Thursday, April 30, 2009

www.auto.pdniaga.com - Digest Number 2331

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1a.

Jimat Petrol  &  Cuci Kereta !!! ( http://www.petrolsavers.blogspot.

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Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:54 pm (PDT)





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2a.

Tips Memulihkan Silinder & Piston Aus

Posted by: "Azis Rifai" rifaiazis@yahoo.com   rifaiazis

Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:54 pm (PDT)





Tips Memulihkan Silinder & Piston yang Aus

 
Pemakaian kendaraan selama periode tertentu akan menimbulkan keausan di
komponen mesin, seperti di piston maupun di silinder, yang mengakibatkan
kompresi  berkurang,  mesin tidak bertenaga,
suara mesin menjadi kasar, tarikan berat, dan berasap
(ngebul).
 
Problem ini bisa diatasi tanpa harus turun mesin, yaitu dengan
menggunakan Nano Energizer, sebuah produk Korea
Selatan berteknologi nano ceramic yang mampu melapisi (coating)
bagian-bagian mesin yang telah aus.
 
 
Apakah Nano Energizer
Itu?
 

Nano Energizer adalah partikel nano yang berukuran sangat
kecil 20-25 nano (1 micron = 1000 nano). Partikel nano akan bekerja di dalam
mesin secara optimal dengan memanfaatkan panas dan tekanan saat mesin bekerja.

 
Bagian mesin yang sudah aus akan diisi oleh partikel nano
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memperpanjang umur mesin secara signifikan.
 
Bagaimana Nano Energizer Bekerja Memulihkan
Silinder & Piston yang Aus?
 

 
Review Pemakaian Nano
Energizer
 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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3.1.

Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com   littlenoti

Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:05 pm (PDT)



yang menang, kemampuan diri sendiri. orang lain leh cadangkan je. yang menanggung, tuan empunya.

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To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:06:01 PM
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

So kesimpulan keta mana menang? waja ke Gen2? 140? 160? 170? 200? 250
ada berani? hehe..

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Fw: MINTA TOLONG SEBARKAN. AMARAN BUAT SEMUA.

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Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:06 pm (PDT)





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ASSALAMMUALAIKUM. .. Disini saya ingin memberi amaran dan peringatan buat semuanya di seluruh Malaysia mengenai kegiatan seorang penipu yang mana modus operandinya adalah menawarkan handfon murah(kastam kononnya), kereta murah(kereta anda yang akan dilarikan) dan juga perempuan2 semua berhati2 dengan lelaki ini, jangan sampai kena jual, Awas bila berhadapan dengannya kerana dipercayai mengamal ilmu hitam dgn cincin taring harimau.
 
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Wednesday, April 29, 2009

www.auto.pdniaga.com - Digest Number 2330

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "awie533" awie7072@yahoo.com   awie7072

Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:08 pm (PDT)



saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM

mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H  ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

tuan mod, hide my id plez
 
Mr Johari,
 
saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..
 
kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..
 
just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Hide ID pls,
 
Johari,
 
Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, âہ"corneringâە¿½ pun stable.
 
Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
 

Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
Minyak gearbox
Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
 
Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
 
Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.
 

From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
 

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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1b.

Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com   littlenoti

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:19 pm (PDT)



errr, pengalaman saya bawak waja 140km/h mmg tak terasa.tak sedar pun, bunyi enjin pun senyap je lagi. sedap tekan minyak ade la... hehe. bawak 160/170 km/h tak de rasa goyang/melayang pun. tapi tak tau nak cakap la sebab tak pernah bawah gen2.

note : waja stendet mendet 1.6 auto.

________________________________
From: awie533 <awie7072@yahoo.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17:46 AM
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM

mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H  ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

________________________________
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

tuan mod, hide my id plez

Mr Johari,

saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..

kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..

just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

________________________________
Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Hide ID pls,
 
Johari,
 
Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, âââ€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ…â€Å“corneringâââ€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ¯Ã‚¿Ã‚½ pun stable.
 
Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
 
1. Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
2. Minyak gearbox
3. Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
4. Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
 
Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
 
Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.
 

________________________________

From:automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
 

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "rezal_sapuan@amtek.my" rezal_sapuan@amtek.my

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:19 pm (PDT)



Salam,

Mungkin lain orang lain pandangan. Bagi saya yg dah pakai waja lebih 5
tahun, kalau 170kmj tu okay lagi cuma speed trap kat sebelah dah
berbunyi ... he he he

Thanks and regards



From: awie533 <awie7072@yahoo.com>

To: automobil@yahoogroups.com

Date: 29/04/2009 11:08 AM

Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com
















saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu
sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM



mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...(Embedded image moved to file:
pic19169.gif)

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih
selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat
mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya,
waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku
pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.



To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)




tuan mod, hide my id plez

Mr Johari,

saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n
handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x
de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..

kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family
car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare
dgn early model dulu..

just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not
consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya
sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu
sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn
my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting
longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang
dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)




Hide ID pls,





Johari,





Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn
mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan
keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg
selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic
(saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, âہ"corneringââ
‚¬Ã¯¿½ pun stable.





Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.



1. Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan
(sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
2. Minyak gearbox
3. Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
4. Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.





Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya
pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang
stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.





Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman
saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.








From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)










Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara
Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih
baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap
bantu..


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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "Fhazly Yusop" neoli18@yahoo.com   neoli18

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:19 pm (PDT)



biar betul bro. saya pakai waja bawak 160 tu sempoi x goyang lagi

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, awie533 <awie7072@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: awie533 <awie7072@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 7:17 AM

saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM

mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H  ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

tuan mod, hide my id plez
 
Mr Johari,
 
saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..
 
kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..
 
just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Hide ID pls,
 
Johari,
 
Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, âââ€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ…â€Å“corneringâââ€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ¯Ã‚¿Ã‚½ pun stable.
 
Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
 

Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
Minyak gearbox
Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
 
Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
 
Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.
 

From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
 

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "Abdul Rahman bin Johari" arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my   man_apache

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:20 pm (PDT)



waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang? wah pelik tu, aku pernah naik dengan member
aku...tp bukan member aku yang bawak, awek member tu yang bawak...dari
penang ke ipoh dia henjut 140 takde rasa apa pun, siap boleh tido dengan
lena lagi...tataula goyang tang stereng ka atau body, tp kalau tang body
mmg tak goyangla...kete waja sedap tp orang kata maintenance tak berapa
sedap, abang aku lak bgtau bawak gen2 yang tak sedap

awie533 wrote:
>
>
> saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa
> stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.
>
> --- On *Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 /<hbabasri@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM
>
> mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
> smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
> pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
> maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
> ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
> 150-170 KM/H ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
> ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
> Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
> ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...
>
> --- On *Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood /<moodysega@hotmail. com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
> Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
> To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM
>
> waja, gen2,persona
> sume beza
> persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan
> berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
> waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni,
> tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling,
> engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2
> jauh bagus dari persona.
> tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd
> conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> From: wan@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
>
>
>
>
> tuan mod, hide my id plez
>
> Mr Johari,
>
> saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati,
> cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe,
> nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..
>
> kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u
> sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh
> ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..
>
> just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car
> why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get
> 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then
> new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik
> 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my
> gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long
> lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk
> tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena
> cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *Daripada:* "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
> *Kepada:* automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> *Dihantar:* Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
> *Subjek:* RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs
> Gen2)
>
>
> Hide ID pls,
>
>
>
> Johari,
>
>
>
> Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga
> bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat
> saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati
> nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman
> yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya
> BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth,
> âہ"corneringâە¿½ pun stable.
>
>
>
> Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
>
>
>
> 1. Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau
> 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
> 2. Minyak gearbox
> 3. Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
> 4. Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
>
>
>
> Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen
> 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/
> ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control.
> Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
>
>
>
> Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita
> berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak
> memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups.
> com] *On Behalf Of *khairul_joey
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
> *To:* automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> *Subject:* www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya
> minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua
> kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa
> dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..
>
>
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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "khairul@spgib.com.my" khairul@spgib.com.my

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:30 pm (PDT)



ABSORBER DAH ROSAK TU YG GOYANG BILA BWK 140KM/J




Abdul Rahman bin Johari <arahman@newhoongfatt.com.my>
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waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang? wah pelik tu, aku pernah naik dengan member
aku...tp bukan member aku yang bawak, awek member tu yang bawak...dari
penang ke ipoh dia henjut 140 takde rasa apa pun, siap boleh tido dengan
lena lagi...tataula goyang tang stereng ka atau body, tp kalau tang body
mmg tak goyangla...kete waja sedap tp orang kata maintenance tak berapa
sedap, abang aku lak bgtau bawak gen2 yang tak sedap

awie533 wrote:

saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady
jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM


mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza,
lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat
mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya,
waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku
pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)




tuan mod, hide my id plez

Mr Johari,

saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering
n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada
prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..

kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family
car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare
dgn early model dulu..

just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not
consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg
kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani
kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti
jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak
long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la
tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit
la..

Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)


Hide ID pls,

Johari,

Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy
akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan
keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg
selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg
economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth,
âہ"corneringâە¿½ pun stable.

Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.

1. Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya
kereta jarang guna)
2. Minyak gearbox
3. Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
4. Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.

Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya
pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang
stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang
skit.

Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan
pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi
bukan kenyataan.


From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)




Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat
antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta
ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain
lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..


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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "EAX550mm512" hbabasri@yahoo.com   hbabasri

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:31 pm (PDT)



tu la awie.....
waja club dah bengang kau ckp 140 dah bergegar
dah mula riuh da
tu la bila komplen pengguna keter tu mmg la terasa
nanti kena Gen2 kecoh plak club Gen2
keh keh keh ...

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:59 AM

errr, pengalaman saya bawak waja 140km/h mmg tak terasa.tak sedar pun, bunyi enjin pun senyap je lagi. sedap tekan minyak ade la... hehe. bawak 160/170 km/h tak de rasa goyang/melayang pun. tapi tak tau nak cakap la sebab tak pernah bawah gen2.
 
note : waja stendet mendet 1.6 auto.

From: awie533 <awie7072@yahoo. com>
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17:46 AM
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM

mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H  ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

tuan mod, hide my id plez
 
Mr Johari,
 
saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..
 
kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..
 
just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Hide ID pls,
 
Johari,
 
Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, ÃÆ'¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢‚¬Ã…¡Ãƒ‚¬Ãƒ…âہ"corneringÃÆ'¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢‚¬Ã…¡Ãƒ‚¬Ãƒ¯Ã‚¿Ã‚½ pun stable.
 
Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
 

Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
Minyak gearbox
Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
 
Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
 

Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.

 

From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
 

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "FoRensiC" paroys_9@yahoo.com   paroys_9

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:57 pm (PDT)



Biar betull broo... kelisa waa 160km/h maintain lagi.. cumer bila lori lalu.. kete ketepi dgn sendirinyer kekekeke..

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, awie533 <awie7072@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: awie533 <awie7072@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 7:17 AM

saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM

mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H  ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

tuan mod, hide my id plez
 
Mr Johari,
 
saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..
 
kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..
 
just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

Daripada: "kamil@yahoogroups. com" <kamil@yahoogroups. com>
Kepada: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Hide ID pls,
 
Johari,
 
Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, âââ€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ…â€Å“corneringâââ€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ¯Ã‚¿Ã‚½ pun stable.
 
Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
 

Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
Minyak gearbox
Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
 
Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
 

Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.

 

From: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:automobil@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of khairul_joey
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:05 PM
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
 

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "awie533" awie7072@yahoo.com   awie7072

Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:28 am (PDT)



tak tau lah kau org mcmana bg aku mmg tak sedap sangat,maintenace pun tinggi waja aku tu enjin mitsubishi SOHC thn 2004 dan pakai standard je takda tukar apa2 pun.dulu aku sales man proton semua keta aku try....pasal kau org jd sales man kau kena ambil sendir keta tu kat glenmerie masa tu..mngkin kau org buat blk kampung best sebab berat kot...!
 
skrg kat highway KESAS pulak.

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:23 PM

tu la awie.....
waja club dah bengang kau ckp 140 dah bergegar
dah mula riuh da
tu la bila komplen pengguna keter tu mmg la terasa
nanti kena Gen2 kecoh plak club Gen2
keh keh keh ...

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Nazri Ahtar <littlenoti@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 11:59 AM

errr, pengalaman saya bawak waja 140km/h mmg tak terasa.tak sedar pun, bunyi enjin pun senyap je lagi. sedap tekan minyak ade la... hehe. bawak 160/170 km/h tak de rasa goyang/melayang pun. tapi tak tau nak cakap la sebab tak pernah bawah gen2.
 
note : waja stendet mendet 1.6 auto.

From: awie533 <awie7072@yahoo. com>
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17:46 AM
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

saya sokong tu .waja 140kmj dah rasa goyang la tp gen tu tak rasa stady jee..dulu sy sendiri pun waja.

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: EAX550mm512 <hbabasri@yahoo. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 5:28 PM

mesti la Gen2..sporty pun dia jugak handling superb dia jugak
smooth pun dia jugak..cam keter mewah je waja nampak tua sket
pesona nampak skima sket..fuel consumption Gen2 ok je ..
maintenance lebih kurang je ngan waja pesona..
ala amik Gen2 ..kita bawak dr mula beli sampai sekarang
150-170 KM/H  ok je .cam naik kalap terbang je .auto lak tu..
ikut hati nak tekan lagi..keh keh keh !!,
Fully service by proton mahal sket la..ade je extra
ikut scedule dia insyaAllah x de prob...

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: bAd mood <moodysega@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)
To: "automobil@yahoogro ups.com" <automobil@yahoogrou ps.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:15 AM

waja, gen2,persona
sume beza
persona walaupun lebih kurang sama ngan gen2, tapi pemanduan berbeza, lebih selesa gen2, sebabtu dia mahal dari persona.
waja lagi mantap la. aku ada baca pasal perbezaan proton ni, tapi lupa kat mana. dia ada cerita pasal material, handling, engine dll. kesimpulannya, waja bagus sikit dari gen2, gen2 jauh bagus dari persona.
tapi aku sokong geng yang cakap lebih baik beli kete 2nd conti. jimat. aku pun pakai, kurang problem, selesa dan murah.

To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: wan@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

tuan mod, hide my id plez
 
Mr Johari,
 
saya pakai gen2 dah hmpir 4 tahun, so far mmg agak puas hati, cornering n handling mantap, myk pun boleh tahan jugak safe, nk kata slalu ada prblem x de la sgt..biasa la wear n tear..
 
kalau nk compare waja dgn gen2..terpulang kpd tujuan u sndiri..utk family car ke atau lebih pd style..dua2 dh ok..quality pn dh byk berubah compare dgn early model dulu..
 
just my 2 sen thought..daripada u spend about 50k for new car why not consider 2nd hand conti car..for the $10k u can get 405 or 306 yg kualitinya sy berani jamin much more better then new waja/gen2..sy berani kata mcm tu sbb sy ada pakai sebijik 306, model 96..tp handling n kualiti jauh beza dgn my gen2..maintainance lebih kurang gen2 saja n part pulak long lasting longger then proton..n u can safe about 40K...byk tu..dh la tak ada hutang dgn bank..mmg puas hati la..tp kena cari yg tak ada pnyakit la..

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Dihantar: Isnin, 27 April , 2009 11:15:04
Subjek: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Hide ID pls,
 
Johari,
 
Sy skrg memiliki sebuah Waja 1.6 (M). Memandangkan keluarga bertambah sy akn mengambil sebuah MPV Toyota. Pada pendapat saya, klu nak di ikutkan keselesaan, Waja mmg baik. Berat hati nak jual Waja nie sbb pemanduan mmg selesa dan ruang dalaman yg luas. Bonet besar, fuel consumption yg economic (saya punya BUKAN Campro). Penukaran gear yg smooth, ÃÆ'Æ’Ãâ€Å¡Ãƒ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ…¡Ãƒâ€Å¡Ãƒ‚¬ÃƒÆ'â€Â¦ÃƒÆ’¢Ã¢Ã¢€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ…â€Å“corneringÃÆ'Æ’Ãâ€Å¡Ãƒ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢Ã¢Ã¢Ã¢€Å¡Ã‚¬Ãƒ…¡Ãƒâ€Å¡Ãƒ‚¬ÃƒÆ'¯Ãâ€Å¡Ãƒ‚¿Ãƒâ€Å¡Ãƒ‚½ pun stable.
 
Apa2 pun penjagaan kereta itu penting.
 

Penukaran minyak hitam (engine oil) setiap 5,000km atau 6 bulan (sekiranya kereta jarang guna)
Minyak gearbox
Suspension (pkai yg standard), klu dh mati tukarlah.
Dan banyaklah lagi yg perlu kita ambil tahu.
 
Saya pernah memandu Persona (lebih kurang pkai structure Gen 2). Bila saya pandu 100km sudah terasa kereta tu mcm hoyong/ ringan (sy kena pegang stereng kuat2) khuatir lost control. Dan masa cornering, agak membuang skit.
 

Minta maaf kepada penguna Gen2 dan Persona. Saya bercerita berdasarkan pengalaman saya. Harap jangan marah, anda berhak memberi pendapat tapi bukan kenyataan.

 

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Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "Kamarul" b.kamarl@sem.sharp-world.com

Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:29 am (PDT)



salam,

biasanya yg cakap macam2 ni diaorang tak pakai pun kereta tersebut....kebanyakannya dengar cakap2 org..hehe
minggu lepas masa tengah layan corner turun karak hiway ke kl dgn 5 siri e34 saya..ada sebijik gen2 cuba follow ....nasib baik dia follow sekejap jer...saya hati tak berapa kering silap2 kena potong...hehe

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From: uncle zah 'am
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Ive been driving a Waja since 2004. So far, the only problem that I had was with the Windows control unit (which happened only after 3 years). No other problems so far. So, it's something strange when people said that Waja have too many problems! Are U sure of that? No matter what car U drive, the most important thing is the maintainance. So, choose wisely, list down the pros and cons, then u'll see the answer for your question. Peace.

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To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
From: opensourc@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:26:59 +0800
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Don't buy either both. Waja too many problems... Gen-2 pun sama. Pilih lain.

2009/4/25 khairul_joey <khairul_joey@yahoo.com>

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "MHZ" cekelatgetah@gmail.com   mohamad_hadi

Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:33 am (PDT)



So kesimpulan keta mana menang? waja ke Gen2? 140? 160? 170? 200? 250
ada berani? hehe..

1l.

Re: Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Posted by: "Nazri Ahtar" littlenoti@yahoo.com   littlenoti

Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:33 am (PDT)



bro, pesal tak titik je gen2 tu ? layan drift kat cornering karak tu ke.... hehehehhe.... kompom sampai KL tayar botak.

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From: Kamarul <b.kamarl@sem.sharp-world.com>
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:45:54 PM
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

salam,
 
biasanya yg cakap macam2 ni diaorang tak pakai pun kereta tersebut.... kebanyakannya dengar  cakap2 org..hehe
minggu lepas masa tengah layan corner turun karak hiway ke kl dgn 5 siri  e34 saya..ada sebijik gen2 cuba follow ....nasib baik dia follow sekejap jer...saya hati tak berapa kering silap2 kena potong...hehe
 
----- Original Message -----
From: uncle zah 'am
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Ive been driving a Waja since 2004. So far, the only problem that I had was with the Windows control unit (which happened only after 3 years). No other problems so far. So, it's something strange when people said that Waja have too many problems! Are U sure of that? No matter what car U drive, the most important thing is the maintainance. So, choose wisely, list down the pros and cons, then u'll see the answer for your question. Peace.

________________________________
To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
From: opensourc@gmail. com
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:26:59 +0800
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Minta Pendapat (Waja vs Gen2)

Don't buy either both. Waja too many problems... Gen-2 pun sama. Pilih lain.

2009/4/25 khairul_joey <khairul_joey@ yahoo.com>

Nama saya Johari.Saya tengah planning nak beli kereta.Di hati saya minat antara Waja 1.6 Manual dgn Gen-2 1.6 Manual.Antara kedua-dua kereta ini,mana yang lebih baik.Contoh dari segi penjimatan,kuasa dan lain-lain lagi yang berkaitan.Harap bantu..

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Fw: ((Tmn2Syurga)) INFO: Bukit Aman's Malaysia Control Centre (MCC)

Posted by: "ahmad sopuan abdullah" asafahaha@yahoo.com.my   asafahaha

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:22 pm (PDT)



salam.

Subject: Bukit Aman's Malaysia Control Centre (MCC)

For your info,  

Have verified the telephone nos.  Confirmed it is MCC..
Very efficient. Answered after one ring.  
 
I used these MCC several times in the past and I find them very useful during emergencies. Police cars just came in from different directions within minutes ! Key in these hotline numbers
(03-22627555/ 03-22626555) into your mobile phone.
They may save your life.  ( Think of Mat Rempit )

Those are the numbers for Bukit Aman's Malaysia Control Centre (MCC), the call centre for all police emergencies. The police are urging Malaysians to have these numbers in their mobile phone.
Bukit Aman Public Relations Superintendent, Mohamad Daud saidmotorists may help prevent cases like the recent murder of assistant computer engineer Mohamad Nazri Ismail.

He added that even after the crime has occurred, the police could go to the crime scene in the shortest possible time and it may result in the capture of those responsible.

An MCC spokesman said the public from any parts of Malaysia can call the centre to report an emergency anytime. "We will direct the call to the nearest police station for the officers there to handle
the matter," said the spokesman.
 
 
 

           Regards,
         TOM
(NIZARUDIN BIN BAHAMAN),
HR OFFICER ,
FREESCALE(M) SDN BHD ,
OFFICE : 03-78732822
SPEED DIAL : #6388 ,
H/P : 012-9171850
email : Nizarudin@freescale .com

2b.

Re: Fw: ((Tmn2Syurga)) INFO: Bukit Aman's Malaysia Control Centre (M

Posted by: "saiful sham" saifulshm@yahoo.com.my   saifulshm

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:57 pm (PDT)



VERIFIED!!!...thanks for the useful info...

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salam.

Subject: Bukit Aman's Malaysia Control Centre (MCC)

For your info,  

Have verified the telephone nos.  Confirmed it is MCC..
Very efficient. Answered after one ring.  
 
I used these MCC several times in the past and I find them very useful during emergencies. Police cars just came in from different directions within minutes ! Key in these hotline numbers
(03-22627555/ 03-22626555) into your mobile phone.
They may save your life.  ( Think of Mat Rempit )

Those are the numbers for Bukit Aman's Malaysia Control Centre (MCC), the call centre for all police emergencies. The police are urging Malaysians to have these numbers in their mobile phone.
Bukit Aman Public Relations Superintendent, Mohamad Daud saidmotorists may help prevent cases like the recent murder of assistant computer engineer Mohamad Nazri Ismail.

He added that even after the crime has occurred, the police could go to the crime scene in the shortest possible time and it may result in the capture of those responsible.

An MCC spokesman said the public from any parts of Malaysia can call the centre to report an emergency anytime. "We will direct the call to the nearest police station for the officers there to handle
the matter," said the spokesman.
 
 
 

           Regards,
         TOM
(NIZARUDIN BIN BAHAMAN),
HR OFFICER ,
FREESCALE(M) SDN BHD ,
OFFICE : 03-78732822
SPEED DIAL : #6388 ,
H/P : 012-9171850
email : Nizarudin@freescale .com

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Posted by: "Harris Bin Haron" Harris@maa.com.my

Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:57 pm (PDT)



Salam....

Owner Peugeot 406 no WGM 8585 ada dlm group ni tak?

Semlm tgk keta tu.... cun la... berkenan la pulak.....

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