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Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:30 am (PST) . Posted by:
"-:eSpAcE9808:-" rienacom
10 fakta yang anda perlu tahu tentang WhatsApp
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Posted by Kedah Lanie
KUALA LUMPUR: Facebook membeli aplikasi WhatsApp, perkhidmatan mesej yang berkembang pesat pada harga lebih daripada $16 bilion dalam bentuk tunai dan saham.
Namun, Facebook dan WhatsApp tetap akan beroperasi dan mempunyai ahli lembaga bersasingan. WhatsApp juga mempunyai 450 juta pengguna aktif setiap bulan.
"Pengambilalihan ini menyokong misi bersama Facebook dan WhatsApp untuk mewujudkan lebih banyak rangkaian dan utiliti kepada dunia dengan menyediakan perkhidmatan Internet teras yang cekap dan sesuai dengan kemampuan," dalam satu kenyataan yang dikeluarkan oleh Facebook.
telokbakong.
kedahlanie.info
Posted by Kedah Lanie
KUALA LUMPUR: Facebook membeli aplikasi WhatsApp, perkhidmatan mesej yang berkembang pesat pada harga lebih daripada $16 bilion dalam bentuk tunai dan saham.
Namun, Facebook dan WhatsApp tetap akan beroperasi dan mempunyai ahli lembaga bersasingan. WhatsApp juga mempunyai 450 juta pengguna aktif setiap bulan.
"Pengambilalih
Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:34 am (PST) . Posted by:
"-:eSpAcE9808:-" rienacom
Relevankah Undang-Undang Cermin Gelap untuk kenderaan di Malaysia..??
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Posted by Kedah Lanie
Mohammad Agus Yusoff
WAJARKAH MENGHARAMKAN PENGGUNAAN CERMIN GELAP?
Ramai pengguna jalan raya merungut apabila disaman oleh JPJ kerana menggunakan cermin gelap. Mereka bertanya, untuk apa JPJ mengharamkan penggunaan cermin gelap sedangkan cuaca kita panas?
Selain itu, mereka menyatakan penggunaan cermin gelap juga memberikan banyak kelebihan seperti menjimatkan minyak kerana dapat mengurangkan penggunaan hawa dingin, pemandu dan penumpang berasa selesa dan ini boleh mengurangkan risiko kemalangan.
Mengapa Cermin Gelap Dilarang di Malaysia?
Di Malaysia, mengapa pula JPJ melarang penggunaan cermin gelap ini? Apakah dengan mengharamkannya, maka boleh mengurangkan kadar kemalangan?
Rakyat tidak yakin larangan penggunaan cermin gelap boleh mengurangkan kadar kemalangan kerana ada faktor lain yang lebih signifikan seperti kualiti jalanraya yang tidak baik, garisan putih yang pudar di kebanyakan jalanraya, sikap pemandu yang cuai dan tidak sabar, serta faktor keadaan kenderaan yang tidak layak berada di atas jalan raya seperti tayar botak dan pengubahsuaian terhadap enjin.
Tidak hanya itu. Jika alasannya adalah untuk mencegah jenayah, berapa peratuskan kadar jenayah yang berlaku disebabkan oleh pengguna kereta bercermin gelap?
Dengan banyak persoalan yang ditimbulkan, rakyat mahu tahu apakah faktor utama JPJ mengharamkan penggunaan cermin gelap? Pertanyaan ini wajar kerana JPJ hanya membenarkan kereta kenamaan sahaja yang menggunakan cermin gelap atas alasan keselamatan. Pertanyaan mereka ialah, apakah orang kenamaan sahaja yang perlu selamat dan tidak rakyat jelata? Mengapa diamalkan peraturan double standard ini?
Peruntukan Undang-Undang Melarang Penggunaan Cermin Gelap
Sebenarnya, tidak ramai rakyat yang tahu peruntukan undang-undang yang melarang penggunaan cermin gelap. Larangan tersebut diperuntukkan di bawah kaedah 11(a) dan 11(b), Kaedah-Kaedah Kenderaan Motor (Larangan Mengenai Jenis-Jenis Kaca Tertentu) 1991.
Mengikut kaedah ini, JPJ mengharamkan pemasangan cermin gelap, kecuali kepada golongan tertentu sahaja seperti Raja-raja Melayu, hakim mahkamah tinggi, pemimpin tertinggi polis dan tentera, menteri-menteri dan juga kepada golongan yang menghadapi masalah kesihatan atau dengan ancaman keselamatan.
Pun begitu, negara kita bukanlah mengharamkan sama sekali penggunaan cermin gelap. Negara kita benarkan juga, tetapi sesuai dengan peruntukan Kaedah 5(1) dan Kaedah 5(3), Kaedah-Kaedah Kenderaan Motor (Larangan Mengenai Jenis-Jenis Kaca Tertentu) Pindaan 2000.
Kaedah ini menetapkan cermin cermin depan hendaklah telus cahaya tidak kurang 70%. Cermin belakang dan tepi hendaklah telus cahaya tidak kurang dari 50%. Terdapat pengecualian pada kawasan 20% memanjang sebelah atas cermin hadapan kenderaan dan pada tingkap tepi semua jenis kenderaan dan pada tingkap tepi semua jenis bas atau caravan kecuali bagi tingkap di sebelah kiri atau kanan pemandu.
Dengan peraturan yang melarang penggunaan cermin gelap dan dengan kehendak rakyat yang mahukan pemasangan cermin gelap, maka apakah tindakan terbaik JPJ? Apakah terus mengekalkan peraturan sedia ada atau mengkaji semula larangan ini?
kedahlanie.info
Posted by Kedah Lanie
Mohammad Agus Yusoff
WAJARKAH MENGHARAMKAN PENGGUNAAN CERMIN GELAP?
Ramai pengguna jalan raya merungut apabila disaman oleh JPJ kerana menggunakan cermin gelap. Mereka bertanya, untuk apa JPJ mengharamkan penggunaan cermin gelap sedangkan cuaca kita panas?
Selain itu, mereka menyatakan penggunaan cermin gelap juga memberikan banyak kelebihan seperti menjimatkan minyak kerana dapat mengurangkan penggunaan hawa dingin, pemandu dan penumpang berasa selesa dan ini boleh mengurangkan risiko kemalangan.
Mengapa Cermin Gelap Dilarang di Malaysia?
Di Malaysia, mengapa pula JPJ melarang penggunaan cermin gelap ini? Apakah dengan mengharamkannya, maka boleh mengurangkan kadar kemalangan?
Rakyat tidak yakin larangan penggunaan cermin gelap boleh mengurangkan kadar kemalangan kerana ada faktor lain yang lebih signifikan seperti kualiti jalanraya yang tidak baik, garisan putih yang pudar di kebanyakan jalanraya, sikap pemandu yang cuai dan tidak sabar, serta faktor keadaan kenderaan yang tidak layak berada di atas jalan raya seperti tayar botak dan pengubahsuaian terhadap enjin.
Tidak hanya itu. Jika alasannya adalah untuk mencegah jenayah, berapa peratuskan kadar jenayah yang berlaku disebabkan oleh pengguna kereta bercermin gelap?
Dengan banyak persoalan yang ditimbulkan, rakyat mahu tahu apakah faktor utama JPJ mengharamkan penggunaan cermin gelap? Pertanyaan ini wajar kerana JPJ hanya membenarkan kereta kenamaan sahaja yang menggunakan cermin gelap atas alasan keselamatan. Pertanyaan mereka ialah, apakah orang kenamaan sahaja yang perlu selamat dan tidak rakyat jelata? Mengapa diamalkan peraturan double standard ini?
Peruntukan Undang-Undang Melarang Penggunaan Cermin Gelap
Sebenarnya, tidak ramai rakyat yang tahu peruntukan undang-undang yang melarang penggunaan cermin gelap. Larangan tersebut diperuntukkan di bawah kaedah 11(a) dan 11(b), Kaedah-Kaedah Kenderaan Motor (Larangan Mengenai Jenis-Jenis Kaca Tertentu) 1991.
Mengikut kaedah ini, JPJ mengharamkan pemasangan cermin gelap, kecuali kepada golongan tertentu sahaja seperti Raja-raja Melayu, hakim mahkamah tinggi, pemimpin tertinggi polis dan tentera, menteri-menteri dan juga kepada golongan yang menghadapi masalah kesihatan atau dengan ancaman keselamatan.
Pun begitu, negara kita bukanlah mengharamkan sama sekali penggunaan cermin gelap. Negara kita benarkan juga, tetapi sesuai dengan peruntukan Kaedah 5(1) dan Kaedah 5(3), Kaedah-Kaedah Kenderaan Motor (Larangan Mengenai Jenis-Jenis Kaca Tertentu) Pindaan 2000.
Kaedah ini menetapkan cermin cermin depan hendaklah telus cahaya tidak kurang 70%. Cermin belakang dan tepi hendaklah telus cahaya tidak kurang dari 50%. Terdapat pengecualian pada kawasan 20% memanjang sebelah atas cermin hadapan kenderaan dan pada tingkap tepi semua jenis kenderaan dan pada tingkap tepi semua jenis bas atau caravan kecuali bagi tingkap di sebelah kiri atau kanan pemandu.
Dengan peraturan yang melarang penggunaan cermin gelap dan dengan kehendak rakyat yang mahukan pemasangan cermin gelap, maka apakah tindakan terbaik JPJ? Apakah terus mengekalkan peraturan sedia ada atau mengkaji semula larangan ini?
Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:35 am (PST) . Posted by:
"-:eSpAcE9808:-" rienacom
Perodua Viva better than Tata Nano?
By Naveen Victor | Motor Trader Malaysia
a..
a.. The Nano is smaller than the Viva but not by much
Tata has introduced the Nano Twist, a much needed improvement over the original. It retails for nearly half the price of a Perodua Viva but is it half the car?
Small cars are very popular as not only are they light on fuel, but because of their rather miniature dimensions, are easy to manoeuvre through narrow city streets and park in spaces that would prove too small for anything larger than a Perodua Viva.
Apart from these two selling points, small/ compact cars are relatively cheap to buy, insure and maintain. But the problem is, just because they are cheap, doesn't mean they are good. Take the Tata Nano for example. It's the most affordable car in the world and was introduced to allow motorcyclists in India to trade two wheels for four without feeling much of a pinch.
Tata had huge plans for the car but unfortunately, the Nano fell short of the expectations by a mile. With safety concerns and reports of a number of them catching fire, the car wasn't well received.
As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail and sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. The interior design and build quality was abysmal to say the least. The worst part of it all was how badly it fared in crash tests, GlobalNCAP conducted one and gave the Nano zero stars, that's right! The car couldn't be graded. Instead of rambling on about the reasons for the lacklustre results, here's a video by the GlobalNCAP proving my point.
Tata Nano crash test Video
Now, Tata has given their micro car a few upgrades and called it the Nano Twist. Since the original, the automaker has been adding features such as a glovebox, a left wing mirror and audio system, improving the mechanicals such as engine and gearbox gradually so as not to cause a sharp increase in manufacturing cost. As such Tata has taken an evolutionary approach instead of a revolutionary one when trying to make their "People's car" more appealing to the general public.
Right now, the Nano Twist retails for Rs. 2.36 lakh, which when converted to Ringgit is around RM12,643.70. The smallest reasonably priced car we have in Malaysia is the Perodua Viva, its fairly bigger than the Nano but can be considered its closest rival. The Viva (660BX costs RM24,924.30) is about twice the price of the Nano, but is it twice the car? You be the judge. Specifications for both cars are as follows:
Tata Nano Twist Specifications
Perodua Viva Specifications
Comments
a.. James •
a.. Everyone's must check out the crash test link as provided!
b.. Kalvindran Balamuraly •
The truth is that our so called national car proton and also perodua is no match against tata twist. Forget about the accidents that Tata Nano cost, This avatar of nano has been upgraded, I've saw it in youtube, and I need it admit it is the cheapest car in the world. If government can show their "MALAYSIA BOLEH" and not jaguh kampung, why don't they lower the tax of the car and see how far they can go. I bet there will be lots of things that our government need to learn once Proton and Perodua bankrupt. Our car is too overprice and believe it or not, the is the only country that the car price is same as a house price. All they do is just sucking our blood.
c.. Adam Smith •
A modified golf buggy would give this midget car a run for its money.
d.. Ocox •
i'm not interested in viva or nano, i'm only interested if they lower the price of cars here so the price of cars will be the same as any other asian countries.
e.. Alfred •
If Nano is to be sold in Malaysia for RM12k +, I would buy it in an instant. But sadly the Malaysian govt will not allow the Nano to be sold so cheaply, for fear of the Rakyat dumping their protons for it.
f.. Man Of Steel •
RM 12k is the price of a motorbike, using it to buy a car is considered cheap.
RM 25k is the price of 2 Harleys, using it to buy a Viva is stupid.
The shock absorbers and glove box is surely not worth RM13k.
g.. buah kelubi •
this nano can do more damage than good to city roads and highways. It would be dangerous with idiots who just got their driving license and decided to buy a brand new first car. Imagine currently we have vivas being easily driven into ravines and easily crashing into lamp posts, now this nano would have a far devastating impact, driven at stupidly high speed and with an idiotic light weight design, we could literally have a huge pile of nano wreckages by the roadsides all over malaysia. PLEASE DO NOT PUT NANOS ON THE ROADS OF MALAYSIA!!!!!!!!!.
h.. ARBIEYE •
No Nano or Viva for me. I would feel much safer in RM12,000 Mercedes W124.
i.. ram •
Of course viva better than nano...if viva reduce price to 20k than they can penetrate indian market or indonesia, myanmar, Cambodia,
j.. Nge •
apalah tohol ini..Tata jual US 1000.. Viva jual RM 30K..try compare a Car that amount same with Viva.
k.. Tuck •
Please give incentives to mat rempit to buy nano cheaper...
l.. CTK •
have look the nano b4 and have to admitted that even Proton far away better than nano. Just like heaven and earth.... the only vehicle comparable to nano is the Bajaj...
m.. Brandy Nilsson •
Bring in the Nano, i will get one.
n.. A Yahoo User •
Nano sure die when accident same oso viva.....
o.. hijabninja •
2 cylinder engine ?......if engine breakdown, can swapped a Honda cub engine inside ? Max speed - 105 KM/hr ?..Honda cub engine can do 130 KM/hr !
p.. Silent_Builder •
simple comparison: TATA is a urinal with4 wheels, Proton is a toilet seat with 4 wheels..Proton wins.
q.. sabaman •
if tata nano is made in malaysia, the price will be the same
r.. Sing wei Patrick wong •
please think about how much your life costs. Only then can u consider the value for money!
s.. Sur •
Itz about the price and quality that paid off...im nt sure about nano ...but as a malaysian I noe bout vivi'S incredible strength and quality which gives us and our family best protection AND not forgetting with cheapest ever price for all Malaysian !!!!!
t.. sam •
i guess nothing matches VIVA, Made at Tanjung Malim but with Japanese Technologies.Arigato Godo Maskah.Height.
u.. Moh •
u should compare tata nano with kris bike, then only we see it got lots of advantages....hehehe
v.. Lee •
"As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail and sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. "
Love the above statement ".....as appealing as syphilis....."? hahahaha.....but to be fair, what do you expect from a car that retails at RM12k plus?
w.. Noname •
saya sebagai pengguna viva kalau jumpa nano ni kat atas jalan raya mmg saya buli terus. dahla hodoh mcm telur ayam. ini kalau kat highway lalu sebelah lori kontena confirm2 melayang. tak senonoh betul compare ngan viva pulak. compare la dgn chery QQ yg hodoh tu. apoda.......
x.. whats next •
how does it go, pedal power? i guess not much hope for aircon <sigh>
y.. Alihuddin •
No,No..No,dont bring Nano to Malaysia, very very dangerous car, like handcart (kerita sorong) viva much,much batter
z.. GI Joe •
1 thing,spare parts
aa.. ProblemsChild •
boleh masuk turbo L2s ? haha
ab.. Gozol Boon •
intrusion beam ?!
By Naveen Victor | Motor Trader Malaysia
a..
a.. The Nano is smaller than the Viva but not by much
Tata has introduced the Nano Twist, a much needed improvement over the original. It retails for nearly half the price of a Perodua Viva but is it half the car?
Small cars are very popular as not only are they light on fuel, but because of their rather miniature dimensions, are easy to manoeuvre through narrow city streets and park in spaces that would prove too small for anything larger than a Perodua Viva.
Apart from these two selling points, small/ compact cars are relatively cheap to buy, insure and maintain. But the problem is, just because they are cheap, doesn't mean they are good. Take the Tata Nano for example. It's the most affordable car in the world and was introduced to allow motorcyclists in India to trade two wheels for four without feeling much of a pinch.
Tata had huge plans for the car but unfortunately, the Nano fell short of the expectations by a mile. With safety concerns and reports of a number of them catching fire, the car wasn't well received.
As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail and sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. The interior design and build quality was abysmal to say the least. The worst part of it all was how badly it fared in crash tests, GlobalNCAP conducted one and gave the Nano zero stars, that's right! The car couldn't be graded. Instead of rambling on about the reasons for the lacklustre results, here's a video by the GlobalNCAP proving my point.
Tata Nano crash test Video
Now, Tata has given their micro car a few upgrades and called it the Nano Twist. Since the original, the automaker has been adding features such as a glovebox, a left wing mirror and audio system, improving the mechanicals such as engine and gearbox gradually so as not to cause a sharp increase in manufacturing cost. As such Tata has taken an evolutionary approach instead of a revolutionary one when trying to make their "People's car" more appealing to the general public.
Right now, the Nano Twist retails for Rs. 2.36 lakh, which when converted to Ringgit is around RM12,643.70. The smallest reasonably priced car we have in Malaysia is the Perodua Viva, its fairly bigger than the Nano but can be considered its closest rival. The Viva (660BX costs RM24,924.30) is about twice the price of the Nano, but is it twice the car? You be the judge. Specifications for both cars are as follows:
Tata Nano Twist Specifications
Perodua Viva Specifications
Comments
a.. James •
a.. Everyone'
b.. Kalvindran Balamuraly •
The truth is that our so called national car proton and also perodua is no match against tata twist. Forget about the accidents that Tata Nano cost, This avatar of nano has been upgraded, I've saw it in youtube, and I need it admit it is the cheapest car in the world. If government can show their "MALAYSIA BOLEH" and not jaguh kampung, why don't they lower the tax of the car and see how far they can go. I bet there will be lots of things that our government need to learn once Proton and Perodua bankrupt. Our car is too overprice and believe it or not, the is the only country that the car price is same as a house price. All they do is just sucking our blood.
c.. Adam Smith •
A modified golf buggy would give this midget car a run for its money.
d.. Ocox •
i'm not interested in viva or nano, i'm only interested if they lower the price of cars here so the price of cars will be the same as any other asian countries.
e.. Alfred •
If Nano is to be sold in Malaysia for RM12k +, I would buy it in an instant. But sadly the Malaysian govt will not allow the Nano to be sold so cheaply, for fear of the Rakyat dumping their protons for it.
f.. Man Of Steel •
RM 12k is the price of a motorbike, using it to buy a car is considered cheap.
RM 25k is the price of 2 Harleys, using it to buy a Viva is stupid.
The shock absorbers and glove box is surely not worth RM13k.
g.. buah kelubi •
this nano can do more damage than good to city roads and highways. It would be dangerous with idiots who just got their driving license and decided to buy a brand new first car. Imagine currently we have vivas being easily driven into ravines and easily crashing into lamp posts, now this nano would have a far devastating impact, driven at stupidly high speed and with an idiotic light weight design, we could literally have a huge pile of nano wreckages by the roadsides all over malaysia. PLEASE DO NOT PUT NANOS ON THE ROADS OF MALAYSIA!!!!
h.. ARBIEYE •
No Nano or Viva for me. I would feel much safer in RM12,000 Mercedes W124.
i.. ram •
Of course viva better than nano...if viva reduce price to 20k than they can penetrate indian market or indonesia, myanmar, Cambodia,
j.. Nge •
apalah tohol ini..Tata jual US 1000.. Viva jual RM 30K..try compare a Car that amount same with Viva.
k.. Tuck •
Please give incentives to mat rempit to buy nano cheaper...
l.. CTK •
have look the nano b4 and have to admitted that even Proton far away better than nano. Just like heaven and earth.... the only vehicle comparable to nano is the Bajaj...
m.. Brandy Nilsson •
Bring in the Nano, i will get one.
n.. A Yahoo User •
Nano sure die when accident same oso viva.....
o.. hijabninja •
2 cylinder engine ?......if engine breakdown, can swapped a Honda cub engine inside ? Max speed - 105 KM/hr ?..Honda cub engine can do 130 KM/hr !
p.. Silent_Builder •
simple comparison: TATA is a urinal with4 wheels, Proton is a toilet seat with 4 wheels..Proton wins.
q.. sabaman •
if tata nano is made in malaysia, the price will be the same
r.. Sing wei Patrick wong •
please think about how much your life costs. Only then can u consider the value for money!
s.. Sur •
Itz about the price and quality that paid off...im nt sure about nano ...but as a malaysian I noe bout vivi'S incredible strength and quality which gives us and our family best protection AND not forgetting with cheapest ever price for all Malaysian !!!!!
t.. sam •
i guess nothing matches VIVA, Made at Tanjung Malim but with Japanese Technologies.
u.. Moh •
u should compare tata nano with kris bike, then only we see it got lots of advantages..
v.. Lee •
"As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail and sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. "
Love the above statement ".....as appealing as syphilis....
w.. Noname •
saya sebagai pengguna viva kalau jumpa nano ni kat atas jalan raya mmg saya buli terus. dahla hodoh mcm telur ayam. ini kalau kat highway lalu sebelah lori kontena confirm2 melayang. tak senonoh betul compare ngan viva pulak. compare la dgn chery QQ yg hodoh tu. apoda.......
x.. whats next •
how does it go, pedal power? i guess not much hope for aircon <sigh>
y.. Alihuddin •
No,No..No,dont bring Nano to Malaysia, very very dangerous car, like handcart (kerita sorong) viva much,much batter
z.. GI Joe •
1 thing,spare parts
aa.. ProblemsChild •
boleh masuk turbo L2s ? haha
ab.. Gozol Boon •
intrusion beam ?!
Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:36 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Zaiedishaq" zaiedishaq
Ngeri betul lah tengok crash test dia..
On Saturday, February 22, 2014, -:eSpAcE9808:- <rienacom@yahoo.com.sg>
wrote:
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>
>
> *Perodua Viva better than Tata Nano?*[image: Motor Trader Malaysia]<http://motortrader.com.my/>By
> Naveen Victor | Motor Trader Malaysia
>
> -
> <http://my.news.yahoo.com/photos/perodua-viva-better-tata-nano-photo-084955067.html>
>
>
> -
>
> The Nano is smaller than the Viva but not by much
>
> *Tata has introduced the Nano Twist, a much needed improvement over the
> original. It retails for nearly half the price of a Perodua Viva but is it
> half the car?*
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.com/1577/2014/02/twist_5.jpg>
>
> Small cars are very popular as not only are they light on fuel, but
> because of their rather miniature dimensions, are easy to manoeuvre through
> narrow city streets and park in spaces that would prove too small for
> anything larger than a Perodua Viva.
>
> Apart from these two selling points, small/ compact cars are relatively
> cheap to buy, insure and maintain. But the problem is, just because they
> are cheap, doesn't mean they are good. Take the Tata Nano for example. It's
> the most affordable car in the world and was introduced to allow
> motorcyclists in India to trade two wheels for four without feeling much of
> a pinch.
>
> Tata had huge plans for the car but unfortunately, the Nano fell short of
> the expectations by a mile. With safety concerns and reports of a number of
> them catching fire, the car wasn't well received.
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.com/1577/2014/02/twist_3.jpg>
>
> As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail and
> sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. The interior design and build
> quality was abysmal to say the least. The worst part of it all was how
> badly it fared in crash tests, GlobalNCAP conducted one and gave the Nano
> zero stars, that's right! The car couldn't be graded. Instead of rambling
> on about the reasons for the lacklustre results, here's a video by the
> GlobalNCAP proving my point.
>
> Tata Nano crash test Video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buMXtGoHHIg>
>
> Now, Tata has given their micro car a few upgrades and called it the Nano
> Twist. Since the original, the automaker has been adding features such as a
> glovebox, a left wing mirror and audio system, improving the mechanicals
> such as engine and gearbox gradually so as not to cause a sharp increase in
> manufacturing cost. As such Tata has taken an evolutionary approach instead
> of a revolutionary one when trying to make their "People's car" more
> appealing to the general public.
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.com/1577/2014/02/twist_6-copy.jpg>
>
> Right now, the Nano Twist retails for Rs. 2.36 lakh, which when converted
> to Ringgit is around RM12,643.70. The smallest reasonably priced car we
> have in Malaysia is the Perodua Viva, its fairly bigger than the Nano but
> can be considered its closest rival. The Viva (*660BX* costs RM24,924.30)
> is about twice the price of the Nano, but is it twice the car? You be the
> judge. Specifications for both cars are as follows:
>
> *Tata Nano Twist Specifications*
>
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.com/1577/2014/02/Screen-Shot-2014-02-13-at-2.42.20-PM.jpg>
>
> *Perodua Viva Specifications*
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.com/1577/2014/02/viva_brochure-copy.jpg>
> *Comments*
>
> - *James* <http://profile.yahoo.com/UQFVONCMUS42LPBHF4Y3NGOKLU> *
>
>
> -
>
> Everyone's must check out the crash test link as provided!
>
> - *Kalvindran Balamuraly*<http://profile.yahoo.com/XEATDBZ6Y7MYEEJDMYQE7PA2U4>
> *
>
> The truth is that our so called national car proton and also perodua
> is no match against tata twist. Forget about the accidents that Tata Nano
> cost, This avatar of nano has been upgraded, I've saw it in youtube, and I
> need it admit it is the cheapest car in the world. If government can show
> their "MALAYSIA BOLEH" and not jaguh kampung, why don't they lower the tax
> of the car and see how far they can go. I bet there will be lots of things
> that our government need to learn once Proton and Perodua bankrupt. Our car
> is too overprice and believe it or not, the is the only country that the
> car price is same as a house price. All they do is just sucking our blood.
>
> - *Adam Smith* <http://profile.yahoo.com/7LLZBEE2QNGW444DDQKKXJ2GQY>
> *
>
> A modified golf buggy would give this midget car a run for its money.
>
> - *Ocox* <http://profile.yahoo.com/O3MEZ27OZWNBFFQVVGYP2KLHPA> *
>
> i'm not interested in viva or nano, i'm only interested if they lower
> the price of cars here so the price of cars will be the same as any other
> asian countries.
>
> - *Alfred* <http://profile.yahoo.com/QCSAPPZDMSGN6SQ7GDVHCK6AMY> *
>
> If Nano is to be sold in Malaysia for RM12k +, I would buy it in an
> instant. But sadly the Malaysian govt will not allow the Nano to be sold so
> cheaply, for fear of the Rakyat dumping their protons for it.
>
> - *Man Of Steel* <http://profile.yahoo.com/5MGFQFXIXZ24PCNAI7KLF4MCPA>
> *
>
> RM 12k is the price of a motorbike, using it to buy a car is
> considered cheap.
> RM 25k is the price of 2 Harleys, using it to buy a Viva is stupid.
> The shock absorbers and glove box is surely not worth RM13k.
>
> - *buah kelubi* <http://profile.yahoo.com/BRBVEQTUCHKIPWU4VQFWMLU6FQ>
> *
>
> this nano can do more damage than good to city roads and highways. It
> would be dangerous with idiots who just got their driving license and
> decided to buy a brand new first car. Imagine currently we have vivas being
> easily driven into ravines and easily crashing into lamp posts, now this
> nano would have a far devastating impact, driven at stupidly high speed and
> with an idiotic light weight design, we could literally have a huge pile of
> nano wreckages by the roadsides all over malaysia. PLEASE DO NOT PUT NANOS
> ON THE ROADS OF MALAYSIA!!!!!!!!!.
>
> - *ARBIEYE* <http://profile.yahoo.com/NMUHXBZKVBVOMAZLXOLKKORSRE> *
>
> No Nano or Viva for me. I would feel much safer in RM12,000 Mercedes
> W124.
>
> - *ram* <http://profile.yahoo.com/PN3ZPJMTAF6ILOR5ZG3ICES7OY> *
>
> Of course viva better than nano...if viva reduce price to 20k than
> they can penetrate indian market or indonesia, myanmar, Cambodia,
>
> - *Nge* <http://profile.yahoo.com/HVIQKDHNR5NA44YMDT6LZSYQFY> *
>
> apalah tohol ini..Tata jual US 1000.. Viva jual RM 30K..try compare a
> Car that amount same with Viva.
>
> - *Tuck* <http://profile.yahoo.com/IWYQL3KSBY2L2MHGGC6NEIONVU> *
>
> Please give incentives to mat rempit to buy nano cheaper...
>
> - *CTK* <http://profile.yahoo.com/QMKKHBWMZV5JG4NEGRMQ56T5SM> *
>
> have look the nano b4 and have to admitted that even Proton far away
> better than nano. Just like heaven and earth.... the only vehicle
> comparable to nano is the Bajaj...
>
> - *Brandy Nilsson*<http://profile.yahoo.com/3RMXPNP2O3KJRN7G76I4CUZNWI>
> *
>
> Bring in the Nano, i will get one.
>
> - *A Yahoo User* *
>
> Nano sure die when accident same oso viva.....
>
> - *hijabninja* <http://profile.yahoo.com/ARHK2QL5BIWM5H6ESSRC6UMWIU>
> *
>
> 2 cylinder engine ?......if engine breakdown, can swapped a Honda cub
> engine inside ? Max speed - 105 KM/hr ?..Honda cub engine can do 130 KM/hr !
>
> - *Silent_Builder*<http://profile.yahoo.com/3RDEFFFNFVJ6SLCX4TXNRO34JY>
> *
>
> simple comparison: TATA is a urinal with4 wheels, Proton is a toilet
> seat with 4 wheels..Proton wins.
>
> - *sabaman* <http://profile.yahoo.com/7AVCYPX746AAE7H67SXENXR3XY> *
>
> if tata nano is made in malaysia, the price will be the same
>
> - *Sing wei Patrick wong*<http://profile.yahoo.com/DAHFXNWVEYF63O6GX24A6J36SI>
> *
>
> please think about how much your life costs. Only then can u consider
> the value for money!
>
> - *Sur* <http://profile.yahoo.com/QYF4DMLX2XRO6LRN6AMDJ7C65Q> *
>
> Itz about the price and quality that paid off...im nt sure about nano
> ...but as a malaysian I noe bout vivi'S incredible strength and quality
> which gives us and our family best protection AND not forgetting with
> cheapest ever price for all Malaysian !!!!!
>
> - *sam* <http://profile.yahoo.com/5WSJ3RBJMZ4GAHYBUAALRZ47RE> *
>
> i guess nothing matches VIVA, Made at Tanjung Malim but with Japanese
> Technologies.Arigato Godo Maskah.Height.
>
> - *Moh* <http://profile.yahoo.com/MXPBIFJG5LDFRUWN772IJXDZHM> *
>
> u should compare tata nano with kris bike, then only we see it got
> lots of advantages....hehehe
>
> - *Lee* <http://profile.yahoo.com/NYQGUMKJYC4DHQBVJDF7EWHS54> *
>
> "As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail
> and sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. "
>
> Love the above statement ".....as appealing as syphilis....."?
> hahahaha.....but to be fair, what do you expect from a car that retails at
> RM12k plus?
>
> - *Noname* <http://profile.yahoo.com/3TPGAEE5HFUM7GRGA4UUDEYC3I> *
>
> saya sebagai pengguna viva kalau jumpa nano ni kat atas jalan raya mmg
> saya buli terus. dahla hodoh mcm telur ayam. ini kalau kat highway lalu
> sebelah lori kontena confirm2 melayang. tak senonoh betul compare ngan viva
> pulak. compare la dgn chery QQ yg hodoh tu. apoda.......
>
> - *whats next* <http://profile.yahoo.com/GS6ZXGAV4HHS4CEH6AMDUDNG4M>
> *
>
> how does it go, pedal power? i guess not much hope for aircon <sigh>
>
> - *Alihuddin* <http://profile.yahoo.com/2JBIVPWVULRWYUPHNORBOOUD2A>
> *
>
> No,No..No,dont bring Nano to Malaysia, very very dangerous car, like
> handcart (kerita sorong) viva much,much batter
>
> - *GI Joe* <http://profile.yahoo.com/CGFOEFKT77AH3Q5C4JRYKGBCLM> *
>
> 1 thing,spare parts
>
> - *ProblemsChild*<http://profile.yahoo.com/AMUWR3LRQTKCR5PSEMS2NC3D5A>
> *
>
> boleh masuk turbo L2s ? haha
>
> - *Gozol Boon* <http://profile.yahoo.com/FGVLYGXQJ54FONUNYEIV23EGXU>
> *
>
> intrusion beam ?!
>
>
>
>
>
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On Saturday, February 22, 2014, -:eSpAcE9808:
wrote:
>
>
>
> *Perodua Viva better than Tata Nano?*[image: Motor Trader Malaysia]<http://motortrader.
> Naveen Victor | Motor Trader Malaysia
>
> -
> <http://my.news.
>
>
> -
>
> The Nano is smaller than the Viva but not by much
>
> *Tata has introduced the Nano Twist, a much needed improvement over the
> original. It retails for nearly half the price of a Perodua Viva but is it
> half the car?*
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.
>
> Small cars are very popular as not only are they light on fuel, but
> because of their rather miniature dimensions, are easy to manoeuvre through
> narrow city streets and park in spaces that would prove too small for
> anything larger than a Perodua Viva.
>
> Apart from these two selling points, small/ compact cars are relatively
> cheap to buy, insure and maintain. But the problem is, just because they
> are cheap, doesn't mean they are good. Take the Tata Nano for example. It's
> the most affordable car in the world and was introduced to allow
> motorcyclists in India to trade two wheels for four without feeling much of
> a pinch.
>
> Tata had huge plans for the car but unfortunately, the Nano fell short of
> the expectations by a mile. With safety concerns and reports of a number of
> them catching fire, the car wasn't well received.
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.
>
> As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail and
> sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. The interior design and build
> quality was abysmal to say the least. The worst part of it all was how
> badly it fared in crash tests, GlobalNCAP conducted one and gave the Nano
> zero stars, that's right! The car couldn't be graded. Instead of rambling
> on about the reasons for the lacklustre results, here's a video by the
> GlobalNCAP proving my point.
>
> Tata Nano crash test Video <http://www.youtube.
>
> Now, Tata has given their micro car a few upgrades and called it the Nano
> Twist. Since the original, the automaker has been adding features such as a
> glovebox, a left wing mirror and audio system, improving the mechanicals
> such as engine and gearbox gradually so as not to cause a sharp increase in
> manufacturing cost. As such Tata has taken an evolutionary approach instead
> of a revolutionary one when trying to make their "People&#
> appealing to the general public.
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.
>
> Right now, the Nano Twist retails for Rs. 2.36 lakh, which when converted
> to Ringgit is around RM12,643.70. The smallest reasonably priced car we
> have in Malaysia is the Perodua Viva, its fairly bigger than the Nano but
> can be considered its closest rival. The Viva (*660BX* costs RM24,924.30)
> is about twice the price of the Nano, but is it twice the car? You be the
> judge. Specifications for both cars are as follows:
>
> *Tata Nano Twist Specifications*
>
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.
>
> *Perodua Viva Specifications*
>
> <http://mit.zenfs.
> *Comments*
>
> - *James* <http://profile.
>
>
> -
>
> Everyone'
>
> - *Kalvindran Balamuraly*<http://profile.
> *
>
> The truth is that our so called national car proton and also perodua
> is no match against tata twist. Forget about the accidents that Tata Nano
> cost, This avatar of nano has been upgraded, I've saw it in youtube, and I
> need it admit it is the cheapest car in the world. If government can show
> their "MALAYSIA BOLEH" and not jaguh kampung, why don't they lower the tax
> of the car and see how far they can go. I bet there will be lots of things
> that our government need to learn once Proton and Perodua bankrupt. Our car
> is too overprice and believe it or not, the is the only country that the
> car price is same as a house price. All they do is just sucking our blood.
>
> - *Adam Smith* <http://profile.
> *
>
> A modified golf buggy would give this midget car a run for its money.
>
> - *Ocox* <http://profile.
>
> i'm not interested in viva or nano, i'm only interested if they lower
> the price of cars here so the price of cars will be the same as any other
> asian countries.
>
> - *Alfred* <http://profile.
>
> If Nano is to be sold in Malaysia for RM12k +, I would buy it in an
> instant. But sadly the Malaysian govt will not allow the Nano to be sold so
> cheaply, for fear of the Rakyat dumping their protons for it.
>
> - *Man Of Steel* <http://profile.
> *
>
> RM 12k is the price of a motorbike, using it to buy a car is
> considered cheap.
> RM 25k is the price of 2 Harleys, using it to buy a Viva is stupid.
> The shock absorbers and glove box is surely not worth RM13k.
>
> - *buah kelubi* <http://profile.
> *
>
> this nano can do more damage than good to city roads and highways. It
> would be dangerous with idiots who just got their driving license and
> decided to buy a brand new first car. Imagine currently we have vivas being
> easily driven into ravines and easily crashing into lamp posts, now this
> nano would have a far devastating impact, driven at stupidly high speed and
> with an idiotic light weight design, we could literally have a huge pile of
> nano wreckages by the roadsides all over malaysia. PLEASE DO NOT PUT NANOS
> ON THE ROADS OF MALAYSIA!!!!
>
> - *ARBIEYE* <http://profile.
>
> No Nano or Viva for me. I would feel much safer in RM12,000 Mercedes
> W124.
>
> - *ram* <http://profile.
>
> Of course viva better than nano...if viva reduce price to 20k than
> they can penetrate indian market or indonesia, myanmar, Cambodia,
>
> - *Nge* <http://profile.
>
> apalah tohol ini..Tata jual US 1000.. Viva jual RM 30K..try compare a
> Car that amount same with Viva.
>
> - *Tuck* <http://profile.
>
> Please give incentives to mat rempit to buy nano cheaper...
>
> - *CTK* <http://profile.
>
> have look the nano b4 and have to admitted that even Proton far away
> better than nano. Just like heaven and earth.... the only vehicle
> comparable to nano is the Bajaj...
>
> - *Brandy Nilsson*<http://profile.
> *
>
> Bring in the Nano, i will get one.
>
> - *A Yahoo User* *
>
> Nano sure die when accident same oso viva.....
>
> - *hijabninja* <http://profile.
> *
>
> 2 cylinder engine ?......if engine breakdown, can swapped a Honda cub
> engine inside ? Max speed - 105 KM/hr ?..Honda cub engine can do 130 KM/hr !
>
> - *Silent_Builder*
> *
>
> simple comparison: TATA is a urinal with4 wheels, Proton is a toilet
> seat with 4 wheels..Proton wins.
>
> - *sabaman* <http://profile.
>
> if tata nano is made in malaysia, the price will be the same
>
> - *Sing wei Patrick wong*<http://profile.
> *
>
> please think about how much your life costs. Only then can u consider
> the value for money!
>
> - *Sur* <http://profile.
>
> Itz about the price and quality that paid off...im nt sure about nano
> ...but as a malaysian I noe bout vivi'S incredible strength and quality
> which gives us and our family best protection AND not forgetting with
> cheapest ever price for all Malaysian !!!!!
>
> - *sam* <http://profile.
>
> i guess nothing matches VIVA, Made at Tanjung Malim but with Japanese
> Technologies.
>
> - *Moh* <http://profile.
>
> u should compare tata nano with kris bike, then only we see it got
> lots of advantages..
>
> - *Lee* <http://profile.
>
> "As a whole, the Nano was as appealing as syphilis, went like a snail
> and sounded like a scooter running on kerosene. "
>
> Love the above statement ".....as appealing as syphilis....
> hahahaha....
> RM12k plus?
>
> - *Noname* <http://profile.
>
> saya sebagai pengguna viva kalau jumpa nano ni kat atas jalan raya mmg
> saya buli terus. dahla hodoh mcm telur ayam. ini kalau kat highway lalu
> sebelah lori kontena confirm2 melayang. tak senonoh betul compare ngan viva
> pulak. compare la dgn chery QQ yg hodoh tu. apoda.......
>
> - *whats next* <http://profile.
> *
>
> how does it go, pedal power? i guess not much hope for aircon <sigh>
>
> - *Alihuddin* <http://profile.
> *
>
> No,No..No,dont bring Nano to Malaysia, very very dangerous car, like
> handcart (kerita sorong) viva much,much batter
>
> - *GI Joe* <http://profile.
>
> 1 thing,spare parts
>
> - *ProblemsChild*
> *
>
> boleh masuk turbo L2s ? haha
>
> - *Gozol Boon* <http://profile.
> *
>
> intrusion beam ?!
>
>
>
>
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