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1a.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: baddRi Rozaimi
1b.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: zamri harun

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1a.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "baddRi Rozaimi" zordaq@yahoo.com zordaq

Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:22 pm (PDT)

Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak cover bonus
kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita laa yg akan bg bonus
raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah kena bayar.. nak gi jalan2
kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan lg.).. cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta
laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai) . harga kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat
negara luar.. minyak mahal mcam kita beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde
ladang tebu....orang yang akan merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada
keluarga.. mampus laa si bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000
lg.. haha pening..

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From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@yahoo.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
Subject:Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

salam...

kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena bayar... tol
bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...

tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....

miskin kah kita??? ;-p

--- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:

>From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
>Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
>Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
>
>
>
>Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah bercakap dan
>mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian dan kebenaran.
>Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita perlukan hujah yang
>matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis about 'why' do that and why
>dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan dayafikir ini adalah cakap2
>politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang.
>Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan
>oleh politik dan cuba bercakap sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba
>bertindak sebagai di pihak yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca
>tulisan dibawah.
>
>--- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
>>Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>>To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>>Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
>>majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005 lepas
>>gawat 1998.
>>
>>Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international F1, F2
>>, Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu kita juga dah jadi
>>United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu bukti Malaysia adalah
>>negara maju.
>>
>>
>>jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti kenderaan
>>terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah murah...sebab itu
>>Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>>
>>
>>Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM, Diamond,
>>Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja tak macam
>>dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>>
>>
>>Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>>
>>--- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>>>
>>>
>>> Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or add
>>> similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I found
>>
>>> is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Car Prices In Malaysia
>>>
>>> BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>>>
>>> In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
>>> Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
>>> Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
>>> Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
>>> Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>>>
>>> The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
>>> RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
>>> RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>>>
>>> The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
>>> US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
>>> For about RM265,000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>>>
>>> In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
>>> RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
>>> Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
>>> Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
>>> RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>>>
>>>
>>> Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in The
>>> United States .
>>> We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper than
>>
>>> the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
>>> It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>>>
>>> Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
>>> Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
>>> Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
>>> Than Indonesia .
>>>
>>> The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
>>> For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>>>
>>> We are paying ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
>>> Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
>>> Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>>>
>>> We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
>>> Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
>>> AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
>>>Disproportionately
>>>
>>> large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to subsidise
>>>
>>> the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>>>
>>>
>>> 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
>>> support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly Involved in
>
>>> the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of 216:1.
>>>
>>> This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can Contribute
>>
>>> many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
>>> million unhappy people can change a Government.
>>> (The maths is not really difficult here)
>>>
>>> And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone else.
>>>
>>> Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
>>> Policy. This is truncated:
>>>
>>> Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
>>>
>>> 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
>>> Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
>>> Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
>>> Regional economic downturn.
>>>
>>> 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
>>> Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
>>> On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
>>> Components,? he said.
>>>
>>> 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
>>> Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
>>> Domestic market.
>>>
>>> 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
>>> Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
>>>
>>>
>>> Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
>>> Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
>>> We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
>>> Automobiles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
>>> Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
>>> (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
>>> mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
>>> harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
>>> bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
>>> belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
>>> sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
>>> dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
>>> daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
>>> any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
>>> will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
>>> economic growth too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
>>> orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
>>> pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
>>> gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
>>> menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>>>
>>>
>>> In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
>>> are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
>>> cars.
>>>
>>> Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
>>> suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
>>> too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
>>> companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
>>> supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
>>> sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
>>>
>>>
>>> Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
>>> Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
>>> is not a good thing at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
>>> to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
>>> impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
>>> reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
>>> little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
>>>
>>>
>>> The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
>>> though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
>>> Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
>>> three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>>>
>>>
>>> The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
>>> beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
>>> really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>>>
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1b.: Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "zamri harun" zamlope@yahoo.com zamlope

Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:23 am (PDT)

Salam,
Saya minta maaf kpd Sdr Bashah jika beliau berkecil hati.
Saya sebenarnya sudah agak gelisah dengan pandangan2 berbau politik. Saya tidak bias kpd mana2 parti politik tetapi saya phobia kpd unsur2 mengondem di antara kita terutamanya org2 Melayu.

Proton diwujudkan oleh kerajaan diantaranya ialah untuk membawa negara menjadi negara yg berorientasikan perindustrian. Bukan sahaja industri kereta tetapi lain2 juga ini termasuklah kilang2, plant2, makmal2 moden dan lain lain. Untuk mencapai taraf negara maju dengan segera kita mestilah beralih dari negara pertanian ke nagara perindustrian.

Utk menjamin kejayaan proton ini di pasaran negara sendiri yg pertamanya kerajaan haruslah membuat beberapa kaedah perlindungan kerana sudah tentu proton dengan usianya yg mentah tidak akan dapat bersaing dgn jenama2 luar negara yg sedia amat canggih dengan R&Dnya dan teknologinya. ( perlulah diingat, kejayaan proton dinegara sendiri adalah merupakan kejayaan kerajaan, kejayaan kerajaan pula adalah merupakan kejayaan rakyat, hasil tax dan sebagainya akan kembali disalurkan semula kepada rakyat dalam bentuk yang lain pula seperti barangkali rawatan kesihatan percuma, sistem persekolahan yang percuma dan juga kerajaan mampu memberi berbagai subsidy, samaada tepung, gula, minyak dan lain2).

Masa berlalu dan kita mengharapkan proton sudah boleh bersaing dgn lain2 jenama dan dgn itu tax kepada kereta luar haruslah dikaji semula. Sampai bila2 proton tidak akan dapat bersaing dgn jenama2 spt honda atau toyota, ini adalah kerana proton masih tidak mampu membangunkan R&D nya sebagaimana Toyota kerana mungkin masalah duit. Keuntungan proton belum boleh dibelanjakan utk itu semua kerana keuntungan tersebut amat ciput. Itu semua hanya boleh menampung kos operasi dan sedikit dividen utk share holder barangkali. Namun kita tetap harus bangga kerana dalam kedaifan itu, mereka masih mampu membangunkan model2 baru yg dari segi mutu tidaklah terlalu jauh bezanya dgn lain2 jenama.

Kalau semua tax tersebut dihapuskan, sudahlah pasti 80% pasaran negara akan diambil oleh jenama2 hebat tersebut dan proton akan nazak. Nazaknya proton akan menazakkan pula ribuan pekerjanya yg terdiri drpd mereka2 yg bernama Ahmad, Mamat dan Minah itu. Industri2 hilirannya seperti vendor2 yg melambak di Nilai, Rawang dan lain2 akan turut bungkus dan ini akan pula memberi kesan kepada ribuan lg rakyat jelata.

Untuk pengetahuan Nik dan Bashah, saya hanya memandu wira tahun 2000, ianya masih elok cuma sesekali trotle bodynya tidak stabil, tukar sahaja kitnya yg berharga rm 35. Saya juga seperti insan2 lain bercita2 utk memandu Toyota Civic atau H Accord namun itu semua hanyalah untuk memenuhkan kehendak riak saya buat masa ini kerana saya memang belum mampu, insyaAllah one day namun walaupun wira saya berumur 10 tahun, ianya tetap reliable, tahniah proton.

--- On Fri, 7/16/10, Nik MazdaBG <nikmazda@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Nik MazdaBG <nikmazda@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 2:08 PM

ini bukan masalah untuk mempolitikkan sesuatu..ini adalah luahan hati
rakyat kepada sesuatu permasalahan yang sepatutnya tidak timbul dan
tidak membebankan rakyat..mungkin saudara Zamri Harun ni seorang yang
berkemampuan untuk membeli kereta mewah dengan harga yang jauh
melambung jika dibandingkan dengan harga di negara jiran..sebab itu
boleh berkata sedemikian rupa..jika tidak berkemampuan mungkin saudara
Zamri Harun berfikiran sebaliknya.

kewujudan proton tidak sepatutnya menjadikan kerajaan menidakkan hak
rakyat untuk memiliki jenama kereta lain pada harga yang
munasabah..cukai yang dinaikkan berlipat kali ganda adalah sangat
tidak munasabah..contohnya sudah ada dan tidak perlu dihuraikan lagi..

inginkan proton maju dan berdaya saing bukanlah dengan cara sebegini
rupa..keluarkan produk yang berkualiti dan setaraf dengan produk
eropah..jangan kata eropah..kita ambil contoh terdekat seperti produk
drp china dan korea..belum lagi nak dibandingkan dengan negara
jepun..kalau mutu produk sebegitu rupa..saya rasa usahkan kita rakyat
malaysia sahaja ingin beli proton, orang lain pun akan turut teruja.

malaysia bukanlah sebuah negara yang miskin yang bergantung kepada
hasil cukai kenderaan semata-mata..dengan KDNK yang sentiasa
meningkat..hasil bumi yang banyak..minyak & gas,kelapa
sawit..getah..kayu balak dll..seharusnya kerajaan sedar dan memikirkan
cara untuk memberi keselesaan kepada rakyat dalam semua segi..bukan
saja keamanan & kesejahteraan tetapi nikmat hidup sementara di dunia
ini..

mungkin rakyat malaysia terlalu berlembut dan tidak ambil kisah sangat
sehinggakan kerajaan terus menerus melakukan sesuatu yang tidak
menyenangkan rakyat..

sekian terima kasih

On 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah bercakap
> dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita perlukan
> hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis about 'why'
> do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan dayafikir
> ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini amatlah
> mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada negara
> bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap sesuatu yg
> mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak yang betul
> dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
> majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international
> F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu kita
> juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu bukti
> Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti
> kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM, Diamond,
> Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja tak macam
> dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogroups.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>> Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or add
>>
>> similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I
>> found
>> is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Car Prices In Malaysia
>>
>> BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>>
>> In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
>> Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
>> Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
>> Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
>> Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>>
>>
>>
>> BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>>
>> The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
>> RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
>> RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>>
>> The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
>> US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
>> For about RM265,000.
>>
>>
>>
>> VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>>
>> In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
>> RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
>> Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>>
>>
>>
>> And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
>> Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
>> RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>>
>>
>> Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in The
>>
>> United States .
>> We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper
>> than
>> the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
>> It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>>
>> Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
>> Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
>> Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
>> Than Indonesia .
>>
>> The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
>> For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>>
>> We are paying ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
>> Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
>> Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>>
>> We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
>> Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
>> AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
>> Disproportionately
>> large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to
>> subsidise
>> the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>>
>>
>> 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
>> support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly Involved
>> in
>> the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of 216:1.
>>
>> This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can
>> Contribute
>> many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
>> million unhappy people can change a Government.
>> (The maths is not really difficult here)
>>
>> And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone
>> else.
>>
>> Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
>> Policy. This is truncated:
>>
>> Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
>>
>> 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
>> Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
>> Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
>> Regional economic downturn.
>>
>> 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
>> Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
>> On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
>> Components,? he said.
>>
>> 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
>> Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
>> Domestic market.
>>
>> 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
>> Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
>>
>>
>> Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
>> Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
>> We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
>> Automobiles.
>>
>>
>> Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
>> Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
>> (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
>> mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>>
>>
>> Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
>> harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
>> bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>>
>>
>> Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
>> belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
>> sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
>> dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
>> daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>>
>>
>> This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
>> any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
>> will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
>> economic growth too.
>>
>>
>> Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
>> orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
>> pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
>> gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
>> menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>>
>>
>> In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
>> are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
>> cars.
>>
>> Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
>> suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
>> too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
>> companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
>> supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
>> sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
>>
>>
>> Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
>> Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
>> is not a good thing at all.
>>
>>
>> We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
>> to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
>> impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
>> reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>>
>>
>> If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
>> little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
>>
>>
>> The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
>> though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
>> Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
>> three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>>
>>
>> The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
>> beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
>> really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>>
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2a.: AVANZA 1.3 AUTO

Posted by: "Harris Bin Haron" Harris@maa.com.my

Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:22 am (PDT)

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2b.: Re: AVANZA 1.3 AUTO

Posted by: "Shahrul Izwan" Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com

Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:09 am (PDT)

Salam,

Kalau diikutkan semua gearbox baik manual mahupun auto ada gear
overdrive..perbezaannya ialah sesetengah gearbox membolehkan driver utk
off/on gear OD nie...

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