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1.: Fw: BMW new concept

Posted by: "- Upin@Ipin -" rienacom@yahoo.com.sg rienacom

Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:55 pm (PST)

BMW new concept
BMW has come up with something as strange as it is innovative ...

... a shape-shifting car covered with fabric.

Instead of steel, aluminum or even carbon fiber, the GINA Light Visionary Model has a body of seamless fabric stretched over a movable metal frame that allows the driver to change its shape at will. The car - which actually runs and drives - is a styling design headed straight for the BMW Museum in Munich and so it will never see production, but building a practical car wasn't the point.

Chris Bangle, head of design for BMW, says GINA allowed his team to "challenge existing principles and conventional processes."

"It is in the nature of such visions that they do not necessarily claim to be suitable for series production," company officials said in unveiling the car Tuesday. "Rather, they are intended to steer creativity and research into new directions."

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Posted by: "sungai siput" sungaisiput2004@yahoo.com sungaisiput2004

Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:05 am (PST)

ambil satu cabaran dalam bidang saudara ceburi. elektronik. cipta tv yang boleh dipasarkan untuk malaysia. brand malaysia. tentu tak boleh cipta macam jepun kan? cipta produk berteknologi taraf malaysia sahaja=proton.
kereta dah ada orang lain buat, dan, ramai yang komen sahaja.
tentu tak boleh. seluruh eng. wdc pun tak boleh manufacture tv malaysia. belum lagi nak dipasarkan. cabaran-cabaran.

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From: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com>
To: sungaisiput2004@yahoo.com; automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 7:11:47
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Heh saya ada cerita ke pasal TPS tu? Dok carik gak la dlm emel di bwah x der
pun..pengetahuan dlm autmobil ni pun semata mata berdasarkan minat, bukan
dari pengetahuan formal..so lebih byk menda yg saya tak tau dari tau..Cuma
bezanya setiap pandangan saya diutarakan setelah mengkaji dari semua sudut
tanpa ada berat sebelah dan lebih mengkaji apa yg tersirat dari yg
tersurat...berbeza dgn kebanyakan org lani yg pakai terima saja tanpa
menggunakan akal fikiran apa yg disumbat oleh org lain...

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ada bakat jadi ceo proton ni shahrul izwan. mesti dah studi dan pakar denga=
n TPS. tps ni lebih komplek dari qc tools di syarikat electronik tu.=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A___ _________ _________ _________ __=0AFrom: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Iz=
wan@wdc.com>=0ATo: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com=0ASent: Tuesday, 8 December 20=
09 7:22:53=0ASubject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Perodua Alza=0A=0A=C2= A0 =
=0Asalam,=0Abukan= C2=A0mengutuk tapi mengkritik.. .itu dua perkara yg berbe=
za...ingat dlm emel saya yg terdahulu saya pernah back up proton bila proto=
n kena hentam dlm e-grup nie...sebagaimana org British berbangga dgn keta j=
enama Jaguar & Range Rover walaupun 2-2 jenama ni dah jadik milik Syarikat =
TATA dari India..camtu gak la saya cuma nasib baik Proton masih kita punya.=
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nak selesaikan sesuatu masalah walaupun x semestinya pandangan kita paling =
terbaik...ini namanya mengkritik.. =0Amalangnya org kita lebih byk yg mengut=
uk "sampai rapat ke tanah" daripada mengkritik.. itu yg tak betul...=0Akala=
u di perhalusi emel saya di bawah,saya percaya ramai ahli e-grup akan nampa=
k kelemahan Proton lani...Proton mampu mengeluarkan chasis dan design keta =
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____________ _________ =0AFrom: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ =
yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mat Min=0ASent: Saturday, December 05, 2009=
9:33 AM=0ATo: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com=0ASubject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. =
com - Perodua Alza=0A=0A=C2= A0 =0Ayang tu memang aku percaya ............ .=
..... bab kutuk semua pandai ............ .....=0A=0A= 0A2009/12/ 5 fuzzy 1 <=
fuzzyinn@yahoo. com>=0A=0A=C2= A0 =0A>proton ni buat la lagu mana pun .. soh=
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ng duk puja duk puji .. high class.. cuba la kalau proton buat design cam t=
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=A0 =0A>Alza ni kategori MPV gak ke? tgk gambar mcm kecik jer..=0A>=0A> Shah=
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dan g tu tgk seolah-olah macam syok =0A>=0A>> sendirik jer..ikut suka ja na=
k boh model apa tanpa ambil kira faktor =0A>> pembeli..ambik cth dibwah:-=
=0A>> small category - Savvy=0A>> mid small - Saga=0A>> Mid - Waja,Gen 2, P=
ersona,Satria Neo (berapa banyak daaa,itu x campur =0A>> lagi ngan Saga1.6)=
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tu pon =0A>> dah resign)=0A>> Proton pun nampak gayanya mempunyai masalah n=
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laku dgn cepat...langkah =0A>> yg proton kena buat:-=0A>> 1.Perbetulkan bar=
isan produk tu,terutama tang Mid level...1 @ 2 =0A>> <mailto:level. ..1@2> =
model dah cukup..pilih mana yg terbaik utk di pasarkan=0A> > 2.percepatkan R=
&D dan ikut perkembangan semasa..kalau ada masalah tang =0A>> enjin,beli je=
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epakaran mereka bentuk chasis yg baik,cuma tang enjin tu saja =0A>> bermasa=
lah.. apa yg proton kena buat ialah design chasis sendirik,beli =0A>> enjin=
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intu jer...pernah saya dengar pembeli bagi pendapat kat dealer =0A>> suruh =
proton buat version 5 pintu ala2 Optra 5 camtu..dealer tu kata =0A>> "dah d=
esign Satria memang camtu!!!",apa punya alasan mangkuk hayun =0A>> sekali h=
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proton kena hentam dlm e-grup nie...sebagaimana org British berbangga dgn =
keta jenama Jaguar & Range Rover walaupun 2-2 jenama ni dah jadik milik=
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t; Executive - Perdana (dah lama dahhhhh..... cukup2 la tu...cik det tu pon=
<BR>> dah resign)<BR>& gt; Proton pun nampak gayanya mempunyai masalah n=
ak ikut perkembangan <BR>> semasa..skang perubahan dlm dunia permotoran =
berlaku dgn cepat...langkah <BR>> yg proton kena buat:-<BR>> 1.Perbet=
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:<A href=3D"mailto: level" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto: =
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da masalah tang <BR>> enjin,beli je enjin dari kompeni yg lain,design
chas= is sendiri..Proton <BR>> mempunyai kepakaran mereka bentuk chasis
yg bai= k,cuma tang enjin tu saja <BR>> bermasalah.. apa yg proton kena
buat ial= ah design chasis sendirik,beli <BR>> enjin dari kompeni lain yg
lebih es= tablish..xyah dah guna enjin campro <BR>> tu...guna jer enjin
Toyota mis= alnya..lagi best...ini akan lebih <BR>> menjimatkan masa dan
proton can = focus on the thing they do best...<BR>& gt; 3.Dengar pendapat
pengguna..ambi= k cth Satria Neo...design memang cantik <BR>> tapi 2
pintu jer...pernah = saya dengar pembeli bagi pendapat kat dealer <BR>>
suruh proton buat ver= sion 5 pintu ala2 Optra 5 camtu..dealer tu kata
<BR>> "dah design Satria= memang camtu!!!",apa punya alasan mangkuk
hayun <BR>> sekali hampuk!!!S= atria Neo tu kalau buat 5 pintu,gerenti
nampak cam Audi <BR>> A3...x sem= poi ke tu?<BR>> 4.Yg paling
utama,TINGKATKAN KUALITI DAN IMPROVE DESIGN...<BR> > <BR>> salam..
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