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Wed Aug 6, 2014 8:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"-:eSpAcE9808:-" rienacom

Sebelum Pergi Demo Boikot McD...
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Ngomelan SysOp

Peringatan:

Kepada yang nak pergi berdemo anti Israel dan boikot McDonalds tue... Tolonglah jangan pegi sambil memakai seluar jean berjenama Levi's aaaa....

Sebab Levi Strauss tue memang Yahudi totok.... Dan Levi's aderlah sebuah syarikat milik sepenuhnya Yahudi...

Tolong jangan buat malu aaaa....

Hahahahahahaha...

# P/S : jangan lupa bakor semua seluar dan jaket jeans Levi's yang lu orang ader dalam simpanan tue.... Dan kalo boleh bakor la kat depan kedai jual jeans Levi's tue... Hahahaha... Ader brani ka???

Read more: http://cipantapirtenuk.blogspot.com/2014/08/sebelum-pergi-demo-boikot-mcd.html#ixzz39cNjW0rh

KEMPEN Boikot Mcdonald Sepanjang Hayat Kerana ANDA Semua Bukan ANJING
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Posted by Hati Muda

Wujud satu kempen memboikot mcdonald pada hari jumaat ini dengan slogan sehari tanpa mcdonald. Gua tetap tak puas hati dengan kempen boikot satu hari ini kerana kita punyai sebab untuk tidak makan makanan di mcdonald.

Gua kempen berhenti terus makan mcdonald sebagai tanda menghormati diri sendiri sebagai manusia. Sebagai manusia kita tidak sepatutnya diberi makanan low class yang hanya layak untuk dimakan oleh anjing setelah membayar harga yang mahal.

'Basically, we're taking a product that would be sold at the cheapest form for dogs and after this process we can give it to humans' said the TV chef Jamie Oliver - dailymail
Adakah anda menghargai diri anda sebagai manusia?
Adakah anda terlalu bodoh untuk makan makanan taraf makanan anjing setelah membayar dengan harga mahal?

Untuk menjawab soalan itu anda perlu terlebih dahulu tonton video di bawah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wshlnRWnf30

Walaupun Mcdonald telah menghentikan penggunaan daging jenis itu di Amerika pada 2012, namun adakah anda yakin mcdonald tidak menggunakan daging yang sama di Malaysia. Malaysia tidak mempunyai ketegasan mencukupi untuk menghalang mana-mana peniaga dan pengeluar makanan melakukan perkara terkutuk seperti di atas.

*** Jangan lupa - dah bertan-tan makan cadbury baru tahu ada unsur babi

BAGAIMANA DENGAN MCDONALD?

Adakah anda hanya setaraf anjing????

terpulang kepada anda sendiri

DEMO BOIKOT RESTORAN McDONALD'S YANG PALING MENDAPAT SAMBUTAN HANGAT SETAKAT INI.
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Posted by OMAK KAU!!!!

Semenjak dilancarkan secara sukarela melalui laman sosial agar rakyat Malaysia yang sokong perjuangan rakyat Palestine yang kini diserang teruk oleh rejim zionis Laknatullah Israel agar boikot Restoran Mcdonald's inilah kali pertama demo ajak boikot begitu mendapat sambutan luar biasa sekali.

Beribu penduduk tempatan keluar berhimpun secara aman disalah sebuah Restoran McD di Dungun, Terengganu hari ini.

Sambutan begitu hebat sehingga berlaku kesesakan lalu lintas di bandar Dungun.

Apakah sambutan demo ini akan diterhemahkan dalam bentuk boikot????? ... Sama-sama kita tunggu .. hanya masa dan waktu akan menentukannya.

APAKAH SELEPAS JUMAAT INI SEMUA RANGKAIAN RESTORAN MCDONALD'S AKAN BERUBAH WAJAH DAN NAMA?????
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Posted by OMAK KAU!!!!

Setelah beberapa siri bantahan dilakukan rakyat di negara ini terhadap produk yang dikatakan menyumbang kepada rejim Israel, kempen itu nampaknya semakin diperhebat dari hari ke hari.

Melalui satu pesanan dan gambar yang kini menjadi viral di laman sosial, orang ramai diajak memboikot McDonald's bermula Jumaat ini di seluruh negara.

Tiada maklumat setakat ini siapakah penganjur kepada kempen tersebut.

"Hari Boikot McD Malaysia!!! Bermula 8 Ogos 2014 jam 7 pagi hingga 7 pagi. Boikot McDonald's bermula Jumaat ini sehingga Zionis Israel seratus peratus keluar daripada Palestin," tulis pesanan itu.

Pemerhatian Omak Kau mendapati rata-rata pengguna yang berkongsi perkara tersebut di laman sosial masing-masing menyokong kempen berkenaan.

PERSOALANNYA .... apakah selepas ini rangkaian Restoran Mcdonald's akan berubapa wajah dan nama kepada nama yang lebih Islamik dan Melayu??????

Wed Aug 6, 2014 7:28 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"MHZ" mohamad_hadi

Seluar jin levis tu klau dah lama beli pakai jela buat apa nak bakar.
kan bermanafaat utk dipakai. tujuan utama boikot ialah menyekat duit
poket kita jadi dana israel. yg dh beli tu tak boleh nak buat apa dah..

On 06/08/2014 11:29 PM, '-:eSpAcE9808:-' rienacom@yahoo.com.sg
[automobil] wrote:
> 
>
>
> _Sebelum Pergi Demo Boikot McD..._
>
> bloglist-malaysia.blogspot
> cipantapirtenuk.blogspot
> Ngomelan SysOp
> Peringatan:
>
> Kepada yang nak pergi berdemo anti Israel dan boikot McDonalds tue...
> Tolonglah jangan pegi sambil memakai seluar jean berjenama Levi's aaaa....
>
> Sebab Levi Strauss tue memang Yahudi totok.... Dan Levi's aderlah sebuah
> syarikat milik sepenuhnya Yahudi...
>
> Tolong jangan buat malu aaaa....
>
> Hahahahahahaha...
>
> # P/S : jangan lupa bakor semua seluar dan jaket jeans Levi's yang lu
> orang ader dalam simpanan tue.... Dan kalo boleh bakor la kat depan
> kedai jual jeans Levi's tue... Hahahaha... Ader brani ka???
> Read more:
> http://cipantapirtenuk.blogspot.com/2014/08/sebelum-pergi-demo-boikot-mcd.html#ixzz39cNjW0rh
>
>
> KEMPEN Boikot Mcdonald Sepanjang Hayat Kerana ANDA Semua Bukan
> ANJING
> <http://www.lusuka.com/2014/08/kempen-boikot-mcdonald-sepanjang-hayat.html>
>
>
> lusuka.com
> Posted by Hati Muda <https://plus.google.com/103356704603164008895>
> <https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEn5_fvJEajGlqp9jeHE6TghX12b6v9qU3aZp_xxO2trrvdXVwjKASmp3xCMZ_S-71RPVUbazou-QiY25XJXFG58iDubp8VMeS_cHvE3XiBlACMxQst0VkHkgcbI4KDOPROFq5iheZzpFF/s1600/10540779_668205233268561_1935204870164504408_n.jpg>
> Wujud satu kempen memboikot mcdonald pada hari jumaat ini dengan slogan
> sehari tanpa mcdonald. Gua tetap tak puas hati dengan kempen boikot satu
> hari ini kerana kita punyai sebab untuk tidak makan makanan di mcdonald.
>
> Gua kempen berhenti terus makan mcdonald sebagai tanda menghormati diri
> sendiri sebagai manusia. Sebagai manusia kita tidak sepatutnya diberi
> makanan low class yang hanya layak untuk dimakan oleh anjing setelah
> membayar harga yang mahal.
>
> 'Basically, we're taking a product that would be sold at the
> cheapest form for dogs and after this process we can give it to
> humans' said the TV chef Jamie Oliver - dailymail
> <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092127/Jamie-Oliver-Victory-McDonalds-stops-using-pink-slime-burger-recipe.html>
>
> Adakah anda menghargai diri anda sebagai manusia?
> Adakah anda terlalu bodoh untuk makan makanan taraf makanan anjing
> setelah membayar dengan harga mahal?
>
> Untuk menjawab soalan itu anda perlu terlebih dahulu tonton video di bawah.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wshlnRWnf30
>
> Walaupun Mcdonald telah menghentikan penggunaan daging jenis itu di
> Amerika pada 2012, namun adakah anda yakin mcdonald tidak menggunakan
> daging yang sama di Malaysia. Malaysia tidak mempunyai ketegasan
> mencukupi untuk menghalang mana-mana peniaga dan pengeluar makanan
> melakukan perkara terkutuk seperti di atas.
>
> *** Jangan lupa - dah bertan-tan makan cadbury baru tahu ada unsur babi
>
> BAGAIMANA DENGAN MCDONALD?
>
> Adakah anda hanya setaraf anjing????
>
> terpulang kepada anda sendiri
>
>
> DEMO BOIKOT RESTORAN McDONALD'S YANG PALING MENDAPAT SAMBUTAN
> HANGAT SETAKAT INI.
> <http://omakkau.blogspot.com/2014/08/2-foto-demo-boikot-restoran-mcdonalds.html>
>
> omakkau.blogspot
> Posted by OMAK KAU!!!! <http://www.blogger.com/profile/07986786810955624095>
> <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g0y4iIuE9Pg/U-DpeabueEI/AAAAAAAA3-o/el78zwhPOZg/s1600/mcd+demo+kemaman.jpg>
> <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e-uz5OEpxNE/U-DpkrctArI/AAAAAAAA3-w/6J1FAk_q1vs/s1600/mcd+demo+kemaman1.jpg>
>
> Semenjak dilancarkan secara sukarela melalui laman sosial agar rakyat
> Malaysia yang sokong perjuangan rakyat Palestine yang kini diserang
> teruk oleh rejim zionis Laknatullah Israel agar boikot Restoran
> Mcdonald's inilah kali pertama demo ajak boikot begitu mendapat sambutan
> luar biasa sekali.
>
> Beribu penduduk tempatan keluar berhimpun secara aman disalah sebuah
> Restoran McD di Dungun, Terengganu hari ini.
>
> Sambutan begitu hebat sehingga berlaku kesesakan lalu lintas di bandar
> Dungun.
>
> Apakah sambutan demo ini akan diterhemahkan dalam bentuk boikot????? ...
> Sama-sama kita tunggu .. hanya masa dan waktu akan menentukannya.
>
>
> APAKAH SELEPAS JUMAAT INI SEMUA RANGKAIAN RESTORAN MCDONALD'S AKAN
> BERUBAH WAJAH DAN NAMA?????
> <http://omakkau.blogspot.com/2014/08/apakah-selepas-jumaat-ini-semua.html>
>
> omakkau.blogspot.
> Posted by OMAK KAU!!!! <http://www.blogger.com/profile/07986786810955624095>
> <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DAuD07_j9Gk/U-CsKE14x-I/AAAAAAAA39k/E8OXfkPiXAU/s1600/restoran+mcdolah.jpg>
> <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kcuZuoxVCho/U-CsTRc1XhI/AAAAAAAA39s/8sqY94VbkfM/s1600/restoran+mcT.jpg>
> <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pojs24Wtxw4/U-Csn31u_2I/AAAAAAAA390/d4s1P2FK6ZQ/s1600/boikot+mcd+iklan.jpg>
>
> *Setelah beberapa siri bantahan dilakukan rakyat di negara ini terhadap
> produk yang dikatakan menyumbang kepada rejim Israel, kempen itu
> nampaknya semakin diperhebat dari hari ke hari.
>
> Melalui satu pesanan dan gambar yang kini menjadi viral di laman
> sosial, orang ramai diajak memboikot McDonald's bermula Jumaat ini di
> seluruh negara.
>
> Tiada maklumat setakat ini siapakah penganjur kepada kempen tersebut.
>
> "Hari Boikot McD Malaysia!!! Bermula 8 Ogos 2014 jam 7 pagi hingga 7
> pagi. Boikot McDonald's bermula Jumaat ini sehingga Zionis Israel
> seratus peratus keluar daripada Palestin," tulis pesanan itu.
>
> Pemerhatian Omak Kau mendapati rata-rata pengguna yang berkongsi perkara
> tersebut di laman sosial masing-masing menyokong kempen berkenaan.
>
> PERSOALANNYA .... apakah selepas ini rangkaian Restoran Mcdonald's akan
> berubapa wajah dan nama kepada nama yang lebih Islamik dan Melayu??????*
>
>

Wed Aug 6, 2014 8:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"-:eSpAcE9808:-" rienacom

[MENGEJUTKAN] Benarkah MH17 Itu Sebenarnya MH370 Yang Hilang?
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Posted by greenboc

Doktor Belanda yang berada di kawawan kemalangan mengeluarkan kenyataan bahawa mayat-mayat yang ditemui telah reput kerana telah mati beberapa hari sebelum nahas MH17 berlaku.

Kenyataan itu selari dengan Komander tentera pemisah pro Russia yang menyatakan bahawa sebahagian besar daripada mayat yang ditemui tidak berdarah menunjukkan mereka mati beberapa hari sebelum nahas. Terdapat juga kesan penderaan pada sesetengah mayat.

Mayat siapakah yang ditemui itu? Adakah mungkin mereka adalah penumpang MH370 yang dibunuh kejam untuk menyembunyikan peri hal sebenar?

Petunjuk daripada worldtruth.tv seperti di bawah akan menunjukkan kepada anda bahawa mayat-mayat yang ditemui di Donesk adalah penumpang MH370 -lusuka

1. The alleged MH17 was the same plane model as MH-370

The aircraft allegedly shot down over Shaktarsk is a Boeing 777-200, ID number M9-MRD.

The missing MH370 was the same model, 777-200, but with a different ID number M9-MRO.

Recent, "near conclusive" evidence reports that MH-370 (M9-MRO) was actually hijacked before it disappeared. This means that the hijackers could have safely landed the plane somewhere else.

The US military base Diego Garcia is conveniently located within flying distance of the spot where MH-370 disappeared from the radar.

One of the passengers on board MH-370, Phillip Wood, allegedly managed to send a photo from his iPhone, tracing back to the previously mentioned military base.

If the US secret services got possession of the MH-370 jet, then it was a child's play for them to set it up for a false flag operation suiting their needs. After the story of a passenger jet having been shot down by pro-Russian separatists broke loose, Russia lost a lot of credibility and support due to the US propaganda machine.

2. The crashed plane had a different configuration of windows than MH17

Unfortunately for those who staged the false flag event, the MH17 plane had an extra window (bellow) next to the second right-side door, which MH370 did not — and neither did the wreckage of the airplane!

mh17 is mh370

Jim Stone brings more photographic evidence supporting the connection between the wreckage and flight MH-370:

mh370 - flag - mh17

According to independent journalist Jim Stone, "It is important to note that MH370 [bellow] was new, and therefore never repainted. This is the way the flag ALWAYS looked on Flight 370, and it forever pegs the shoot down plane as flight 370."

MH370 photo

"Next is flight MH17. Notice the flag position, and ALSO, that MH17 has an extra window on this side of the aircraft, TOTALLY BUSTING THE OFFICIAL STORY." [1]

mh17 windows configuration doesn't match crashed plane

So, what does it all mean?

The plane wreckage shown in the propaganda pictures doesn't have the window configuration of MH17, whilst it matches the one of MH370.

The conclusion is obvious: the wreckage belongs to the 'lost' flight MH370.

3. Rebel leader describes the MH17 victims: rotten corpses, drained of blood

"A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off. (…) [People at the crash site]: 'A significant number of the bodies weren't fresh,' adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition." [2]

According to independent journalist Jim Stone:

"It is being said that a Dutch doctor who was at the scene within a day has released testimony that the bodies on the plane were rotten and dead days before the crash, which would corroborate what the military commander said and that evidence is there that they were also tortured before the crash. However, the translation from Dutch is very poor and I am working on secondary confirmation."

This means that the bodies found at the crash site in Ukraine are probably the passengers of MH370.

4. ALL the videos were created before MH17 was allegedly shot down

"A look at the time stamps for the nine versions of the video that allegedly shows a conversation between Ukrainian anti-fascists and the Russian military and uploaded to what is said to be the Ukrainian Security Service (SSU) youtube account, indicating that all the videos were created before MH17 wrecked in the afternoon 2014-07-1." [3]

Remarkable unit with timestamps confirmed by the date stamp for when the videos were uploaded to a local server contained herein.

5. MH-17 propaganda picture doesn't match the facts

According to the Daily Mail, Flight MH-17 was photographed by one of the passengers just before boarding, but the identification number doesn't macth! MH-17′s ID number is 9M-MRD (Wikipedia):

MH-17 9M-MRD - Wikipedia

The ID of the plane in the propaganda picture is 9M-MRC (Daily Mail):

MH17 wrong tale identification number

6. Flight MH17 was cancelled, according to flight radar screen

Flight Radar-24 screen capture on the day following the crash (7/18) shows MH-17, (9M-MRD) as "canceled" on the date of the crash (7/17): [4]

7. Invalid and pristine passports at the crash site

All the passports appearing in the propaganda video are in mint condition. They want us to believe that ALL passports have escaped undamaged after an airplane filled with fuel was shot down by a SAM missile — not to mention the 33,000 feet drop.

And that's not all! Many of presented passports are clearly invalid: some have been 'hole-punched' in the upper left-hand corner, while others have been 'clipped' (triangular cut-out from right-hand center front cover) – making it impossible that any of these decommissioned passports could be used to travel internationally at the flight's port of Departure in Amsterdam. [5]

8. U.S. State Department Deputy admits: MH17 'evidence' is based on YT clips & social media posts

In a testy exchange between AP reporter Matt Lee and U.S. State Department Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf, Lee virtually corners Harf into admitting that the "evidence" presented by the U.S. to blame Russian-backed rebels for the shoot down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 [now exposed as MH370] amounts to nothing more than YouTube videos and social media posts. [6]

9. Award-winning reporter blows whistle:U.S. satellite images show Ukrainian troops shooting down the plane that was presented to us as MH17

Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 [now exposed as MH370].
"What I've been told by one source, who has provided accurate information on similar matters in the past, is that U.S. intelligence agencies do have detailed satellite images of the likely missile battery that launched the fateful missile, but the battery appears to have been under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in what look like Ukrainian uniforms." [7]
10. The declassified Operation Northwoods: Disturbingly similar to MH17!

#4 Update [07.27.14]: Forbidden in the government controlled media, is mention that a SECOND aircraft was nearly on top of Malaysian flight 17 when it was supposedly shot down by a Ukranian missile in separatist hands. Who was in it? Why were they there? Why won't anyone talk about it, or question the pilots?

A clue may be found in the real-life Operation Northwoods - a declassified top-secret plan devised by the US military, to instigate and "justify" a war with Cuba. Much of Northwoods involved staged 'shootdowns&#39; of military and civilian aircraft, and faking crashes.

Operation Northwoods Exposed:

"An aircraft at [US military base] would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civilian registered aircraft.

At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases.

The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous...

From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude [in order to disappear from the radar] and go directly into an auxiliary [military base] where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status.

The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan.

When over [the target area] the drone will begin transmitting on the international distress frequency a 'MAY DAY' message stating he is under attack by [the chosen enemy]. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal.

... a pre-briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable interval between aircraft.

[After giving the distress call] the pilot would then fly at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number.

The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared.

At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down, a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-101 parts, parachute, etc. [i.e. plane parts].

Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found."

Once you know the plan, perhaps what is unfolding now will make more sense...

By Alexander Light, HumansAreFree.com; |

References:
[1] Jim Stone;
[2] Yahoo! News;
[3] Chemtrails Planet;
[4] eClinik;
[5] Humans Are Free;
[6] Info Wars;
[7] Humans Are Free

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comments:

Anonymous said...

Kita tunggu apa reaksi pelakon2 utama dan adengan seterusnya.

Anonymous said...
Bagaimana dgn penumpang mh17

Anonymous said...
Penumpang mh17 pun ada didalam bersama2. Kalau betul teori ni..najib mesti tahu punya tapi sebab rahsia konspirasi tak boleh dedahkan.

Anonymous said...
seorang ulama tersohor, saya tak ingat nama, menegaskan, di akhir zaman kita umat islam harus menyokong russia dalam peperangan berdasarkan ayat alquran. russia disebut sebagai rom dalam ayat itu.

Wed Aug 6, 2014 8:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"-:eSpAcE9808:-" rienacom


Israel Dah Tukar Barkod?
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Assalamualaikum,

ISRAEL DAH TUKAR BARKOD? | BARKOD 729 DITUKAR KE 500 DAN 871 .

Akibat rakyat Dunia yang terlalu ramai boikot produk Israel, maka mereka terpaksa mencari alternatif dengan menukar kod permulaan barkod mereka dari 729 ke 500 dan 871 pula..silap haribulan ada lagi barkod yang lain yang mereka guna.

Jadi , kita hendaklah peka dengan jenama jika barkod mereka berjaya tukar..Dalam gambar di atas dia bawah barkod tertulis 'packed in ISRAEL for Ttesco Stores Ltd',,,kena hati-hati laa beli barang kt tesco ni..dan termasuklah semua barang kt supermarket besar,,,

Sekarang ni kes dalam Malaysia sndiri,byk ayam yg dibeli kt.supermarket bukan disembelih tp ditebuk (ARTIKEL AYAM TEBUK)!!yg mengedarnye semestinyalah bukan muslim,masalahnya yang si pembeli dari supermarket ni tak ambil endah langsung pasal makanan ni,,,apa la nak jadi..

HATI-HATI ! JANGAN TERBELI AYAM YANG DITEBUK DI TESCO, GIANT, ECONSAVE DLL

depalma-sp.blogspot.

Assalamualaikum,

Masa hari raya pertama korang cek dulu tak ayam yang korang beli di pasaraya sama ada disembelih secara betul atau tak..Sebab ada famili ni beli ayam di Tesco terkena ayam yang disembelih dengan cara yang tidak mengikut hukum syarak (cara tebuk) .

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