p/s: kekadang terfikir..apakah rakyat malaysia selama-lamanya akan dijual oleh saudagar mimpi.

Jadi...untuk memimpikan harga kereta di m'sia murah, kita kena lihat dulu kualiti kereta kereta keluaran tempatan ini menyamai kereta keluaran luar negara & mampu di jual di pelbagai negara luar.

From: "tarmizi@yahoo.com" <tarmizi@yahoo.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 15 July, 2010 10:31:37
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

As Salam. Tok Mod,

Hide ID please…company mail.

He..he..he.. setuju cakap bashah ni,dalam maksudnya.M'sia dah worldwide!! Cuma taraf hidup rakyat masih banyak jurang perbezaan,yg kaya bertambah kaya,
Yg senang maintain camtu je,yg sedang2 ni mudah tergelincir ke tahap sesak skali-skala, yg susah bertambah susah (ni yg paling ramai).Kekayaan Negara tak
Mengalir sama-rata,kita kena struggle untuk survive,ada yg jadi "hamba" kpd majikan mata sepet semata-mata utk earn 1.5k sebulan.

Boleh dikatakan majority org kita(terutama yg baru pakai kete) sanggup bayar installment kete hampir separuh gaji,bila dah nak kawen baru pikir nak buat adjustment balik, yg selalu tukar2 kete dll perkara yg akan menggalakan industry kete dan peningkatan pendapatan &loan bank.Harga kete akan jadi stabil
Mcm sekarang lah walaupun m'sia dah pasang kete merc,Honda,Toyota, kia(naza) ,audi(coming soon) dan dengarnya naza ngan Honda nak buat kilang
Sparepart kat seremban/nilai akan datang..nah, dari buat sparepart hingga ke assembly part kita buat tapi dari segi harga completed belum tentu ada
Penurunannya. Pasal proton/perodua lagi pnjang crite bro..
Domestic market yg mempengaruhi kerajaan dlm menentukan harga/cukai seseuatu barangan.Domestic market tu dari siapa…kitelah!!

Saya setuju ngan paragh.yg bawah tu,org melayu yg paling banyak beli kete(sbb malay ramai!!),kadng 1 rmh ada 3 units,kalu india(yg taraf biasalah) satu rumah
Ada satu van(mazda bongo/ford lama),kalu kete satu family disumbat macam sardine..he. .he..he.. jngn marah frend,kalu cino ada mpv,paling cikai toyota unser,kete burok buat angkut brng niaga..org kita?kira bajet bln2 rasa2 ok..paling cikai naza citra/avanza, tapi laki-bini kena keje,kalu sorang je yg keje habis
Terlangkup,lari bajet!!

Contohlah..contoh je..tak semua cam tu.

From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of bashah
Sent: Wednesday, 07, 2010 9:22 AM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005 lepas gawat 1998.

Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.

jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.

Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM, Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.

Tak perlu tunggu 2020.

--- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
>
> Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or add
> similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I found
> is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>
> In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
> Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
> Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
> Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
> Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>
>
>
> BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>
> The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
> RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
> RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>
>
>
> Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>
> The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
> US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
> For about RM265,000.
>
>
>
> VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>
> In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
> RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
> Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>
>
>
> And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
> Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
> RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>
>
> Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in The
> United States .
> We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper than
> the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
> It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>
> Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
> Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
> Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
> Than Indonesia .
>
> The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
> For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>
> We are paying ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
> Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
> Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>
> We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
> Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
> AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A Disproportionately
> large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to subsidise
> the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>
>
> 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
> support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly Involved in
> the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of 216:1.
>
> This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can Contribute
> many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
> million unhappy people can change a Government.
> (The maths is not really difficult here)
>
> And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone else.
>
> Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
> Policy. This is truncated:
>
> Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
>
> 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
> Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
> Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
> Regional economic downturn.
>
> 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
> Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
> On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
> Components,? he said.
>
> 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
> Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
> Domestic market.
>
> 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
> Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
>
>
> Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
> Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
> We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
> Automobiles.
>
>
> Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
> Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
> (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
> mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>
>
> Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
> harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
> bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>
>
> Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
> belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
> sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
> dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
> daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>
>
> This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
> any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
> will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
> economic growth too.
>
>
> Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
> orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
> pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
> gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
> menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>
>
> In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
> are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
> cars.
>
> Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
> suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
> too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
> companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
> supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
> sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
>
>
> Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
> Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
> is not a good thing at all.
>
>
> We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
> to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
> impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
> reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>
>
> If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
> little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
>
>
> The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
> though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
> Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
> three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>
>
> The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
> beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
> really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>
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1c.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "zamri harun" zamlope@yahoo.com zamlope

Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:09 am (PDT)

Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian dan kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis about 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com>
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM

Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005 lepas gawat 1998.

Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.

jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.

Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM, Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.

Tak perlu tunggu 2020.

--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@...> wrote:
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> Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
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> Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or add
> similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I found
> is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
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> Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>
> In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
> Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
> Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
> Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
> Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>
>
>
> BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>
> The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
> RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
> RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>
>
>
> Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>
> The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
> US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
> For about RM265,000.
>
>
>
> VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>
> In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
> RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
> Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>
>
>
> And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
> Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
> RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>
>
> Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in The
> United States .
> We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper than
> the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
> It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>
> Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
> Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
> Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
> Than Indonesia .
>
> The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
> For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>
> We are paying ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
> Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
> Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>
> We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
> Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
> AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A Disproportionately
> large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to subsidise
> the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>
>
> 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
> support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly Involved in
> the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of 216:1.
>
> This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can Contribute
> many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
> million unhappy people can change a Government.
> (The maths is not really difficult here)
>
> And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone else.
>
> Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
> Policy. This is truncated:
>
> Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
>
> 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
> Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
> Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
> Regional economic downturn.
>
> 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
> Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
> On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
> Components,? he said.
>
> 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
> Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
> Domestic market.
>
> 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
> Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
>
>
> Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
> Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
> We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
> Automobiles.
>
>
> Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
> Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
> (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
> mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>
>
> Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
> harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
> bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>
>
> Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
> belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
> sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
> dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
> daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>
>
> This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
> any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
> will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
> economic growth too.
>
>
> Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
> orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
> pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
> gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
> menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>
>
> In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
> are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
> cars.
>
> Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
> suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
> too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
> companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
> supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
> sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
>
>
> Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
> Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
> is not a good thing at all.
>
>
> We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
> to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
> impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
> reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>
>
> If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
> little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
>
>
> The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
> though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
> Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
> three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>
>
> The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
> beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
> really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>
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> Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
> ________________________________
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2.: BMW E3O TURBO FOR SALE..

Posted by: "KUMAR KUMAR" kumar_vs24@yahoo.com kumar_vs24

Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:08 am (PDT)

Dear Friends,
Need your help!!
I wants to sell my car BMW Turbo, car specifications as below:-
Car Model : BMW 318i (E30)
Year : 1991
Transmission : Manual
Colour : Metallic Blue
Engine Capacity : SR 20 Det S13 : 2000CC
Turbo : Convert to S15
Mileage : 60,000km
Condition : Tip Top in Good Condition
Selling Price : RM 30,000
Location : KL

Accessories
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(012-720 8969)

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