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Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"bashah" bwasi
Aku masih ingat time aku muda trang tang tang pada tahun 1992/3, Gomen announced Perodua dilancarkan. Gomen kata Perodua bukan pesaing Proton.
Yaka ? bukan pesaing ?
Dulu pada tahun 1983, Gomen jugak cakap Proton beri peluang rakyat dapat kereta kualiti pada harga murah ?
Yaka ? ada kualiti ?
Aku masih tanya Yaka? sedangkan ada yg dah Kaya dengan AP dan tax kereta yg tinggi.
Walaupun MyVi bukan yg paling murah, tapi dia membantu Perodua ke no. satu...
***
Full 6 months 2013 Top 45 All-brands Ranking Table below.
Malaysia 6 months 2013:
Pos Brand 6m 2013 % FY 2012 % Pos
1 Perodua 96,873 30.9% 189,137 30.1% 1
2 Proton 64,782 20.7% 141,121 22.5% 2
3 Toyota 43,747 14.0% 105,151 16.8% 3
4 Nissan 26,268 8.4% 36,271 5.8% 4
5 Honda 21,869 7.0% 34,950 5.6% 5
6 Mitsubishi 6,494 2.1% 11,652 1.9% 8
7 Hyundai-Inokom 5,720 1.8% 11,938 1.9% 7
8 Ford 5,228 1.7% 7,108 1.1% 12
9 Isuzu 5,006 1.6% 10,673 1.7% 9
10 Mazda 4,981 1.6% 6,332 1.0% 14
11 Volkswagen 4,293 1.4% 13,003 2.1% 6
12 Hino 3,222 1.0% 6,433 1.0% 13
13 BMW 3,074 1.0% 6,318 1.0% 15
14 Peugeot 3,014 1.0% 6,114 1.0% 16
15 Kia 2,969 0.9% 4,374 0.7% 18
16 Naza 2,626 0.8% 7,953 1.3% 11
17 Suzuki 2,436 0.8% 8,087 1.3% 10
18 Mercedes 2,339 0.7% 5,905 0.9% 17
19 Mitsubishi Fuso 1,306 0.4% 2,180 0.3% 19
20 Audi 1,279 0.4% 1,414 0.2% 24
21 Chevrolet 845 0.3% 2,026 0.3% 20
22 Daihatsu 706 0.2% 1,452 0.2% 23
23 Land Rover 529 0.2% 643 0.1% 26
24 Lexus 516 0.2% 1,471 0.2% 22
25 Chery 469 0.1% 1,636 0.3% 21
26 Subaru 433 0.1% 53 0.0% 41
27 Volvo 403 0.1% 937 0.1% 25
28 Scania 272 0.1% 466 0.1% 27
29 CAMC 212 0.1% 253 0.0% 32
30 Mini 202 0.1% 341 0.1% 29
31 Great Wall 194 0.1% 173 0.0% 35
32 Man 173 0.1% 168 0.0% 36
33 Porsche 161 0.1% 395 0.1% 28
34 Sinotruk 149 0.0% 285 0.0% 31
35 ChangAn 133 0.0% 100 0.0% 39
36 SsangYong 110 0.0% 238 0.0% 33
37 Bison 98 0.0% 305 0.0% 30
38 JBC 95 0.0% 181 0.0% 34
39 JAC 88 0.0% 134 0.0% 37
40 Auman 86 0.0% 51 0.0% 43
41 Bei Ben 28 0.0% 33 0.0% 44
42 Renault 21 0.0% 90 0.0% 40
43 BAW 20 0.0% 27 0.0% 45
44 Grand Tiger 11 0.0% 51 0.0% 42
45 Mahindra 8 0.0% 1 0.0% 46
________________________________
From: Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.com >
To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
perodua murah ke ? myvi 1.3..... lebih kurang saga FL je kot.....
tapi lebih kecil.
perodua yg bebetul murah is viva je... lain macam tak berbaloi punya harga.
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar
________________________________
From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com >
To: "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >
Cc: "bwasi@yahoo.com " <bwasi@yahoo.com >
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
Mcm artikel tu ckp..perodua aim at the lowest level / basic level of Msian consumers.
Gomen pun turut lingkupkan proton bila depa introduce Perodua..
org tamak selalu rugi....
tak perlu aku letak fakta, boleh pikir sendiri kot.....
________________________________
From: Sukri Farah <farah33sukri@gmail.com >
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
....yes still relevant.........kalau harganye relevant...
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ruslan Zakaria <zruslan@tm.com.my > wrote:
>
>Memang masih releven, Cuma mohon samakan harga seperti harga yg dieksport.
>Negara pengeluar mahal daripada Negara yg dieksport.
>
>From:automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of -:eSpAcE9808:-
>Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:55 PM
>To: zzxmelayucyber
>Subject: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
>
>
>Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
>By Naveen Victor| Motor Trader Malaysia
>
>Proton Gen 2
>Malaysia's national carmaker is finding it increasingly difficult to attract local buyers but does it mean they're in permanent decline?
>Many Malaysians have a colourful history with Proton and it has to be said not all of it's bad. When the original Proton Saga was launched on 9th July 1985 the feeling of national pride was palpable throughout the country. We had become a car-producing nation and it would be our springboard towards becoming an industrialised nation. Where are those dreams now?
>Proton Wira also known as the Persona in the UK
>
>In 2002, Proton sold 214,985 vehicles and accounted for 49.43 per cent of total vehicle sales in Malaysia. In 2012, despite Malaysia having a TIV (Total Industry Volume) of 627,753 units (up from 434,954 in 2002) Proton sold just 141,121 vehicles, which accounted for a market share of just 22.5 per cent. In contrast, Perodua sold 189,137 cars for over 30 per cent of the overall market while Toyota continued to grow with 105,151 sales. Incidentally, the Japanese brand managed just 27,355 sales in 2002 with 60 per cent of those being commercial vehicle sales.
>No matter how you look at them, the numbers make for some pretty grim reading. Despite having 28 years of history behind it Proton is still heavily reliant on the Malaysian car buyer, as export numbers remain tiny. In 2012 only about 20,000 Protons were sold outside of Malaysia in 55 countries, which makes them a tiny niche brand in most markets.
>Proton replaced its family sedan, the Proton Persona with the Prevé
>Proton is aware of its failings and to their credit, are taking considerable steps to reenergise the brand. New owners DRB-Hicom have had a monumental task to clean out old regimes and systems and plan for a better future but one wonders if they're being overly ambitious. As recently as late June 2013, Proton Chairman Tan Sri Mohd Khamil Jamil stated that their aim was to reclaim sales leadership in Malaysia within two years and sell 500,000 cars a year globally within the next five years.
>These are very aggressive numbers and despite a renewed focus on exports, one wonders if Proton will eventually lose the hearts and wallets of Malaysian buyers. Evidence of this already happening is wide spread.
>Aside from the continued strength of Perodua, the biggest threat to Proton undoubtedly comes Japanese and Korean brands. The Japanese in particular have taken ASEAN production and localisation to heart coming up with a slew of products at ever-smaller price tags. It started slow but the Nissan Almera got things really rolling in 2012 with a starting price of just over RM66,000. Then Suzuki started locally assembling the all-new Swift and its price dropped to RM65,888 while Honda shocked everyone with the RM74,800 with insurance price tag of the CKD Jazz.
>At a stroke cars from Japanese brands were now within the reach of Proton buyers and though there was a still a premium to be paid (a basic Proton Prevé manual starts at less than RM60,000) those who could afford the increased monthly payments were only too eager to jump ship. There in lies the other problem for Proton.
>Due to the favourable taxation structures previously employed, for nearly 20-years car buyers with a 'hard ceiling' of RM65,000 had little or no choice. If you wanted a new car for that money (and who wouldn't rather have new over used?) then you had to visit the Proton dealer. More often than not, the buyer also came up against a 'take it or leave it' attitude as salesmen could always find a buyer for cars in odd or unfavourable spec.
>Proton's latest family sedan, the Prevé is probably the company's most sophisticated offering yet
>
>Put those buyers into a market situation where they suddenly have options and you get an 'anything but Proton' attitude. It's not that Malaysians are anti national cars, anti-Proton or even pro-Japanese but having been force fed a steady diet of Protons and Peroduas for decades, most just want to buy from a different brand and now they have a chance to do so.
>That being the case, some may wonder why Perodua isn't in the same predicament and the simple answer is that they are in the very lowest levels of the market where cars are bought as basic transport. Its also clear Malaysians have a more favourable opinion of Perodua, which is probably due to the Toyota/Daihatsu spin-offs they sell. It's a sad admission to make but the very best Proton cars have always been those that were re-badged efforts rather than something they designed in-house.
>Proton's Saga of the future
>
>Which brings us back to the main question. Is Proton still relevant to Malaysians? For the first half of 2013, Proton sold 64,782 cars in a market that grew 4.1 per cent over the same period on 2012. There is a new Prevé hatchback due in September this year, which should help create some extra excitement for the brand but it's also clear to see sales are on downward slope. Instead of claiming market leadership in two years, we could see Proton replaced by Toyota as the second most popular brand in Malaysia. Unless something happens soon, there is no real way out of the predicament, which is a shame because back in 1985 my heart filled with Malaysian pride whenever I saw a Proton Saga.
>DISCLAIMER:
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Yaka ? bukan pesaing ?
Dulu pada tahun 1983, Gomen jugak cakap Proton beri peluang rakyat dapat kereta kualiti pada harga murah ?
Yaka ? ada kualiti ?
Aku masih tanya Yaka? sedangkan ada yg dah Kaya dengan AP dan tax kereta yg tinggi.
Walaupun MyVi bukan yg paling murah, tapi dia membantu Perodua ke no. satu...
***
Full 6 months 2013 Top 45 All-brands Ranking Table below.
Malaysia 6 months 2013:
Pos Brand 6m 2013 % FY 2012 % Pos
1 Perodua 96,873 30.9% 189,137 30.1% 1
2 Proton 64,782 20.7% 141,121 22.5% 2
3 Toyota 43,747 14.0% 105,151 16.8% 3
4 Nissan 26,268 8.4% 36,271 5.8% 4
5 Honda 21,869 7.0% 34,950 5.6% 5
6 Mitsubishi 6,494 2.1% 11,652 1.9% 8
7 Hyundai-Inokom 5,720 1.8% 11,938 1.9% 7
8 Ford 5,228 1.7% 7,108 1.1% 12
9 Isuzu 5,006 1.6% 10,673 1.7% 9
10 Mazda 4,981 1.6% 6,332 1.0% 14
11 Volkswagen 4,293 1.4% 13,003 2.1% 6
12 Hino 3,222 1.0% 6,433 1.0% 13
13 BMW 3,074 1.0% 6,318 1.0% 15
14 Peugeot 3,014 1.0% 6,114 1.0% 16
15 Kia 2,969 0.9% 4,374 0.7% 18
16 Naza 2,626 0.8% 7,953 1.3% 11
17 Suzuki 2,436 0.8% 8,087 1.3% 10
18 Mercedes 2,339 0.7% 5,905 0.9% 17
19 Mitsubishi Fuso 1,306 0.4% 2,180 0.3% 19
20 Audi 1,279 0.4% 1,414 0.2% 24
21 Chevrolet 845 0.3% 2,026 0.3% 20
22 Daihatsu 706 0.2% 1,452 0.2% 23
23 Land Rover 529 0.2% 643 0.1% 26
24 Lexus 516 0.2% 1,471 0.2% 22
25 Chery 469 0.1% 1,636 0.3% 21
26 Subaru 433 0.1% 53 0.0% 41
27 Volvo 403 0.1% 937 0.1% 25
28 Scania 272 0.1% 466 0.1% 27
29 CAMC 212 0.1% 253 0.0% 32
30 Mini 202 0.1% 341 0.1% 29
31 Great Wall 194 0.1% 173 0.0% 35
32 Man 173 0.1% 168 0.0% 36
33 Porsche 161 0.1% 395 0.1% 28
34 Sinotruk 149 0.0% 285 0.0% 31
35 ChangAn 133 0.0% 100 0.0% 39
36 SsangYong 110 0.0% 238 0.0% 33
37 Bison 98 0.0% 305 0.0% 30
38 JBC 95 0.0% 181 0.0% 34
39 JAC 88 0.0% 134 0.0% 37
40 Auman 86 0.0% 51 0.0% 43
41 Bei Ben 28 0.0% 33 0.0% 44
42 Renault 21 0.0% 90 0.0% 40
43 BAW 20 0.0% 27 0.0% 45
44 Grand Tiger 11 0.0% 51 0.0% 42
45 Mahindra 8 0.0% 1 0.0% 46
____________
From: Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.
To: "automobil@yahoogrou
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
perodua murah ke ? myvi 1.3..... lebih kurang saga FL je kot.....
tapi lebih kecil.
perodua yg bebetul murah is viva je... lain macam tak berbaloi punya harga.
rgds,
Nazri Ahtar
____________
From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.
To: "automobil@yahoogrou
Cc: "bwasi@yahoo.
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
Mcm artikel tu ckp..perodua aim at the lowest level / basic level of Msian consumers.
Gomen pun turut lingkupkan proton bila depa introduce Perodua..
org tamak selalu rugi....
tak perlu aku letak fakta, boleh pikir sendiri kot.....
____________
From: Sukri Farah <farah33sukri@
To: automobil@yahoogrou
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
....yes still relevant....
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ruslan Zakaria <zruslan@tm.com.
>
>Memang masih releven, Cuma mohon samakan harga seperti harga yg dieksport.
>Negara pengeluar mahal daripada Negara yg dieksport.
>
>From:automobil@yahoogrou
>Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:55 PM
>To: zzxmelayucyber
>Subject: www.groupautomobil.
>
>
>Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
>By Naveen Victor| Motor Trader Malaysia
>
>Proton Gen 2
>Malaysia's national carmaker is finding it increasingly difficult to attract local buyers but does it mean they're in permanent decline?
>Many Malaysians have a colourful history with Proton and it has to be said not all of it's bad. When the original Proton Saga was launched on 9th July 1985 the feeling of national pride was palpable throughout the country. We had become a car-producing nation and it would be our springboard towards becoming an industrialised nation. Where are those dreams now?
>Proton Wira also known as the Persona in the UK
>
>In 2002, Proton sold 214,985 vehicles and accounted for 49.43 per cent of total vehicle sales in Malaysia. In 2012, despite Malaysia having a TIV (Total Industry Volume) of 627,753 units (up from 434,954 in 2002) Proton sold just 141,121 vehicles, which accounted for a market share of just 22.5 per cent. In contrast, Perodua sold 189,137 cars for over 30 per cent of the overall market while Toyota continued to grow with 105,151 sales. Incidentally, the Japanese brand managed just 27,355 sales in 2002 with 60 per cent of those being commercial vehicle sales.
>No matter how you look at them, the numbers make for some pretty grim reading. Despite having 28 years of history behind it Proton is still heavily reliant on the Malaysian car buyer, as export numbers remain tiny. In 2012 only about 20,000 Protons were sold outside of Malaysia in 55 countries, which makes them a tiny niche brand in most markets.
>Proton replaced its family sedan, the Proton Persona with the Prevé
>Proton is aware of its failings and to their credit, are taking considerable steps to reenergise the brand. New owners DRB-Hicom have had a monumental task to clean out old regimes and systems and plan for a better future but one wonders if they're being overly ambitious. As recently as late June 2013, Proton Chairman Tan Sri Mohd Khamil Jamil stated that their aim was to reclaim sales leadership in Malaysia within two years and sell 500,000 cars a year globally within the next five years.
>These are very aggressive numbers and despite a renewed focus on exports, one wonders if Proton will eventually lose the hearts and wallets of Malaysian buyers. Evidence of this already happening is wide spread.
>Aside from the continued strength of Perodua, the biggest threat to Proton undoubtedly comes Japanese and Korean brands. The Japanese in particular have taken ASEAN production and localisation to heart coming up with a slew of products at ever-smaller price tags. It started slow but the Nissan Almera got things really rolling in 2012 with a starting price of just over RM66,000. Then Suzuki started locally assembling the all-new Swift and its price dropped to RM65,888 while Honda shocked everyone with the RM74,800 with insurance price tag of the CKD Jazz.
>At a stroke cars from Japanese brands were now within the reach of Proton buyers and though there was a still a premium to be paid (a basic Proton Prevé manual starts at less than RM60,000) those who could afford the increased monthly payments were only too eager to jump ship. There in lies the other problem for Proton.
>Due to the favourable taxation structures previously employed, for nearly 20-years car buyers with a 'hard ceiling' of RM65,000 had little or no choice. If you wanted a new car for that money (and who wouldn't rather have new over used?) then you had to visit the Proton dealer. More often than not, the buyer also came up against a 'take it or leave it' attitude as salesmen could always find a buyer for cars in odd or unfavourable spec.
>Proton&#
>
>Put those buyers into a market situation where they suddenly have options and you get an 'anything but Proton' attitude. It's not that Malaysians are anti national cars, anti-Proton or even pro-Japanese but having been force fed a steady diet of Protons and Peroduas for decades, most just want to buy from a different brand and now they have a chance to do so.
>That being the case, some may wonder why Perodua isn't in the same predicament and the simple answer is that they are in the very lowest levels of the market where cars are bought as basic transport. Its also clear Malaysians have a more favourable opinion of Perodua, which is probably due to the Toyota/Daihatsu spin-offs they sell. It's a sad admission to make but the very best Proton cars have always been those that were re-badged efforts rather than something they designed in-house.
>Proton&#
>
>Which brings us back to the main question. Is Proton still relevant to Malaysians? For the first half of 2013, Proton sold 64,782 cars in a market that grew 4.1 per cent over the same period on 2012. There is a new Prevé hatchback due in September this year, which should help create some extra excitement for the brand but it's also clear to see sales are on downward slope. Instead of claiming market leadership in two years, we could see Proton replaced by Toyota as the second most popular brand in Malaysia. Unless something happens soon, there is no real way out of the predicament, which is a shame because back in 1985 my heart filled with Malaysian pride whenever I saw a Proton Saga.
>DISCLAIMER:
>This e-mail and the attachment is from Telekom Malaysia Berhad (TM). It is intended solely for the person to whom they are addressed and may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, distributing, copying or taking any action in reliance of the content of this information is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail and delete it from your system. The recipient should check the e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses that could be transmitted via e-mail. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, incomplete or contain viruses. TM accepts no liability for any errors or omissions in the contents
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"lan loqius" rxzabd
To:
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
..perodua walau rege sama dan mahal......quality is better than proton....no doubt.....sy dah rase 2-2 kete..
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.
perodua murah ke ? myvi 1.3..... lebih kurang saga FL je kot.....
>tapi lebih kecil.
>
>
>perodua yg bebetul murah is viva je... lain macam tak berbaloi punya harga.
>
>rgds,
>Nazri Ahtar
>
>
>________
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo.
>To: "automobil@yahoogrou
>Cc: "bwasi@yahoo.
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:55 PM
>Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
>
>
>
>Mcm artikel tu ckp..perodua aim at the lowest level / basic level of Msian consumers.
>Gomen pun turut lingkupkan proton bila depa introduce Perodua..
>org tamak selalu rugi....
>tak perlu aku letak fakta, boleh pikir sendiri kot.....
>
>
>
>
>
>________
> From: Sukri Farah <farah33sukri@
>To: automobil@yahoogrou
>Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 12:20 PM
>Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
>
>
>
>
>....yes still relevant....
>
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ruslan Zakaria <zruslan@tm.com.
>
>
>>
>>Memang masih releven, Cuma mohon samakan harga seperti harga yg dieksport.
>>Negara pengeluar mahal daripada Negara yg dieksport.
>>
>>From:automobil@yahoogrou
>>Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:55 PM
>>To: zzxmelayucyber
>>Subject: www.groupautomobil.
>>
>>
>>Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?
>>By Naveen Victor| Motor Trader Malaysia
>>
>>Proton Gen 2
>>Malaysia's national carmaker is finding it increasingly difficult to attract local buyers but does it mean they're in permanent decline?
>>Many Malaysians have a colourful history with Proton and it has to be said not all of it's bad. When the original Proton Saga was launched on 9th July 1985 the feeling of national pride was palpable throughout the country. We had become a car-producing nation and it would be our springboard towards becoming an industrialised nation. Where are those dreams now?
>>Proton Wira also known as the Persona in the UK
>>
>>In 2002, Proton sold 214,985 vehicles and accounted for 49.43 per cent of total vehicle sales in Malaysia. In 2012, despite Malaysia having a TIV (Total Industry Volume) of 627,753 units (up from 434,954 in 2002) Proton sold just 141,121 vehicles, which accounted for a market share of just 22.5 per cent. In contrast, Perodua sold 189,137 cars for over 30 per cent of the overall market while Toyota continued to grow with 105,151 sales. Incidentally, the Japanese brand managed just 27,355 sales in 2002 with 60 per cent of those being commercial vehicle sales.
>>No matter how you look at them, the numbers make for some pretty grim reading. Despite having 28 years of history behind it Proton is still heavily reliant on the Malaysian car buyer, as export numbers remain tiny. In 2012 only about 20,000 Protons were sold outside of Malaysia in 55 countries, which makes them a tiny niche brand in most markets.
>>Proton replaced its family sedan, the Proton Persona with the Prevé
>>Proton is aware of its failings and to their credit, are taking considerable steps to reenergise the brand. New owners DRB-Hicom have had a monumental task to clean out old regimes and systems and plan for a better future but one wonders if they're being overly ambitious. As recently as late June 2013, Proton Chairman Tan Sri Mohd Khamil Jamil stated that their aim was to reclaim sales leadership in Malaysia within two years and sell 500,000 cars a year globally within the next five years.
>>These are very aggressive numbers and despite a renewed focus on exports, one wonders if Proton will eventually lose the hearts and wallets of Malaysian buyers. Evidence of this already happening is wide spread.
>>Aside from the continued strength of Perodua, the biggest threat to Proton undoubtedly comes Japanese and Korean brands. The Japanese in particular have taken ASEAN production and localisation to heart coming up with a slew of products at ever-smaller price tags. It started slow but the Nissan Almera got things really rolling in 2012 with a starting price of just over RM66,000. Then Suzuki started locally assembling the all-new Swift and its price dropped to RM65,888 while Honda shocked everyone with the RM74,800 with insurance price tag of the CKD Jazz.
>>At a stroke cars from Japanese brands were now within the reach of Proton buyers and though there was a still a premium to be paid (a basic Proton Prevé manual starts at less than RM60,000) those who could afford the increased monthly payments were only too eager to jump ship. There in lies the other problem for Proton.
>>Due to the favourable taxation structures previously employed, for nearly 20-years car buyers with a 'hard ceiling' of RM65,000 had little or no choice. If you wanted a new car for that money (and who wouldn't rather have new over used?) then you had to visit the Proton dealer. More often than not, the buyer also came up against a 'take it or leave it' attitude as salesmen could always find a buyer for cars in odd or unfavourable spec.
>>Proton&#
>>
>>Put those buyers into a market situation where they suddenly have options and you get an 'anything but Proton' attitude. It's not that Malaysians are anti national cars, anti-Proton or even pro-Japanese but having been force fed a steady diet of Protons and Peroduas for decades, most just want to buy from a different brand and now they have a chance to do so.
>>That being the case, some may wonder why Perodua isn't in the same predicament and the simple answer is that they are in the very lowest levels of the market where cars are bought as basic transport. Its also clear Malaysians have a more favourable opinion of Perodua, which is probably due to the Toyota/Daihatsu spin-offs they sell. It's a sad admission to make but the very best Proton cars have always been those that were re-badged efforts rather than something they designed in-house.
>>Proton&#
>>
>>Which brings us back to the main question. Is Proton still relevant to Malaysians? For the first half of 2013, Proton sold 64,782 cars in a market that grew 4.1 per cent over the same period on 2012. There is a new Prevé hatchback due in September this year, which should help create some extra excitement for the brand but it's also clear to see sales are on downward slope. Instead of claiming market leadership in two years, we could see Proton replaced by Toyota as the second most popular brand in Malaysia. Unless something happens soon, there is no real way out of the predicament, which is a shame because back in 1985 my heart filled with Malaysian pride whenever I saw a Proton Saga.
>>DISCLAIMER:
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Muaz CK" azz95
selama hampir 28 tahun proton tetap relevan kerana apa? kerana kereta lain
"mahal" akibat cukai terlampau dikenakan terhadap mereka.
proton 35k dikenakan cukai 10k, jadilah 45k,
kereta 40k yang lain dikenakan cukai tiga kali ganda harga asalnya, jadilah
160k. ni hanya generalisasi.
tengoklah tata nano, kenapa tak masuk malaysia, sebab harganya 8k, kalau
masuk, mau bungkus perodua. sebab kalau jual termasuk tax baru 32k.
kita tengok harga kereta2 pra-proton, 10k, 20k. datsun, mini, termasuklah
mercedes. berapa harga kereta2 ini pada era awal 80an? murah gila i tell
uuuu...
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM, lan loqius <rxzabd@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> *To:*
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 4:54 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still
> Relevant To Malaysians?
>
>
> ..perodua walau rege sama dan mahal......quality is better than
> proton....no doubt.....sy dah rase 2-2 kete..
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> perodua murah ke ? myvi 1.3..... lebih kurang saga FL je kot.....
> tapi lebih kecil.
>
> perodua yg bebetul murah is viva je... lain macam tak berbaloi punya harga.
>
> rgds,
> Nazri Ahtar
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* bashah <bwasi@yahoo.com >
> *To:* "automobil@yahoogroups.com " <automobil@yahoogroups.com >
> *Cc:* "bwasi@yahoo.com " <bwasi@yahoo.com >
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 2:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still
> Relevant To Malaysians?
>
> Mcm artikel tu ckp..perodua aim at the lowest level / basic level of Msian
> consumers.
> Gomen pun turut lingkupkan proton bila depa introduce Perodua..
> org tamak selalu rugi....
> tak perlu aku letak fakta, boleh pikir sendiri kot.....
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sukri Farah <farah33sukri@gmail.com >
> *To:* automobil@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 12:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still
> Relevant To Malaysians?
>
>
> ....yes still relevant.........kalau harganye relevant...
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ruslan Zakaria <zruslan@tm.com.my >wrote:
>
> **
>
> Memang masih releven, Cuma mohon samakan harga seperti harga yg
> dieksport.****
> Negara pengeluar mahal daripada Negara yg dieksport.****
> ** **
> *From:* automobil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:automobil@yahoogroups.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *-:eSpAcE9808:-
> *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 11:55 PM
> *To:* zzxmelayucyber
> *Subject:* www.groupautomobil.blogspot.com - Fw: Is Proton Still Relevant
> To Malaysians?****
> ** **
> ****
> ****
> *Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?*****
> [image: Motor Trader Malaysia] <http://motortrader.com.my/ >By *Naveen
> Victor* | *Motor Trader Malaysia* ****
> ****
>
> <http://my.news.yahoo.com/photos/proton-still-relevant-malaysians-photo-084644368.html >
> ****
> Proton Gen 2****
> *Malaysia�s national carmaker is finding it increasingly difficult to
> attract local buyers but does it mean they�re in permanent decline?*****
> Many Malaysians have a colourful history with Proton and it has to be said
> not all of it�s bad. When the original Proton Saga was launched on 9th July
> 1985 the feeling of national pride was palpable throughout the country. We
> had become a car-producing nation and it would be our springboard towards
> becoming an industrialised nation. Where are those dreams now?****
> <http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/w7LU3Qv_UvP5pH_d395hAg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http:/media.zenfs.com/en_MY/News/MotorTraderMalaysia/278866_201107_06_pro-20130813-085018-231.jpg >
> ****
> Proton Wira also known as the Persona in the UK****
> ****
> In 2002, Proton sold 214,985 vehicles and accounted for 49.43 per cent of
> total vehicle sales in Malaysia. In 2012, despite Malaysia having a TIV
> (Total Industry Volume) of 627,753 units (up from 434,954 in 2002) Proton
> sold just 141,121 vehicles, which accounted for a market share of just 22.5
> per cent. In contrast, Perodua sold 189,137 cars for over 30 per cent of
> the overall market while Toyota continued to grow with 105,151 sales.
> Incidentally, the Japanese brand managed just 27,355 sales in 2002 with 60
> per cent of those being commercial vehicle sales.****
> No matter how you look at them, the numbers make for some pretty grim
> reading. Despite having 28 years of history behind it Proton is still
> heavily reliant on the Malaysian car buyer, as export numbers remain tiny.
> In 2012 only about 20,000 Protons were sold outside of Malaysia in 55
> countries, which makes them a tiny niche brand in most markets.****
> <http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/CYFB8KFIzXmJojtYvSyP4g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http:/media.zenfs.com/en_MY/News/MotorTraderMalaysia/430622_63746pro-DSC_2977rt-20130813-085019-363.jpg >
> ****
> Proton replaced its family sedan, the Proton Persona with the Prev�****
> Proton is aware of its failings and to their credit, are taking
> considerable steps to reenergise the brand. New owners DRB-Hicom have had a
> monumental task to clean out old regimes and systems and plan for a better
> future but one wonders if they�re being overly ambitious. As recently as
> late June 2013, Proton Chairman Tan Sri Mohd Khamil Jamil stated that their
> aim was to reclaim sales leadership in Malaysia within two years and sell
> 500,000 cars a year globally within the next five years.****
> These are very aggressive numbers and despite a renewed focus on exports,
> one wonders if Proton will eventually lose the hearts and wallets of
> Malaysian buyers. Evidence of this already happening is wide spread.****
> Aside from the continued strength of Perodua, the biggest threat to Proton
> undoubtedly comes Japanese and Korean brands. The Japanese in particular
> have taken ASEAN production and localisation to heart coming up with a slew
> of products at ever-smaller price tags. It started slow but the Nissan
> Almera got things really rolling in 2012 with a starting price of just over
> RM66,000. Then Suzuki started locally assembling the all-new Swift and its
> price dropped to RM65,888 while Honda shocked everyone with the RM74,800
> with insurance price tag of the CKD Jazz.****
> At a stroke cars from Japanese brands were now within the reach of Proton
> buyers and though there was a still a premium to be paid (a basic Proton
> Prev� manual starts at less than RM60,000) those who could afford the
> increased monthly payments were only too eager to jump ship. There in lies
> the other problem for Proton.****
> Due to the favourable taxation structures previously employed, for nearly
> 20-years car buyers with a �hard ceiling� of RM65,000 had little or no
> choice. If you wanted a new car for that money (and who wouldn�t rather
> have new over used?) then you had to visit the Proton dealer. More often
> than not, the buyer also came up against a �take it or leave it� attitude
> as salesmen could always find a buyer for cars in odd or unfavourable spec.
> ****
> <http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/K2uC0bbbtPdOAkh3OGfOgw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http:/media.zenfs.com/en_MY/News/MotorTraderMalaysia/Screen-Shot-2013-08-06-at-3.02.35-PM-20130813-085017-736.jpg >
> ****
> Proton's latest family sedan, the Prev� is probably the company's most
> sophisticated offering yet****
> ****
> Put those buyers into a market situation where they suddenly have options
> and you get an �anything but Proton� attitude. It�s not that Malaysians are
> anti national cars, anti-Proton or even pro-Japanese but having been force
> fed a steady diet of Protons and Peroduas for decades, most just want to
> buy from a different brand and now they have a chance to do so.****
> That being the case, some may wonder why Perodua isn�t in the same
> predicament and the simple answer is that they are in the very lowest
> levels of the market where cars are bought as basic transport. Its also
> clear Malaysians have a more favourable opinion of Perodua, which is
> probably due to the Toyota/Daihatsu spin-offs they sell. It�s a sad
> admission to make but the very best Proton cars have always been those that
> were re-badged efforts rather than something they designed in-house.****
> <http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/lCIdKLhDysYvoDqNYHsanQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http:/media.zenfs.com/en_MY/News/MotorTraderMalaysia/398349_62233-c-pro-20130813-085018-736.jpg >
> ****
> Proton's Saga of the future****
> ****
> Which brings us back to the main question. Is Proton still relevant to
> Malaysians? For the first half of 2013, Proton sold 64,782 cars in a market
> that grew 4.1 per cent over the same period on 2012. There is a new Prev�
> hatchback due in September this year, which should help create some extra
> excitement for the brand but it�s also clear to see sales are on downward
> slope. Instead of claiming market leadership in two years, we could see
> Proton replaced by Toyota as the second most popular brand in Malaysia.
> Unless something happens soon, there is no real way out of the predicament,
> which is a shame because back in 1985 my heart filled with Malaysian pride
> whenever I saw a Proton Saga. ****
> ****
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"mahal" akibat cukai terlampau dikenakan terhadap mereka.
proton 35k dikenakan cukai 10k, jadilah 45k,
kereta 40k yang lain dikenakan cukai tiga kali ganda harga asalnya, jadilah
160k. ni hanya generalisasi.
tengoklah tata nano, kenapa tak masuk malaysia, sebab harganya 8k, kalau
masuk, mau bungkus perodua. sebab kalau jual termasuk tax baru 32k.
kita tengok harga kereta2 pra-proton, 10k, 20k. datsun, mini, termasuklah
mercedes. berapa harga kereta2 ini pada era awal 80an? murah gila i tell
uuuu...
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM, lan loqius <rxzabd@yahoo.
>
> **
> [image: Jaguh_Brochure1]
> Jaguh_Brochure2]
> Jaguh_Brochure6]
> Jaguh_Brochure5]
> Jaguh_Brochure3]
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> *To:*
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 4:54 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.
> Relevant To Malaysians?
>
>
> ..perodua walau rege sama dan mahal......quality is better than
> proton....no doubt.....sy dah rase 2-2 kete..
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.
>
> perodua murah ke ? myvi 1.3..... lebih kurang saga FL je kot.....
> tapi lebih kecil.
>
> perodua yg bebetul murah is viva je... lain macam tak berbaloi punya harga.
>
> rgds,
> Nazri Ahtar
>
> ------------
> *From:* bashah <bwasi@yahoo.
> *To:* "automobil@yahoogrou
> *Cc:* "bwasi@yahoo.
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 2:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.
> Relevant To Malaysians?
>
> Mcm artikel tu ckp..perodua aim at the lowest level / basic level of Msian
> consumers.
> Gomen pun turut lingkupkan proton bila depa introduce Perodua..
> org tamak selalu rugi....
> tak perlu aku letak fakta, boleh pikir sendiri kot.....
>
>
> ------------
> *From:* Sukri Farah <farah33sukri@
> *To:* automobil@yahoogrou
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 12:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: www.groupautomobil.
> Relevant To Malaysians?
>
>
> ....yes still relevant....
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ruslan Zakaria <zruslan@tm.com.
>
> **
>
> Memang masih releven, Cuma mohon samakan harga seperti harga yg
> dieksport.**
> Negara pengeluar mahal daripada Negara yg dieksport.**
> ** **
> *From:* automobil@yahoogrou
> Behalf Of *-:eSpAcE9808:
> *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 11:55 PM
> *To:* zzxmelayucyber
> *Subject:* www.groupautomobil.
> To Malaysians?*
> ** **
> ****
> ****
> *Is Proton Still Relevant To Malaysians?*
> [image: Motor Trader Malaysia] <http://motortrader.
> Victor* | *Motor Trader Malaysia* ****
> ****
>
> <http://my.news.
> ****
> Proton Gen 2****
> *Malaysia�s national carmaker is finding it increasingly difficult to
> attract local buyers but does it mean they�re in permanent decline?****
> Many Malaysians have a colourful history with Proton and it has to be said
> not all of it�s bad. When the original Proton Saga was launched on 9th July
> 1985 the feeling of national pride was palpable throughout the country. We
> had become a car-producing nation and it would be our springboard towards
> becoming an industrialised nation. Where are those dreams now?****
> <http://l1.yimg.
> ****
> Proton Wira also known as the Persona in the UK****
> ****
> In 2002, Proton sold 214,985 vehicles and accounted for 49.43 per cent of
> total vehicle sales in Malaysia. In 2012, despite Malaysia having a TIV
> (Total Industry Volume) of 627,753 units (up from 434,954 in 2002) Proton
> sold just 141,121 vehicles, which accounted for a market share of just 22.5
> per cent. In contrast, Perodua sold 189,137 cars for over 30 per cent of
> the overall market while Toyota continued to grow with 105,151 sales.
> Incidentally, the Japanese brand managed just 27,355 sales in 2002 with 60
> per cent of those being commercial vehicle sales.****
> No matter how you look at them, the numbers make for some pretty grim
> reading. Despite having 28 years of history behind it Proton is still
> heavily reliant on the Malaysian car buyer, as export numbers remain tiny.
> In 2012 only about 20,000 Protons were sold outside of Malaysia in 55
> countries, which makes them a tiny niche brand in most markets.****
> <http://l.yimg.
> ****
> Proton replaced its family sedan, the Proton Persona with the Prev�****
> Proton is aware of its failings and to their credit, are taking
> considerable steps to reenergise the brand. New owners DRB-Hicom have had a
> monumental task to clean out old regimes and systems and plan for a better
> future but one wonders if they�re being overly ambitious. As recently as
> late June 2013, Proton Chairman Tan Sri Mohd Khamil Jamil stated that their
> aim was to reclaim sales leadership in Malaysia within two years and sell
> 500,000 cars a year globally within the next five years.****
> These are very aggressive numbers and despite a renewed focus on exports,
> one wonders if Proton will eventually lose the hearts and wallets of
> Malaysian buyers. Evidence of this already happening is wide spread.****
> Aside from the continued strength of Perodua, the biggest threat to Proton
> undoubtedly comes Japanese and Korean brands. The Japanese in particular
> have taken ASEAN production and localisation to heart coming up with a slew
> of products at ever-smaller price tags. It started slow but the Nissan
> Almera got things really rolling in 2012 with a starting price of just over
> RM66,000. Then Suzuki started locally assembling the all-new Swift and its
> price dropped to RM65,888 while Honda shocked everyone with the RM74,800
> with insurance price tag of the CKD Jazz.****
> At a stroke cars from Japanese brands were now within the reach of Proton
> buyers and though there was a still a premium to be paid (a basic Proton
> Prev� manual starts at less than RM60,000) those who could afford the
> increased monthly payments were only too eager to jump ship. There in lies
> the other problem for Proton.****
> Due to the favourable taxation structures previously employed, for nearly
> 20-years car buyers with a �hard ceiling� of RM65,000 had little or no
> choice. If you wanted a new car for that money (and who wouldn�t rather
> have new over used?) then you had to visit the Proton dealer. More often
> than not, the buyer also came up against a �take it or leave it� attitude
> as salesmen could always find a buyer for cars in odd or unfavourable spec.
> ****
> <http://l3.yimg.
> ****
> Proton's latest family sedan, the Prev� is probably the company'
> sophisticated offering yet****
> ****
> Put those buyers into a market situation where they suddenly have options
> and you get an �anything but Proton� attitude. It�s not that Malaysians are
> anti national cars, anti-Proton or even pro-Japanese but having been force
> fed a steady diet of Protons and Peroduas for decades, most just want to
> buy from a different brand and now they have a chance to do so.****
> That being the case, some may wonder why Perodua isn�t in the same
> predicament and the simple answer is that they are in the very lowest
> levels of the market where cars are bought as basic transport. Its also
> clear Malaysians have a more favourable opinion of Perodua, which is
> probably due to the Toyota/Daihatsu spin-offs they sell. It�s a sad
> admission to make but the very best Proton cars have always been those that
> were re-badged efforts rather than something they designed in-house.***
> <http://l1.yimg.
> ****
> Proton's Saga of the future****
> ****
> Which brings us back to the main question. Is Proton still relevant to
> Malaysians? For the first half of 2013, Proton sold 64,782 cars in a market
> that grew 4.1 per cent over the same period on 2012. There is a new Prev�
> hatchback due in September this year, which should help create some extra
> excitement for the brand but it�s also clear to see sales are on downward
> slope. Instead of claiming market leadership in two years, we could see
> Proton replaced by Toyota as the second most popular brand in Malaysia.
> Unless something happens soon, there is no real way out of the predicament,
> which is a shame because back in 1985 my heart filled with Malaysian pride
> whenever I saw a Proton Saga. ****
> ****
> DISCLAIMER:
> This e-mail and the attachment is from Telekom Malaysia Berhad (TM). It is
> intended solely for the person to whom they are addressed and may be
> confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> notified that disclosing, distributing, copying or taking any action in
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> notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail and delete
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> transmission. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail
> that does not relate to the official business of TM shall be understood as
> neither given nor endorsed by TM.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"ML" budubedet
Salammmm
Cerita basi ni dah dpt beberapa tahun lepas, dan telah disahkan hoax..
... Rerajin a cari kat internet :-)
On 26 Aug, 2013, at 9:45 AM, MHZ <cekelatgetah@gmail.com > wrote:
> Salam.. kalau betul cerita ni, pihak polis perlu bagi amaran kepada awam secara official.. kalau tak org awan akan konfius kabar angin ni betul atau tak.
> On 26/08/2013 12:25 AM, -:eSpAcE9808:- wrote:
>>
>>
>> Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!
>>
>> telokbakong.blogspot.
>> btmmari.blogspot.
>> Written By canang
>>
>> <mime-attachment.jpg>
>> Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!
>> Sila share kan sebanyak mungkin untuk kebaikan bersama.
>>
>> Ini telah dihantar asalnya oleh seorang anggota polis Malaysia pada FB.
>> Berkongsilah dengan semua orang yang anda tahu, terutamanya isteri,
>> adik-beradik anda, kawan-kawan perempuan dan rakan-rakan.
>>
>> Di stesen minyak, akan seorang lelaki datang dan memperkenalkan diri beliau
>> sebagai pelukis kepada wanita untuk menawarkan perkhidmatan mengisi petrol
>> ke dalam kereta wanita itu dan meninggalkan biznes kad. Beliau tidak berkata
>> apa-apa tetapi menerima kad beliau kerana kebaikan lelaki itu dan terus masuk
>> ke dalam kereta. Lelaki itu kemudian masuk kedalam kereta yang dipandu oleh
>> orang lain.
>>
>> Apabila wanita meninggalkan stesen minyak, dia melihat lelaki tersebut keluar
>> dari stesen itu stesen pada masa yang sama. Hampir serta-merta, dia mula berasa
>> pening dan tidak dapat manarik nafas dengan sempurna. Dia cuba untuk membuka
>> tingkap dan menyedari bahawa bau adalah pada tangannya; tangan yang sama
>> digunakan menerima kad dari orang di stesen minyak semasa menerima
>> perkhidmatan dari lelaki tadi.
>
Cerita basi ni dah dpt beberapa tahun lepas, dan telah disahkan hoax..
... Rerajin a cari kat internet :-)
On 26 Aug, 2013, at 9:45 AM, MHZ <cekelatgetah@
> Salam.. kalau betul cerita ni, pihak polis perlu bagi amaran kepada awam secara official.. kalau tak org awan akan konfius kabar angin ni betul atau tak.
> On 26/08/2013 12:25 AM, -:eSpAcE9808:
>>
>>
>> Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!
>>
>> telokbakong.
>> btmmari.blogspot.
>> Written By canang
>>
>> <mime-attachment
>> Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!
>> Sila share kan sebanyak mungkin untuk kebaikan bersama.
>>
>> Ini telah dihantar asalnya oleh seorang anggota polis Malaysia pada FB.
>> Berkongsilah dengan semua orang yang anda tahu, terutamanya isteri,
>> adik-beradik anda, kawan-kawan perempuan dan rakan-rakan.
>>
>> Di stesen minyak, akan seorang lelaki datang dan memperkenalkan diri beliau
>> sebagai pelukis kepada wanita untuk menawarkan perkhidmatan mengisi petrol
>> ke dalam kereta wanita itu dan meninggalkan biznes kad. Beliau tidak berkata
>> apa-apa tetapi menerima kad beliau kerana kebaikan lelaki itu dan terus masuk
>> ke dalam kereta. Lelaki itu kemudian masuk kedalam kereta yang dipandu oleh
>> orang lain.
>>
>> Apabila wanita meninggalkan stesen minyak, dia melihat lelaki tersebut keluar
>> dari stesen itu stesen pada masa yang sama. Hampir serta-merta, dia mula berasa
>> pening dan tidak dapat manarik nafas dengan sempurna. Dia cuba untuk membuka
>> tingkap dan menyedari bahawa bau adalah pada tangannya; tangan yang sama
>> digunakan menerima kad dari orang di stesen minyak semasa menerima
>> perkhidmatan dari lelaki tadi.
>
Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"MHZ" mohamad_hadi
Terima kasih bro..
On 27/08/2013 2:48 PM, ML wrote:
> Salammmm
>
> Cerita basi ni dah dpt beberapa tahun lepas, dan telah disahkan hoax..
>
> ... Rerajin a cari kat internet :-)
>
>
> On 26 Aug, 2013, at 9:45 AM, MHZ <cekelatgetah@gmail.com
> <mailto:cekelatgetah@gmail.com >> wrote:
>
>> Salam.. kalau betul cerita ni, pihak polis perlu bagi amaran kepada
>> awam secara official.. kalau tak org awan akan konfius kabar angin ni
>> betul atau tak.
>> On 26/08/2013 12:25 AM, -:eSpAcE9808:- wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!_
>>>
>>> telokbakong.blogspot.
>>> btmmari.blogspot.
>>> Written By canang
>>>
>>> <mime-attachment.jpg>
>>> <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-af9o6xK1Qwg/UhVN56A3oHI/AAAAAAAA1t8/ThG2-zkCNUk/s1600/19_1364127214.jpg >
>>> Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!
>>> Sila share kan sebanyak mungkin untuk kebaikan bersama.
>>> Ini telah dihantar asalnya oleh seorang anggota polis Malaysia pada FB.
>>> Berkongsilah dengan semua orang yang anda tahu, terutamanya isteri,
>>> adik-beradik anda, kawan-kawan perempuan dan rakan-rakan.
>>> Di stesen minyak, akan seorang lelaki datang dan memperkenalkan diri
>>> beliau
>>> sebagai pelukis kepada wanita untuk menawarkan perkhidmatan mengisi
>>> petrol
>>> ke dalam kereta wanita itu dan meninggalkan biznes kad. Beliau tidak
>>> berkata
>>> apa-apa tetapi menerima kad beliau kerana kebaikan lelaki itu dan
>>> terus masuk
>>> ke dalam kereta. Lelaki itu kemudian masuk kedalam kereta yang
>>> dipandu oleh
>>> orang lain.
>>> Apabila wanita meninggalkan stesen minyak, dia melihat lelaki
>>> tersebut keluar
>>> dari stesen itu stesen pada masa yang sama. Hampir serta-merta, dia
>>> mula berasa
>>> pening dan tidak dapat manarik nafas dengan sempurna. Dia cuba untuk
>>> membuka
>>> tingkap dan menyedari bahawa bau adalah pada tangannya; tangan yang
>>> sama
>>> digunakan menerima kad dari orang di stesen minyak semasa menerima
>>> perkhidmatan dari lelaki tadi.
>>
>
On 27/08/2013 2:48 PM, ML wrote:
> Salammmm
>
> Cerita basi ni dah dpt beberapa tahun lepas, dan telah disahkan hoax..
>
> ... Rerajin a cari kat internet :-)
>
>
> On 26 Aug, 2013, at 9:45 AM, MHZ <cekelatgetah@
> <mailto:cekelatgetah@
>
>> Salam.. kalau betul cerita ni, pihak polis perlu bagi amaran kepada
>> awam secara official.. kalau tak org awan akan konfius kabar angin ni
>> betul atau tak.
>> On 26/08/2013 12:25 AM, -:eSpAcE9808:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!_
>>>
>>> telokbakong.
>>> btmmari.blogspot.
>>> Written By canang
>>>
>>> <mime-attachment
>>> <http://3.bp.
>>> Berhati-hati dengan jenayah terbaru di Malaysia!
>>> Sila share kan sebanyak mungkin untuk kebaikan bersama.
>>> Ini telah dihantar asalnya oleh seorang anggota polis Malaysia pada FB.
>>> Berkongsilah dengan semua orang yang anda tahu, terutamanya isteri,
>>> adik-beradik anda, kawan-kawan perempuan dan rakan-rakan.
>>> Di stesen minyak, akan seorang lelaki datang dan memperkenalkan diri
>>> beliau
>>> sebagai pelukis kepada wanita untuk menawarkan perkhidmatan mengisi
>>> petrol
>>> ke dalam kereta wanita itu dan meninggalkan biznes kad. Beliau tidak
>>> berkata
>>> apa-apa tetapi menerima kad beliau kerana kebaikan lelaki itu dan
>>> terus masuk
>>> ke dalam kereta. Lelaki itu kemudian masuk kedalam kereta yang
>>> dipandu oleh
>>> orang lain.
>>> Apabila wanita meninggalkan stesen minyak, dia melihat lelaki
>>> tersebut keluar
>>> dari stesen itu stesen pada masa yang sama. Hampir serta-merta, dia
>>> mula berasa
>>> pening dan tidak dapat manarik nafas dengan sempurna. Dia cuba untuk
>>> membuka
>>> tingkap dan menyedari bahawa bau adalah pada tangannya; tangan yang
>>> sama
>>> digunakan menerima kad dari orang di stesen minyak semasa menerima
>>> perkhidmatan dari lelaki tadi.
>>
>
Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Fhazly Yusop" neoli18
Sangat setuju.
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BUKIT JENUN – Mai pakat
tolong keluarga nie sat... YB, Pej. Zakat & JKM pun jika sudi boleh
juga..!!!
Posted by Kedah Lanie
Suami rayu bantuan kewangan
Wartawan Sinar Harian
Md Nayan (kiri) menunjukkan bil hospital yang perlu
diserahkan ketika membuat bayaran. Nor Hamiza pula menunjukkan keadaan ibu
angkatnya yang perlu diberi rawatan dialisis tiga kali
seminggu.
BUKIT JENUN – 'Saya tak mampu bayar bil
hospital,' begitulah luahan seorang suami yang gagal menjelaskan bil rawatan
isterinya yang menghidap penyakit buah pinggang akibat kesempitan
hidup.
Md Nayan Said, 63, berkata, sebelum ini dia pernah memohon bantuan
daripada Jabatan Kebajikan Masyarakat (JKM) namun gagal mendapat maklum
balas.
Menurutnya, isterinya, Sharifah Long, 61, mula sakit sejak
November tahun lalu dan perlu berulang alik tiga kali seminggu ke Hospital
Sultanah Bahiyah (HSB) Alor Setar untuk melakukan dialisis.
"Kesempitan
hidup menyebabkan bil yang dikenakan sepanjang tiga minggu mendapatkan rawatan
di wad gagal dijelaskan.
"Bayaran pertama
sebanyak RM26 gagal dijelaskan dan bil kedua semasa isteri saya mendapatkan
rawatan dua minggu di situ dengan jumlah yang masih belum dimaklumkan juga tidak
dijelaskan.
"Kerana saya memaklumkan kepada pihak hospital bahawa saya
tidak mampu nak bayar walaupun dengan harga murah, saya diberi tempoh seminggu
bagi menjelaskan semua bayaran itu," katanya yang tinggal di Kampung Kilang
Kecik di sini.
Md Nayan berkata, dia juga tidak mampu menyara keperluan
keluarga.
Dia hanya mengambil upah menoreh getah bersama anak sulungnya
dengan memperoleh sumber pendapatan tiga hari sebanyak RM20 setelah dibahagi
sama banyak.
"Kadang-kala saya tidak boleh bekerja kerana mengalami
masalah kesihatan.
"Pernah juga bekalan elektrik dan air dipotong kerana
bil tertunggak," katanya.
Dia berkata, pendapatan yang diperoleh
digunakan untuk membayar kos pengangkutan membawa isterinya ke HSB sebanyak RM20
setiap kali pergi.
"Saya mempunyai dua anak lelaki namun masing-masing
bekerja di kilang dan menjadi penoreh sahaja dengan pendapatan
rendah.
"Ia cukup untuk menampung keperluan anak dan keluarga mereka
sahaja," katanya.
Sementara itu, anak angkatnya, Nor Hamiza Che Ahmad,
21, berkata, dia telah membuat permohonan kepada JKM dan pejabat
zakat.
"JKM tiada maklum balas manakala pihak zakat pula memaklumkan
bahawa borang permohonan tiada dalam rekod.
"Saya telah menghantar
permohonan bersama laporan kesihatan ibu yang diambil di HSP dengan bayaran
sebanyak RM40.
"Saya tiada wang nak beli semula laporan kesihatan itu
memandangkan terpaksa mengambil masa dua bulan untuk disiapkan,"
katanya.
Nor Hamiza berkata, masalah itu turut dirujuk kepada wakil
rakyat kawasan beberapa hari lepas namun masih tiada apa-apa maklum
balas.
"Saya sendiri tidak boleh membantu dalam sumber kewangan kerana
tidak bekerja dan mengalami kecacatan fizikal (OKU).
"Saya berhenti kerja
kerana kecacatan pada bahagian kaki, saya tidak dapat berdiri lama dan
kerap jatuh di tempat kerja.
Katanya, dia tidak dapat membantu keluarga
dari segi kewangan namun hanya mampu membantu menjaga mereka di rumah tetapi
tidak boleh membuat kerja-kerja berat dan lasak.
Dalam pada itu, Sinar
Harian turut menghubungi JKM Pendang namun gagal mendapat maklum balas berikutan
dimaklumkan bahawa pegawai terbabit tiada di pejabat kerana menghadiri
mesyuarat.
____________
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To: Automobil <automobil@yahoogrou
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: www.groupautomobil.
Potong jer gaji pegawai zakat Dan pegawai kebajikan yg terbabit.. Apa ni kerja Tak amanah gaji ambik tiap2 bulan ..
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 23:50:59 +0800
To: zzxmelayucyber<melayucyber@
ReplyTo: automobil@yahoogrou
Subject: www.groupautomobil.
BUKIT JENUN – Mai pakat
tolong keluarga nie sat... YB, Pej. Zakat & JKM pun jika sudi boleh
juga..!!!
Posted by Kedah Lanie
Suami rayu bantuan kewangan
Wartawan Sinar Harian
Md Nayan (kiri) menunjukkan bil hospital yang perlu
diserahkan ketika membuat bayaran. Nor Hamiza pula menunjukkan keadaan ibu
angkatnya yang perlu diberi rawatan dialisis tiga kali
seminggu.
BUKIT JENUN – 'Saya tak mampu bayar bil
hospital,' begitulah luahan seorang suami yang gagal menjelaskan bil rawatan
isterinya yang menghidap penyakit buah pinggang akibat kesempitan
hidup.
Md Nayan Said, 63, berkata, sebelum ini dia pernah memohon bantuan
daripada Jabatan Kebajikan Masyarakat (JKM) namun gagal mendapat maklum
balas.
Menurutnya, isterinya, Sharifah Long, 61, mula sakit sejak
November tahun lalu dan perlu berulang alik tiga kali seminggu ke Hospital
Sultanah Bahiyah (HSB) Alor Setar untuk melakukan dialisis.
"Kesempitan
hidup menyebabkan bil yang dikenakan sepanjang tiga minggu mendapatkan rawatan
di wad gagal dijelaskan.
"Bayaran pertama
sebanyak RM26 gagal dijelaskan dan bil kedua semasa isteri saya mendapatkan
rawatan dua minggu di situ dengan jumlah yang masih belum dimaklumkan juga tidak
dijelaskan.
"Kerana saya memaklumkan kepada pihak hospital bahawa saya
tidak mampu nak bayar walaupun dengan harga murah, saya diberi tempoh seminggu
bagi menjelaskan semua bayaran itu," katanya yang tinggal di Kampung Kilang
Kecik di sini.
Md Nayan berkata, dia juga tidak mampu menyara keperluan
keluarga.
Dia hanya mengambil upah menoreh getah bersama anak sulungnya
dengan memperoleh sumber pendapatan tiga hari sebanyak RM20 setelah dibahagi
sama banyak.
"Kadang-kala saya tidak boleh bekerja kerana mengalami
masalah kesihatan.
"Pernah juga bekalan elektrik dan air dipotong kerana
bil tertunggak," katanya.
Dia berkata, pendapatan yang diperoleh
digunakan untuk membayar kos pengangkutan membawa isterinya ke HSB sebanyak RM20
setiap kali pergi.
"Saya mempunyai dua anak lelaki namun masing-masing
bekerja di kilang dan menjadi penoreh sahaja dengan pendapatan
rendah.
"Ia cukup untuk menampung keperluan anak dan keluarga mereka
sahaja," katanya.
Sementara itu, anak angkatnya, Nor Hamiza Che Ahmad,
21, berkata, dia telah membuat permohonan kepada JKM dan pejabat
zakat.
"JKM tiada maklum balas manakala pihak zakat pula memaklumkan
bahawa borang permohonan tiada dalam rekod.
"Saya telah menghantar
permohonan bersama laporan kesihatan ibu yang diambil di HSP dengan bayaran
sebanyak RM40.
"Saya tiada wang nak beli semula laporan kesihatan itu
memandangkan terpaksa mengambil masa dua bulan untuk disiapkan,"
katanya.
Nor Hamiza berkata, masalah itu turut dirujuk kepada wakil
rakyat kawasan beberapa hari lepas namun masih tiada apa-apa maklum
balas.
"Saya sendiri tidak boleh membantu dalam sumber kewangan kerana
tidak bekerja dan mengalami kecacatan fizikal (OKU).
"Saya berhenti kerja
kerana kecacatan pada bahagian kaki, saya tidak dapat berdiri lama dan
kerap jatuh di tempat kerja.
Katanya, dia tidak dapat membantu keluarga
dari segi kewangan namun hanya mampu membantu menjaga mereka di rumah tetapi
tidak boleh membuat kerja-kerja berat dan lasak.
Dalam pada itu, Sinar
Harian turut menghubungi JKM Pendang namun gagal mendapat maklum balas berikutan
dimaklumkan bahawa pegawai terbabit tiada di pejabat kerana menghadiri
mesyuarat.
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