Tuesday, September 8, 2009

www.auto.pdniaga.com - Digest Number 2440[10 Attachments]

Messages In This Digest (7 Messages)

1a.
Hati-hati Dgn Kaki Kencing From: dizay rahman
1b.
Re: Hati-hati Dgn Kaki Kencing From: hisyam@yahoogroups.com
2.
Another Perodua MPV (Spyshot) From: Harris Bin Haron
3a.
Re: RON 95 dan RON 97:: From: MHZ
3b.
Re: RON 95 dan RON 97:: From: Nazri Ahtar
4a.
Re: Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora From: mohdmat
4b.
Re: Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora From: Nazri Ahtar

Messages

1a.

Hati-hati Dgn Kaki Kencing

Posted by: "dizay rahman" dizay164@yahoo.com

Mon Sep 7, 2009 5:47 pm (PDT)



Hati2 dengan iklan seperti ini.
 
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:06:26 +0800
 From: dizay164@yahoo.com
 To: calvinmarz@hotmail.com
 Subject: Reply: Honda civic type-r
 
Hi ,
My car is in excellent condition and was never involved in any accidents , has no scratches , no problems . Now i have the car with me in Italy ,where i moved with my job . I bought the car 6 months ago from Malaysia where I worked at that time . The car is registered in Malaysia and i think it is easier and better to sell it in Malaysia . I can not use it here in Italy, because I must have a car with the steering wheel on the left side.If you are really interested to buy my car please e-mail me and we will find an way to make a deal .
Thank you  !

The ad can be viewed at http://www.mudah.my/vi/3695586.htm
 
 
Daripada: Eric Laborelli <ercilab@googlemail.com>
Subjek: Re: Reply: Honda Accord i-Vtec 2.0
Kepada: "yazid" <dizay164@yahoo.com>
Tarikh: Selasa, 18 Ogos, 2009, 7:08 PM
Hi there,
From the beginning I'm telling you that I am in Italy and the car is here with me. The car is in perfect condition, no damage, 100% accident free. It is still registered in Malaysia. The reason why I am selling the car is because I worked in Malaysia as a consultant inspector for the Department of Health for a few years in exchange of experience and shipped the car in Italy trying to matriculate it here, but the costs are to high for me. If you are still interested please e-mail and and I will get back to you with more details.

Thank you !

PS: The price is RM67500 and it is negotiable !
The ad can be viewed at http://www.mudah.my/vi/3668160.htm
 

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1b.

Re: Hati-hati Dgn Kaki Kencing

Posted by: "hisyam@yahoogroups.com" hisyam@yahoogroups.com   hisyam_ahmad

Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:09 pm (PDT)



Hide ID tokmod.

Memang dalam Mudah.my tu macam2 sindiket ada.. kena hati2. kalau nak
beli barang disitu baik COD jer.. jgn la nak pos2 atau bank transfer
sebelum dapat barang...

Hisyam

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From: dizay rahman [mailto:dizay164@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:30 AM
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Hati-hati Dgn Kaki Kencing

Hati2 dengan iklan seperti ini.

Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:06:26 +0800
From: dizay164@yahoo.com
To: calvinmarz@hotmail.com
Subject: Reply: Honda civic type-r

Hi ,
My car is in excellent condition and was never involved in any accidents
, has no scratches , no problems . Now i have the car with me in Italy
,where i moved with my job . I bought the car 6 months ago from Malaysia
where I worked at that time . The car is registered in Malaysia and i
think it is easier and better to sell it in Malaysia . I can not use it
here in Italy, because I must have a car with the steering wheel on the
left side.If you are really interested to buy my car please e-mail me
and we will find an way to make a deal .
Thank you !

The ad can be viewed at http://www.mudah.my/vi/3695586.htm
<http://www.mudah.my/vi/3695586.htm>

Daripada: Eric Laborelli <ercilab@googlemail.com
<http://my.mc543.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ercilab@googlemail.com> >
Subjek: Re: Reply: Honda Accord i-Vtec 2.0
Kepada: "yazid" <dizay164@yahoo.com
<http://my.mc543.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dizay164@yahoo.com> >
Tarikh: Selasa, 18 Ogos, 2009, 7:08 PM

Hi there,
From the beginning I'm telling you that I am in Italy and the car is
here with me. The car is in perfect condition, no damage, 100% accident
free. It is still registered in Malaysia. The reason why I am selling
the car is because I worked in Malaysia as a consultant inspector for
the Department of Health for a few years in exchange of experience and
shipped the car in Italy trying to matriculate it here, but the costs
are to high for me. If you are still interested please e-mail and and I
will get back to you with more details.

Thank you !

PS: The price is RM67500 and it is negotiable !

The ad can be viewed at http://www.mudah.my/vi/3668160.htm
<http://www.mudah.my/vi/3668160.htm>

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2.

Another Perodua MPV (Spyshot)

Posted by: "Harris Bin Haron" Harris@maa.com.my

Mon Sep 7, 2009 9:13 pm (PDT)

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3a.

Re: RON 95 dan RON 97::

Posted by: "MHZ" cekelatgetah@gmail.com   mohamad_hadi

Mon Sep 7, 2009 9:13 pm (PDT)



tu sebab kau tak belajar "math & science in english".. hau hau hau!!!
jangan marah bro shamsul..aku gurau aje..

Shamsul Bakri wrote:
>
>
>
> kenapa 2% oktana boleh jadi RM0.25 (25sen) perbezaan. Rm1.80/95% =
> 1.9 sen/%. kalu naik 2% oktana baru 4sen. Tu yang aku tak paham naper
> naik sampai 25sen.
>

3b.

Re: RON 95 dan RON 97::

Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com   littlenoti

Mon Sep 7, 2009 11:49 pm (PDT)



ron97 dikurangkan lagi jumlah subsidi dek kerajaan. diaorang tumpukan pada ron95. dan V-Power dah float. tak ada subsidi...ini yang saya faham la....

rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

________________________________
From: MHZ <cekelatgetah@gmail.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:01:42 AM
Subject:Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - RON 95 dan RON 97::

tu sebab kau tak belajar "math & science in english".. hau hau hau!!!
jangan marah bro shamsul..aku gurau aje..

Shamsul Bakri wrote:
>
>
>
> kenapa 2% oktana boleh jadi RM0.25 (25sen) perbezaan. Rm1.80/95% =
> 1.9 sen/%. kalu naik 2% oktana baru 4sen. Tu yang aku tak paham naper
> naik sampai 25sen.
>

4a.

Re: Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora

Posted by: "mohdmat" kedai_tayar@yahoo.com   kedai_tayar

Mon Sep 7, 2009 10:36 pm (PDT)



"in term of gearbox, its better to have fewer gear ratio that is well matched to the engine rather than lots of gear ratio tapi langsung x match..."
- brader mana dapat statement ni. tujuan gearbox ialah utk increase gear ratio. lagi banyak gear ratio lagi bagus sbb engine deliver at optimum torque/rpm. that;s why now most manuf tned to go to CVT.

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com> wrote:

From: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@wdc.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 5:08 PM

 

hah kepada yg bertanya ada lagi byk pilihan yg dah disenaraikan. .cuma perlu tunggu saja..tapi macam saya sebut dlm emel terdahulu,kalau dah memang nak tukar sgt2 dah bule la go ahead samada exora @ eastar(tambah lagi satu livina kalau bajet bule stretch)...
 
semua mpv x kire la model apa memang akan lebih makan minyak kalau compare ngan sedan yg menggunakan enjin yg sama sebab body lagi berat dan kurang aerodynamic. .so kita kena compare between mpv,x bule compare between mpv n sedan...fuel consumption figures yg dikeluarkan oleh semua pengeluar xkira la sapa pun memang dibuat dlm keadaan "ideal" iaitu sorg penumpang/driver, tak pasang aircond @ heater,speed <90km/j dan kelajuan yg consistent.. .so sendiri mau paham la...
 
model perodua/toyota tu mungkin outdated skit kalau compare dgn upcoming exora turbo tapi kita kena tgk power delivery enjin macamana...yg penting lani ialah enjin campro turbo tu xdak turbo lag dan horsepower tu bule diakses pada semua julat rpm..bukan macam enjin lani yg mana pemandu kena "ram" skit enjin baru ada power...barula sesuai utk kegunaan mpv...kalau turbo lag melambak dahtu plak nak kena ram enjin baru ada power baik tak payah...minyak pun dah gerenti lagi kuat sebab memanjang kena maintain high rpm...kalau kita memang gila nak race atau main pickup atau drag lain cerita la...xpala kita tgk la nanti bila exora turbo tu kuar proton nak buat macamana...harap2 segala potential problem diatas x berlaku...
 
in term of engine performance, its better to look at engine's power delivery rather than outright horsepower.. .
in term of gearbox, its better to have fewer gear ratio that is well matched to the engine rather than lots of gear ratio tapi langsung x match...
in term of engine maintenance, its better not to have timing belt,kita cuma perlu maintain menda kecik macam minyak enjin,plug camtu2 jer...kecuali la kot terjadik perkara x diduga...
 
byk faktor kita kena tgk sebenarnya,bukan semata-mata pada horse power saja...tapi kalau horsepower lagi tinggi memang lagi sempoi la hehe...

From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mohdmat
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:14 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora

 

Only to compare Engine performance

Campro CPS
MAX OUTPUT (kw/rpm 93/6500)
MAX TORQUE (nm/rpm) 150/4500

Exora Campro CPS turbocharged (wikipedia) 2010-2011
the engine is estimated to be about 150 bhp (112 kW; 152 PS) and 240 N·m (180 ft·lbf) of torque. with 5 speed AT & CVT (sama mcm latest BMW pakai)

Toyota Passo Sette  and Boon Luminas if Perodua MPV to be based on this model.

-my comment, eventhough new 2009 model but Toyota still uses 4 speed AT. Kebanyakan manufacturer skrg samada pakai 5 speed AT or CVT. 1.5 engine mcm ni lebih sesuai utk org kat Jepun. kat m'sia dgn 1.5 L with engine output mcm tu x sure bole cater utk org m'sia especially waktu hill climbing. with this power output and 4 speed AT, you can't expect better fuel comsumption but depend on vehicle kerb weight.  fuel consumption kat bawah tu tak sure berapa passenger yg dia bawak. 

Engine Specifications

Displacement (cc)
Powertrain
Transmission
Maximum output (kW(PS)/rpm)
Maximum torque (N-m(kg-m)/rpm)
Fuel consumption* (km/l)

3ZR-VE
1,495
Front-engine, front-wheel drive
Four-speed automatic transmission
80 (109)/6,000
141 (14.4)/4,400
15.6

Four-wheel drive
14.6
*Under the 10-15 Japanese test cycle, as certified by Japan´s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@ wdc.com> wrote:

From: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@ wdc.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora [5 Attachments]
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 4:54 PM

 

saya cuma sekadar menolong menambahkan pilihan utk org yg bertanya..yg tu saja...kalau tuan yg bertanya tu memang dah "dead set" nak beli samada eastar atau exora itu adalah pilihan dia...saya xmau komen pasal model exora @ eastar ni pasal automobilers yg lain dah bagi pandangan mereka... 
 
antara beberapa sebab saya listkan sama model perodua:-
1.perodua lani guna teknolji toyota tapi rega macam keta buatan mesia
2.enjin dvvt dan guna timing chain..xyah dah nak piker nak tukar timingbelt setiap 80K km..tapi kalau x kisah xpela..
3.rata2 model perodua lebih save minyak berbanding jenama lain,so sendiri mau piker la...
 
kepada yg bertanya,melainkan kalau dah urgent sangat nak amik keta,saya cadangkan supaya bersabar dulu dalam 1-2bulan nie tgu sampai model perodua tu kuar..pastu baru la tuan mula buat tilikan dan pilihan...lagi byk pilihan lagi bagus...jgn menyesal kemudian hari..nak kuar duit puluh2 ribu tu....
 
salamz...
p/s:sila refer attachment kalau nak tgk..saya xtau betul camni @ tidak tapi kalau betoi mmg sempoi la..ramalan akan kuar pada november 2009 dan pada rega rm60k-rm65k. .


4b.

Re: Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora

Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com   littlenoti

Tue Sep 8, 2009 12:14 am (PDT)



hahaha, sabar je.... tak pe bang... pilih bini utk jaga sampai mati.... pilih kereta....dah benci sok, boleh buang jauh2... :)

rgds,
Nazri Ahtar

________________________________
From: bwasi <bwasi@yahoo.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 3:34:01 PM
Subject:Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora

Kawan2...terimakasi h banyak2 atas semua pandangan... semalam pi tengok Eastar...betuila kurang kemas sikit, tapi engine smooth (mits)...dah test Exora... suspension sedap mcm renault, luas, tapi macm kawan sini cakapla ..Perodua tu cantikla dashboard dia dari gambaq tu...Nampaknya kena tunngu lagi.. aku rasa masa nak pilih bini pun tak susah camni..

--- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, mohdmat <kedai_tayar@ ...> wrote:
>
> Only to compare Engine performance
> Â
> Â
> Campro CPS
> MAX OUTPUT (kw/rpm 93/6500)
> MAX TORQUE (nm/rpm) 150/4500
> Â
> Exora Campro CPS turbocharged (wikipedia) 2010-2011
> the engine is estimated to be about 150 bhp (112 kW; 152 PS) and 240 N·m (180 ft·lbf) of torque. with 5 speed AT & CVT (sama mcm latest BMW pakai)
> Â
> Toyota Passo Sette and Boon Luminas if Perodua MPV to be based on this model.
> Â
> -my comment, eventhough new 2009 model but Toyota still uses 4 speed AT. Kebanyakan manufacturer skrg samada pakai 5 speed AT or CVT. 1.5 engine mcm ni lebih sesuai utk org kat Jepun. kat m'sia dgn 1.5 L with engine output mcm tu x sure bole cater utk org m'sia especially waktu hill climbing. with this power output and 4 speed AT, you can't expect better fuel comsumption but depend on vehicle kerb weight.  fuel consumption kat bawah tu tak sure berapa passenger yg dia bawak.Â
> Â
> Engine Specifications
>
>
>
>
> Displacement (cc)
> Powertrain
> Transmission
> Maximum output (kW(PS)/rpm)
> Maximum torque (N-m(kg-m)/rpm)
> Fuel consumption* (km/l)
>
> 3ZR-VE
> 1,495
> Front-engine, front-wheel drive
> Four-speed automatic transmission
> 80 (109)/6,000
> 141 (14.4)/4,400
> 15.6
>
> Four-wheel drive
> 14.6
> *Under the 10-15 Japanese test cycle, as certified by JapanâEURTMs Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism
>
> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Shahrul Izwan <Shahrul.Izwan@ ...>
> Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Chery Eastar vs Proton Exora [5 Attachments]
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 4:54 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
> [Attachment( s) from Shahrul Izwan included below]
>
>
>
> saya cuma sekadar menolong menambahkan pilihan utk org yg bertanya..yg tu saja...kalau tuan yg bertanya tu memang dah "dead set" nak beli samada eastar atau exora itu adalah pilihan dia...saya xmau komen pasal model exora @ eastar ni pasal automobilers yg lain dah bagi pandangan mereka...Â
> Â
> antara beberapa sebab saya listkan sama model perodua:-
> 1.perodua lani guna teknolji toyota tapi rega macam keta buatan mesia
> 2.enjin dvvt dan guna timing chain..xyah dah nak piker nak tukar timingbelt setiap 80K km..tapi kalau x kisah xpela..
> 3.rata2 model perodua lebih save minyak berbanding jenama lain,so sendiri mau piker la...
> Â
> kepada yg bertanya,melainkan kalau dah urgent sangat nak amik keta,saya cadangkan supaya bersabar dulu dalam 1-2bulan nie tgu sampai model perodua tu kuar..pastu baru la tuan mula buat tilikan dan pilihan.. .lagi byk pilihan lagi bagus...jgn menyesal kemudian hari..nak kuar duit puluh2 ribu tu....
> Â
> salamz...
> p/s:sila refer attachment kalau nak tgk..saya xtau betul camni @ tidak tapi kalau betoi mmg sempoi la..ramalan akan kuar pada november 2009 dan pada rega rm60k-rm65k. .
>

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