Monday, December 28, 2009

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TZM-150cc Utk D-jual From: zarol amin
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to all members From: Resources
2b.
toyota avanza From: yusman smearre
3.
Fw: www.auto.pdniaga.com -  phone kidnap scam From: ahmad sopuan abdullah
4a.
Re: Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang ROTA From: Shahrul Izwan
5a.
Re: Perodua Alza From: Shahrul Izwan
6a.
Re: proton satria 1.5 distributor From: Shahrul Izwan

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Posted by: "zarol amin" zarol_amin@yahoo.com   zarol_amin

Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:35 pm (PST)

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to all members

Posted by: "Resources" sinaranresources@ymail.com   sinaranresources@ymail.com

Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:36 pm (PST)



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toyota avanza

Posted by: "yusman smearre" smearre00@yahoo.com   smearre00

Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:48 pm (PST)



To car dealers,
 
I'm interested to buy toyota avanza & would like to explore any special promotion..
area KL and selangor..
pls email me privately..
 
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Fw: www.auto.pdniaga.com -  phone kidnap scam

Posted by: "ahmad sopuan abdullah" asafahaha@yahoo.com.my   asafahaha

Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:48 pm (PST)





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Sent: Friday, 25 December 2009 11:53:53
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - phone kidnap scam

 
----- Original Message -----
From: "rozlan rosly" <rozlanrosly@ yahoo.com>
 
From: dramad - <dramad238@gmail. com>

 
Subject: phone kidnap scam
 
Dear all
 
I cannot stop myself from sharing this with all of you.
 
Its all started when I received a call from someone
claiming that he was from Maxis and he asked me to shutdown
my phone for 2 hours for 3g update to take place. As I was
rushing for a meeting, I did not question and shutdown my
cell phone. 
 
After 45 minutes I felt very
suspicious since the caller did not even introduce his name.
I quickly turned on my cell phone and I received several
calls from my family members and the others were from the
number that had called me earlier - 3954380.
 
I called my parents and I was shocked that they sounded
very worried asking me whether I am safe. My parents told me
that they had received a call from someone claiming that
they had me with them and asking for money to let me free.
The call was so real and my parents even heard 'my
voice' crying out loud asking for help. My parent was at
the bank waiting for next call to proceed for money
transfer. I told my parents that I am safe and asked them
to lodge a police report. 
 
Right after that I received
another call from the guy asking me to shutdown my cell
phone for another 1 hour which I refused to do and hung up.
They keep calling my cell phone until the battery had run
down. I myself lodged a police report and I was informed by
the officer that there were many such scams reported.
MOST of the cases
reported that the victim had already transferred the
money! And it is
impossible to get back the money. 
 
Be careful as this kind of scam might happened to any of
us!!! Those guys are so professional and very convincing
during calls. If you are asked to shut down your cell phone
for updates by the service provider, ASK AROUND! Your family
or friends might receive the same call.. 
 
Be Safe and Stay Alert!
 
Please pass around to your
family and friends!

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Re: Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang ROTA

Posted by: "Shahrul Izwan" Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com

Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:53 pm (PST)



salam,

pertama skali terima kasih di atas penjelasan tentang isu pewarna/emulsifier
nie..saya rasa masing2 dah terang kot..ini penjelasan saya mengenai
pendirian saya dibawah:-

1.Saya tak bersangka buruk dgn Jakim, saya cuma x percaya itu saja..setelah
sijil halal diberikan adakah pemantauan dibuat atau pihak Jakim hanya
menunggu pengguna komplen baru nak angkat punggung dari kerusi?kita kena
paham jugak perangai pihak berkuasa mesia nie camana..pengeluar dan
pengusaha apa bila dah dapat sijil halal ni wajib bagi mereka mengekalkan
kehalalan produk mereka tapi adakah mereka buat begitu dan adakah pihak yg
memantau..bukan senang kita nak cek apa menda diorang boh dlm produk mereka
tu...ambik contoh Oldtown White coffee dah la...

2.Saya bukanlah seorang yg arif bab agama dan mungkin betul jugak xdak
fatwa @ dalil yg menyatakan penyediaan makanan mestilah org Islam tapi kita
kena tau, hanya org Islam saja yg akan jaga org Islam..kalau penganut agama
lain ada ker diorang nak buat camtu?sampai makanan daging babi dlm tin pun
ada tanda halal punyala nak kaut keuntungan...apabila kepentingan bisnes
melebihi segalanya, yg lain semua ditolak ketepi..

Contoh diatas hanyalah sedikit saja dari apa yg saya penah alami dan saya
ceduk dari org lain...industri makanan ni memang ramai umat islam ceburi..so
yg sebetulnya nak carik makanan yg betul2 halal xkan menyusahkan diri
sendiri..mungkin kita kena usaha lebih sikit tapi sekurang-kurangnya kita
sudah pun berusaha utk memastikan apa yg kita ambil sentiasa halal dan
toyibba..kalau org Islam tempat kita beli makanan @ barangan masih
menggunakan menda x halal tanpa pengetahuan kita, itu antara dia dgn
Allah...



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From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of hisyam@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:33 AM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang
ROTA



Pls hide ID, tokmod.

Setahu saya E110 tu kod utk pewarna (Kuning/sunset yellow) sintetik dari
coal tar (juga ditemui dalam Coke) dan azo compound (chemical compound) .
Jajan yg warna kuning, air oren bancuh dll yg warna kuning semua ada kod
nih.. Kod lain utk warna kuning ialah E102 (kaler beza sikit), warna merah
E122, E124, E129 dll. So, soalannya: siapa yg kata E110 tu haram? Dari segi
kesihatan memang ada side effect contohnya allergy, budak2 jadi hyper aktif
dll.. tapi tak boleh di rumuskan sebagai Haram. Kita jgn tersilap dgn
emulsifier pulak.. itu dah kod lain. Yg tu mungkin ada dari sumber haiwan
atau tumbuhan.

Kita tak boleh senang2 bersangka buruk dgn JAKIM yg bertungkus lumus nak
bantu umat Islam Malaysia kenal pasti makanan halal/haram. Tambahan pulak
informasi yg kita terima tu tak tahu betul atau salah. Mungkin ada beberapa
kes penipuan sijil halal nih, tapi adakah wajar kita salahkan Jakim sekali
hadap jer.. Kalau ada kelemahan, sila datangkan bukti kukuh dan kita mintak
JAKIM perbaiki.

Satu benda lagik, mana encik Shahrul Izwan dapat fatwa yg kata salah satu
syarat halal tu mesti disediakan oleh penganut Islam? Saya tak pernah jumpak
pun.. kalau betul, boleh tak bagi sumber rujukan mengenai perkara nih? Walau
mcmana pun saya setuju kita perlu utamakan makanan/produk dari pengusaha
Muslim dan utamakanlah makanan yg menyihatkan. Setakat keropok ROTA tu tak
makan pun insyaAllah tak jadik hapa pun...

Hisyam

(saya tidak ada kaitan dgn JAKIM, pengeluar keropok ROTA, atau apa2 yg
berkepentingan. Saya hanya pengguna Islam yg concern pasal halal haram
makanan dgn cara yg selamat dan tidak menyusahkan diri)

________________________________

From: Shahrul Izwan [mailto:Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:19 PM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang
ROTA





salam,

dlm hal ini dlm Islam pun sudah diterangkan salah satu syarat halalnya
sesuatu makanan ialah ianya mesti disediakan oleh penganut agama Islam..jadi
dah terang yg keropok tu bukan keluaran syarikat muslim walaupun ada tanda
halal...

lagi satu kalau kita tgk kat astaka di pusat membeli-belah macam Tesco
umpamanya, kalau kedai yg bukan Muslim siap boh tanda halal dgn sijil
sembelihan (fotostat) sedangkan kedai yg betul2 org muslim punya x perlu ada
tanda tu...kenapa sampai camtu sekali?..

Secara peribadinya saya tak percaya kat Jakim @ badan/kompeni yg kuarkan
sijil halal nie...

________________________________

From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Abd Mutalib Hussain
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:21 AM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang
ROTA





E110 ada yang dari lemak binatang, ada yang dari tumbuh-tumbuhan.

Kalau ada HALAL tu, dari sumber tumbuhan lah agaknya.

Tapi kalau was2 baik tinggalkan.

Terima kasih.

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kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang ROTA

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--- On Thu, 12/17/09, shidi ahmad <kilik304@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: shidi ahmad <kilik304@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang ROTA
To: "aien aien" <aien_scorpion@yahoo.com>, "Saidatul Akma"
<saidatulakma@unikl.edu.my>, "nhnazri awek" <nhnazri@lemeridien.com.my>,
"ridhwan bahari" <kau_saper@yahoo.com>, "mohd fairuz"
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Husin" <deniyelhusin@yahoo.com>, "azizul karim" <akhi_asbat@yahoo.com>,
"syaloy kie" <skalator_78@yahoo.com>, "Nazri NurHazirah"
<NurHazirah.Nazri@lemeridien.com>, "masitah tahir" <cheetah285@yahoo.com>,
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<shahyda@gmail.com>, "Niza" <ida_khairuniza@yahoo.com>, "fuad"
<zeadwmp@yahoo.com>, "fatin" <fatin_nasaruddin@yahoo.com>, "kak sheeda"
<jamuloft@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:14 AM



--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Siti Fauzia A M Nottan Yones
<sitifauzia.amnyones@honda.net.my> wrote:


From: Siti Fauzia A M Nottan Yones <sitifauzia.amnyones@honda.net.my>
Subject: Fw: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang ROTA
To: nora.akashah@simedarby.com, azrina@ptac.com.my,
norhayatirais@petronas.com.my, acap7474@yahoo.com, tajul@mimet.unikl.edu.my,
kilik304@yahoo.com, as_assey@yahoo.com, mr_parleey@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 12:30 AM



Subject: kod lemak babi - dlm keropok udang ROTA









Ni...anak aku beli semalam kat Babu....belum makan lagi...check dulu....alih2.....



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Yg jelas nye.....pringles pun ader gak lemak menatang ni...kalau xcaya tgk
ader E471 kat ingredients nya tu....mmg patut lah Allah turunkan bala virus
influenza tu....
Xheran lah kalau skg ni ramai sgt samseng, yg muda, yg tua..laki..pompuan.
..sama jer.....solat yg wajib main tinggal jer..doa pun byk yg tak termakbul
ekoran makanan2 seperti ni yg jadi darah daging.......nauzubillah..
Camner nak lahirkan lebih ramai islam yg betul2 'muslim'... dari kecik dah
disuapkan dgn makanan2 mengarut ni... yg heran nya caner leh ader tanda
HALAL bg makanan2 tersebut?
Bijaknya org2 kafir memperdayakan org2 Islam hanya dgn makanan.......
Kebijaksanaan mereka xkan kekal lama...
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5a.

Re: Perodua Alza

Posted by: "Shahrul Izwan" Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com

Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:00 am (PST)



Salam,
Biasala lain org lain pengalamannya...pengalaman saya plak ialah saya penah
pakai 2 bijik Wira:-
1.Wira 1.5 Auto model 1993 - 1st car,beli 2nd tahun 2000,ingat nak beli
manual tapi kebetulan pilihan x banyak dan hanya kedai tu saja yg deal
paling Ok(time tu baru keje,so poket ketat skit),amik jugakla..sepanjang
penggunaan xdak sekali pun bagi problem kecuali bumbung naik jerawat..buat
balik bumbung tu sampai nak jual elok..
2.Wira 1.5 Auto model 2002 - beli lepas amik kembara(kembara tu lani ayah
saya guna)..masalah cuma power window jem 1X dan suis power window rosak 1X
time baru pakai..lepas tu sampai lani xdak problem...
Lain org lain nasibnya..seorang kawan saya waktu nak beliketa dia bgtau kat
saya nak amik Perdana V6 2nd..saya bgtau kat dia dgn bajet byk tu apa kata
dia amik keta impot..dia setuju lalu dia amik Sentra 2002...dan sampai lani
xputus2 Sentra dia bagi masalah...baru jap tadi ikut dia pi buat
starter...menyesal dia kata..saya pun rasa bersalah la jugak tp nak buat
camno..nasik dah jadik bubur...tapi x semestinya semua Sentra akan bagi
masalah tul tak?
Memang ada beberapa kawan saya yg mengalami masalah seperti sedara tapi bila
cek balik ianya berlaku disebabkan oleh kurangnya mentenen dan faktor
usia..sedara mungkin antara yg benar-benar sgt-sgt x bernasib baik sebab
dapat keta camtu dan ramai yg mengalami pengalaman camtu memang diorng
bersumpah x mau beli dah proton dan saya x salahkan mereka...
Utk pengetahuan 2-2 wira saya tu beli 2nd..atas sebab pengalaman tulah yg
saya x write-off Proton walaupun byk mendapat byk cerita negatif...pandangan
saya kalau kita berkemampuan beli je keta jenama luar..sekurang-kurangnya
dpt gak rasa ye tak?saya sendiri pun kalau mampu berminat gak nak pakai
3-series heheh...
________________________________

From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mohmad Abdullah
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:00 PM
To: group krerta; Shahrul Izwan
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Perodua Alza


Teringat saya masa first time pakai proton wira 1992, first day delivery
(after 3 months waiting )kat roof ada deep scratch, saya tanya salesman,
katanya "biasa la", ok syok kereta baru punya pasal, tak pa, lepas tu saya
tutup pintu belakang dari dalam , handle tercabut,..pergi servis centre dia
charge RM10 satu skru,..tak pa , syok lagi kereta baru,.. pakai 6 bulan ,
power window jem,... ketuk sikit cermin terus jatuh bawah tak boleh nak
angkat, hujat lebat pulak tu, ambik surat khabar buat cover tingkap , dah
mula tak syok,...lepas setahun, semasa corner dengar bunyi tap tap tap kat
depan, berhenti tepi , tengok corner light kat bumper tu dah
jatuh,...plastik la katakan, ..kereta hutang banyak lagi , mau tak mau kena
pakai. Lepas dua tahun, tempat minyak tak boleh bukak,..check check, cable
dah putus, bayangkan minyak habis kat jalan,..dah mula naik angin, masuk 3.5
tahun gear susah mau masuk , dah masuk pulak tak boleh tukar gear lain , dah
tak boleh tahan lagi tahun 1996 terus jual,...serik sampai sekarang dah tak
nak lagi proton ni....ini diary saya, bukan niat nak busukkan sesiapa, tapi
sekadar berkongsi . Luka lama masih berparut lagi .

Kenderaan sekarang saya beli brand new jugak , masuk hutan, sungai, kebun,
hardcore alhamdulilah dah 8 tahun ok je , mitsubishi jugak
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To: automobil@yahoogroups.com; Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com
From: sungaisiput2004@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:44:34 -0800
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Perodua Alza

ada bakat jadi ceo proton ni shahrul izwan. mesti dah studi dan pakar dengan
TPS. tps ni lebih komplek dari qc tools di syarikat electronik tu.

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From: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2009 7:22:53
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Perodua Alza

salam,
bukan mengutuk tapi mengkritik.. .itu dua perkara yg berbeza...ingat dlm
emel saya yg terdahulu saya pernah back up proton bila proton kena hentam
dlm e-grup nie...sebagaimana org British berbangga dgn keta jenama Jaguar &
Range Rover walaupun 2-2 jenama ni dah jadik milik Syarikat TATA dari
India..camtu gak la saya cuma nasib baik Proton masih kita punya...
kita perlu kritik bila berlaku sesuatu yg kita nampak x kena dan pada masa
yg sama kita keluarkan pandangan kita sendirik tentang bagaimana nak
selesaikan sesuatu masalah walaupun x semestinya pandangan kita paling
terbaik...ini namanya mengkritik..
malangnya org kita lebih byk yg mengutuk "sampai rapat ke tanah" daripada
mengkritik.. itu yg tak betul...
kalau di perhalusi emel saya di bawah,saya percaya ramai ahli e-grup akan
nampak kelemahan Proton lani...Proton mampu mengeluarkan chasis dan design
keta yg berkualiti dan kemas dlm jangkamasa yg singkat tetapi menghadapi
masalah tang koordinisasi dan teknoloji enjin...penyelesaia nnya bule baca
balik emel saya di bawah..



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From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Mat Min
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:33 AM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Perodua Alza

yang tu memang aku percaya ............ ...... bab kutuk semua pandai
............ .....

2009/12/5 fuzzy 1 <fuzzyinn@yahoo. com <mailto:fuzzyinn@yahoo.com> >


proton ni buat la lagu mana pun .. soheh kena kutuk punya ... ada jer yang
tak puas hati .. sebagai contoh tengok design toyata alpard ..besar gedabak
cam van biskut zaman dulu2 tetapi orang duk puja duk puji .. high class..
cuba la kalau proton buat design cam tu hmmmmmmmmmmmmm .. rapat ka tanah la
lemas tak bernyawa kena kutuk.

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From: MHZ <cekelatgetah@ gmail.com <mailto:cekelatgetah@gmail.com> >
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 12:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com <http://www.auto.pdniaga.com/> - Perodua
Alza

Alza ni kategori MPV gak ke? tgk gambar mcm kecik jer..

Shahrul Izwan wrote:
>
>
> dlm hal ni saya mmg bersetuju pasal komen mengenai proton dlm artikel di
> bawah...x seperti perodua,proton mempunyai masalah @ tak pandai nak plan
> produk yg nak di pasarkan..kengkadan g tu tgk seolah-olah macam syok
> sendirik jer..ikut suka ja nak boh model apa tanpa ambil kira faktor
> pembeli..ambik cth dibwah:-
> small category - Savvy
> mid small - Saga
> Mid - Waja,Gen 2, Persona,Satria Neo (berapa banyak daaa,itu x campur
> lagi ngan Saga1.6)
> Mpv - Exora (nasib baik satu jer..tu pun problem tang enjin x dak power)
> Executive - Perdana (dah lama dahhhhh..... cukup2 la tu...cik det tu pon
> dah resign)
> Proton pun nampak gayanya mempunyai masalah nak ikut perkembangan
> semasa..skang perubahan dlm dunia permotoran berlaku dgn cepat...langkah
> yg proton kena buat:-
> 1.Perbetulkan barisan produk tu,terutama tang Mid level...1 @ 2
> <mailto:level. ..1@2> model dah cukup..pilih mana yg terbaik utk di
pasarkan
> 2.percepatkan R&D dan ikut perkembangan semasa..kalau ada masalah tang
> enjin,beli je enjin dari kompeni yg lain,design chasis sendiri..Proton
> mempunyai kepakaran mereka bentuk chasis yg baik,cuma tang enjin tu saja
> bermasalah.. apa yg proton kena buat ialah design chasis sendirik,beli
> enjin dari kompeni lain yg lebih establish..xyah dah guna enjin campro
> tu...guna jer enjin Toyota misalnya..lagi best...ini akan lebih
> menjimatkan masa dan proton can focus on the thing they do best...
> 3.Dengar pendapat pengguna..ambik cth Satria Neo...design memang cantik
> tapi 2 pintu jer...pernah saya dengar pembeli bagi pendapat kat dealer
> suruh proton buat version 5 pintu ala2 Optra 5 camtu..dealer tu kata
> "dah design Satria memang camtu!!!",apa punya alasan mangkuk hayun
> sekali hampuk!!!Satria Neo tu kalau buat 5 pintu,gerenti nampak cam Audi
> A3...x sempoi ke tu?
> 4.Yg paling utama,TINGKATKAN KUALITI DAN IMPROVE DESIGN...
>
> salam..



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6a.

Re: proton satria 1.5 distributor

Posted by: "Shahrul Izwan" Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com

Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:06 am (PST)



Salam,

Distributor asal bentuk silinder @ 4 segi?kalau 4 segi maknanya keta sedara
guna elektronik distributor dan mungkin ada koil dah leaking...kalau jadik
camtu biasa kene tukar jer memang xbula buat apa2..xtau la kot ahli forum
lain ada idea @ pengalaman bule kongsi...

Kalau btk silinder mungkin koil leaking,distributor cover retak @ rotor dah
x elok...sebaiknya cek distributor cover dan rotor terlebih dahulu..kalau x
penah tukar elok la tukar..rega x mahal...kalau 2-2 masih elok cek kondisi
plug wire..kalau rasa ok jugak maknanya mungkin koil dah leaking..tu yg kite
bule dengar bunyi percikan api tu...

Kalau mampu sebaiknya amik yg baru dan ori..kalau x beli je yg recon...ikut
nasib gak kalau dpt yg elok mmg akan tahan lama...

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From: automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amiruddin Mohd Noor
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:23 PM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - proton satria 1.5 distributor

salam semua,
nak tanya pasal distributor proton satria1.5uk..
1. adakah ia sama dgn 1.6 punya? sbb kalau wira @ satria 1.5 punya die ade
wayar keluar,tp kalau yg uk punya ade 2 soket kat distributor.
2. ape jenama distributor ni. cap proton ke? atau ade company khas yg buat
3. selain dr bli yg ori @ recond boleh tak kalau kite repair. kalau boleh
ade cadangan nak hantar kat mana-mana tak. area lembah kelang.
4. kalau ade yg compatible dari model ape ye?

Sebab nyer ini da yg ke-3 distributor saya buat hal. keje jadi tersengguk2
tak kira ape gear pun. dan ade bunyi seperti percikan api kat distributor
tu.

lagi 1 nak tanya pasal clutch plate.
1. mcm mana nak rendah kan clutch pedal? jenis yg pump punye
2. bole buat sendiri@kena anta bengkel@ tak ble nak adjust da.
3. da kalau clutch rase berat macam mana nak bg ringan. saya baca ia takde
berkaitan dgn jenis clutch yg dipakai tp berkaitan dgn pressure plate.bole
tukar bende ni atau kene tukar clutch plate ajer.

sebab saya rase pedal clutch tinggi sgt dan sakit kaki bile jalan jem. saya
da cuba pusingkan skru yg tahan pedal tu kebawah tp enjin jd mengaum dan
gear tak masuk abis.

terima kasih

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