Friday, July 23, 2010

www.auto.pdniaga.com - Digest Number 2693

Messages In This Digest (6 Messages)

1.1.
Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: Quwarrizxmy Qurraizy
1.2.
Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: NagoMakeOre
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Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: MHZ
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Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: bashah
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Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: AWIN ZIZUL
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Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia From: abgmad

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1.1.

Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "Quwarrizxmy Qurraizy" qurraizy@gmail.com

Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:26 pm (PDT)



bagus2

info yg berguna

bila la saya dpt pi sana

nih pon dh nak pencen

On 22/07/2010, asbimoha@gmail.com <asbimoha@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saya rasa ramai org tersilap fasal cukai di Malaysia dan di US ni. Sewaktu
> saya kerja di sana akhir tahun 90an dulu cukai yang dikenakan kpd saya
> ialah dalam 28pc. Sekarang cukai yang saya bayar dekat2 25pc jugak. Itu tak
> masuk road tax yg dekat rm400 di sini (kat US stiker Plat hanya dalam usd5
> sahaja). Tol jangan kira lah. Sebulan dekat2 300. Itu utk urusan kerja
> sahaja. Kalau bercuti atau outstation lagi teruk la. Kat US pun ada tol
> tapi hanya utk interstate tertentu sahaja dan rate nya taklah sampai puluh2
> ringgit sehala macam kat sini. Saya tak nak ulas fasal harga kereta sebab
> yang tu semua orang sudah tau.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rezal_sapuan@amtek.my
> Sender: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:42:34
> To: <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> Salam,
>
> Kalau tak silap saya income tax kat us dalam 25% .... memang tinggi ....
> Macam kat Malaysia income tax rendah je ... Macam saya lepas tolak rebat
> zakat pendapatan, anak dan insuran perubatan, masih ada terlebih bayar
> lagi ... baru2 ni dapat cek RM685 dari LHDN ...
>
> Kesimpulan ... terpulang pada diri sendiri untuk menilainya ...
>
>
>
> From: waja timur <kayyanne78@yahoo.com>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 21/07/2010 03:56 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
> Nak mencelah sikit jek... Apa la yang kita nak bandingkan sistem ekonomi
> kita dengan US tu... Ramai orang tgk harga kereta kat US lagi murah dari
>
> kat sini... Dan abaikan faktor lain...
>
>
> Tapi jangan lupa... US memang tak letak cukai tinggi pada kereta... Lagi
> ganas, diorang belasah dekat cukai pendapatan atau dalam bahasa lain
> Income Tax... Aku takde exact figure tapi setakat pengetahuan cetek aku
> nie, Income Tax kat US bapak tinggi dari kat sini....
>
>
> Kesimpulan, mana lagi ok ... Cukai keta tinggi which kita ada pilihan
> either nak bayar ke tak (erti kata lain tak yah beli)..Or Income Tax tinggi
>
> yang kita nak tak nak memang kena bayar? Kalau tak bayar, government bole
> rampas segala harta benda...
>
> Pikir la.. Jangan tak pikir...
>
>
> 2 kupang jek...
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Kita sebenarnya idup mengemis kat negara sendiri. Memang betul
> sesetengah pendapat, umpama negara kita nie tak punya apa-apa sumber.
> Sedangkan
> dimata rakyat, pemimpin mendabik dada mengisytiharkan rakyat malaysia
> lah yang sepatutnya tadah tangan bersyukur kepada kerajaan kerana nikmat
> pembangunan yang diberi oleh kerajaan pemerintah.
>
>
> Negara kita seperti tak ada loji carigali minyak di dalam negeri,
> sehinggakan minyak kita paling antara yang mahal di kalangan negara
>
> pengeluar minyak. (nak nampak murah, balik-balik harga minyak kita
> dibandingkan dengan singapura, depa mana loji sendiri).
>
>
> Harga kereta mengalahkan harga rumah kos sederhana. Nak murah beli
> kereta cap malaysia, tetapi teknologi masih lagi menyadur dari kereta jepun
>
> 5 tahun lepas. Mari bezakan dengan jenama Korea (kini dah tembus
> pasaran US & eropah akibat peningkatan teknologi & ciri keselamatan &
>
> piawaian product yang ketat) pasaran semakin meluas, seterusnya
> meningkatlah jumlah pengeluaran, maka boleh lah direndahkan harga bagi
>
> keluaran tempatan. Tak percaya buka web korea/jepun tengok sendiri
> harga tempatan kereta mereka berapa. (orang proton, produa, MITI kena pi
>
> belajar asas ekonomi lagi nie)
>
>
> P/s:- kekadang tertanya-tanya, apa kesudahannya cerita lawak di
> malaysia nie....
>
>
> From: baddRi Rozaimi <zordaq@yahoo. com>
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38:14
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
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>
> Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak
> cover bonus kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita laa
> yg akan bg bonus raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah
> kena bayar.. nak gi jalan2 kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan lg.)..
>
> cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai) .
> harga kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat negara luar.. minyak mahal mcam kita
> beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde ladang tebu....orang yang
> akan merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada keluarga.. mampus laa si
>
> bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000 lg.. haha
> pening..
>
>
> 1 Malaysia ..
>
> Rakyat Didahulukan Duit ... Pencapaian Baru Diutamakan
>
>
> Mohd Badri Ibrahim - Badd
>
> 0123556142
>
> Zordaq Sdn Bhd
>
> G01 02 Jalan SM02 Taman Subang Mas,
>
> 47260 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
>
> http://www.ezordaq. com
>
> Spare Part - High Performance - Accessories Car
>
>
>
> From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@ yahoo.com>
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
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> salam...
>
>
> kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena
> bayar... tol bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...
>
>
> tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....
>
>
> miskin kah kita??? ;-p
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
>
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
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>
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah
> bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian
> dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita
> perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis
> about
> 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan
> dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini
>
> amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada
> negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap
> sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak
> yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
> majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
>
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan
> international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, .
> Selain itu
> kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha.
> Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu
> bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah
>
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM,
> Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja
> tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .>
> wrote:
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> > Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
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> > Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm
> or add
> > similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One
> comparison I found
>
> > is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its
> RM62,000.
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> > Car Prices In Malaysia
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> >
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> > BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > In the United States of America (a developed country which we are
> also
> > Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
>
> > Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
>
> > Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells
> in
> > Malaysia for about RM450,000.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
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> >
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> > The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
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> > RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
>
> > RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in
> the
> > US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would
> sell
>
> > For about RM265,000.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
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> >
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> > In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039
> or
> > RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
>
> > Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>
> >
>
> >
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> >
>
> > And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD
> 19,659.00
>
> > Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
>
> > RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>
> >
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> >
>
> > Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices
> in The
> > United States .
>
> > We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much
> cheaper than
> > the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
>
> > It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>
> >
>
> > Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
>
> > Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car
> sells
>
> > Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
>
> > Than Indonesia .
>
> >
>
> > The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz
> sells
>
> > For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>
> >
> g ridiculously high prices (and
> actually impoverishing the
>
> > Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support
> an
> > Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>
> >
>
> > We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
>
> > Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind
> boggling
>
> > AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
> Disproportionately
>
> > large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished
> to subsidise
> > the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars
> just To
> > support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly
> Involved in
> > the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of
> 216:1.
> >
>
> > This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can
> Contribute
> > many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor
> industry. 26
>
> > million unhappy people can change a Government.
>
> > (The maths is not really difficult here)
>
> >
>
> > And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than
> anyone else.
>
> >
>
> > Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our
> car
>
> > Policy. This is truncated:
>
> >
>
> > Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component
> sector
> >
>
> > 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special
> focus
>
> > Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
>
> > Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global
> and
>
> > Regional economic downturn.
>
> >
>
> > 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia
> has
>
> > Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal
> Track
>
> > On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
>
> > Components,? he said.
>
> >
>
> > 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in
> Malaysia
>
> > Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on
> the
>
> > Domestic market.
>
> >
>
> > 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
>
> > Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the
> country.?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that
> the
> > Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This
> means
>
> > We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
>
> > Automobiles.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
>
> > Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga
> sekarang
>
> > (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi
> kurang,
>
> > mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz,
> kalau
>
> > harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
>
> > bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
>
> > belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
>
> > sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
>
> > dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
>
> > daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without
> incurring
>
> > any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
>
> > will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
>
> > economic growth too.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin
> dulu
>
> > orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
>
> > pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
>
> > gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila,
> yang
>
> > menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
>
> > are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
>
> > cars.
>
> >
>
> > Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
>
> > suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts
> suppliers
>
> > too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are
> listed
>
> > companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
>
> > supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is
> a
> > sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best
> efficiency.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so
> that
> > Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy.
> This
> > is not a good thing at all.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from
> now
>
> > to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
>
> > impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
>
> > reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
>
> > little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are
> cheaper).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry
> as
> > though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up.
> The
> > Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in
> about
>
> > three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
>
> > beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to
> become a
>
> > really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>
> >
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1.2.

Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "NagoMakeOre" nagoboror@gmail.com   mkorok

Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:33 pm (PDT)



sapa kata rendah? 28% brader.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:42 AM, <rezal_sapuan@amtek.my> wrote:

>
>
> Salam,
>
> Kalau tak silap saya income tax kat us dalam 25% .... memang tinggi ....
> Macam kat Malaysia income tax rendah je ... Macam saya lepas tolak rebat
> zakat pendapatan, anak dan insuran perubatan, masih ada terlebih bayar
> lagi ... baru2 ni dapat cek RM685 dari LHDN ...
>
> Kesimpulan ... terpulang pada diri sendiri untuk menilainya ...
>
>
>
> From: waja timur <kayyanne78@yahoo.com <kayyanne78%40yahoo.com>>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com <automobil%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 21/07/2010 03:56 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com <automobil%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salam,
>
> Nak mencelah sikit jek... Apa la yang kita nak bandingkan sistem ekonomi
> kita dengan US tu... Ramai orang tgk harga kereta kat US lagi murah dari
> kat sini... Dan abaikan faktor lain...
>
> Tapi jangan lupa... US memang tak letak cukai tinggi pada kereta... Lagi
> ganas, diorang belasah dekat cukai pendapatan atau dalam bahasa lain
> Income Tax... Aku takde exact figure tapi setakat pengetahuan cetek aku
> nie, Income Tax kat US bapak tinggi dari kat sini....
>
> Kesimpulan, mana lagi ok ... Cukai keta tinggi which kita ada pilihan
> either nak bayar ke tak (erti kata lain tak yah beli)..Or Income Tax tinggi
> yang kita nak tak nak memang kena bayar? Kalau tak bayar, government bole
> rampas segala harta benda...
>
> Pikir la.. Jangan tak pikir...
>
> 2 kupang jek...
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com<nuriez76%40rocketmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com <nuriez76%40rocketmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com <automobil%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
>
>
>
> Kita sebenarnya idup mengemis kat negara sendiri. Memang betul sesetengah
> pendapat, umpama negara kita nie tak punya apa-apa sumber. Sedangkan
> dimata rakyat, pemimpin mendabik dada mengisytiharkan rakyat malaysia lah
> yang sepatutnya tadah tangan bersyukur kepada kerajaan kerana nikmat
> pembangunan yang diberi oleh kerajaan pemerintah.
>
> Negara kita seperti tak ada loji carigali minyak di dalam negeri,
> sehinggakan minyak kita paling antara yang mahal di kalangan negara
> pengeluar minyak. (nak nampak murah, balik-balik harga minyak kita
> dibandingkan dengan singapura, depa mana loji sendiri).
>
> Harga kereta mengalahkan harga rumah kos sederhana. Nak murah beli kereta
> cap malaysia, tetapi teknologi masih lagi menyadur dari kereta jepun
> 5 tahun lepas. Mari bezakan dengan jenama Korea (kini dah tembus pasaran US
> & eropah akibat peningkatan teknologi & ciri keselamatan &
> piawaian product yang ketat) pasaran semakin meluas, seterusnya
> meningkatlah jumlah pengeluaran, maka boleh lah direndahkan harga bagi
> keluaran tempatan. Tak percaya buka web korea/jepun tengok sendiri harga
> tempatan kereta mereka berapa. (orang proton, produa, MITI kena pi
> belajar asas ekonomi lagi nie)
>
> P/s:- kekadang tertanya-tanya, apa kesudahannya cerita lawak di malaysia
> nie....
>
> From: baddRi Rozaimi <zordaq@yahoo. com>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38:14
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
> Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak cover
> bonus kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita laa
> yg akan bg bonus raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah kena
> bayar.. nak gi jalan2 kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan lg.)..
> cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai) . harga
> kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat negara luar.. minyak mahal mcam kita
> beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde ladang tebu....orang yang akan
> merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada keluarga.. mampus laa si
> bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000 lg.. haha pening..
>
> 1 Malaysia ..
> Rakyat Didahulukan Duit ... Pencapaian Baru Diutamakan
>
> Mohd Badri Ibrahim - Badd
> 0123556142
> Zordaq Sdn Bhd
> G01 02 Jalan SM02 Taman Subang Mas,
> 47260 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
> http://www.ezordaq. com
> Spare Part - High Performance - Accessories Car
>
>
> From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@ yahoo.com>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> salam...
>
> kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena
> bayar... tol bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...
>
> tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....
>
> miskin kah kita??? ;-p
>
> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah
> bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian
> dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita
> perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis
> about
> 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan
> dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini
> amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada
> negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap
> sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak
> yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
> majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international
> F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu
> kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu
> bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti
> kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM,
> Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja
> tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> >
> >
> > Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or
> add
> > similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I
> found
> > is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Car Prices In Malaysia
> >
> > BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
> >
> > In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
> > Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
> > Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
> > Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
> > Malaysia for about RM450,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
> >
> > The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
> > RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
> > RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
> >
> > The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
> > US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
> > For about RM265,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
> >
> > In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
> > RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
> > Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
> > Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
> > RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
> >
> >
> > Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in
> The
> > United States .
> > We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper
> than
> > the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
> > It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
> >
> > Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
> > Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
> > Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
> > Than Indonesia .
> >
> > The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
> > For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
> > g ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
> > Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
> > Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
> >
> > We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
> > Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
> > AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
> Disproportionately
> > large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to
> subsidise
> > the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
> >
> >
> > 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
>
> > support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly
> Involved in
> > the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of
> 216:1.
> >
> > This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can
> Contribute
> > many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
>
> > million unhappy people can change a Government.
> > (The maths is not really difficult here)
> >
> > And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone
> else.
> >
> > Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
> > Policy. This is truncated:
> >
> > Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
> >
> > 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
> > Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
> > Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
> > Regional economic downturn.
> >
> > 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
> > Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
> > On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
> > Components,? he said.
> >
> > 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
> > Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
> > Domestic market.
> >
> > 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
> > Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
> >
> >
> > Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
> > Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
> > We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
> > Automobiles.
> >
> >
> > Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
> > Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
> > (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
> > mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
> >
> >
> > Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
> > harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
> > bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
> >
> >
> > Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
> > belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
> > sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
> > dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
> > daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
> >
> >
> > This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
> > any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
> > will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
> > economic growth too.
> >
> >
> > Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
> > orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
> > pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
> > gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
> > menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
> >
> >
> > In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
> > are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
> > cars.
> >
> > Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
> > suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
> > too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
> > companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
> > supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
> > sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
> >
> >
> > Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
> > Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
> > is not a good thing at all.
> >
> >
> > We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
> > to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
> > impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
> > reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
> >
> >
> > If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
> > little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
> >
> >
> > The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
> > though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
> > Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
> > three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
> >
> >
> > The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
> > beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
> > really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
> >
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1.3.

Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "MHZ" cekelatgetah@gmail.com   mohamad_hadi

Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:21 pm (PDT)



Salam,

Takpela.. politik ke.. apa ke.. biarlah. sekurang2nya ada gak la tempat
nak meluahkan perasaan dan pendapat. baik/buruk sendiri tapis
le..asalkan jgn melalut2 lari jauh pada tajuk topik dah le..

Nak join gak la dalam isu ni :)

negara maju
-----------

bagi aku definisi negara maju:

sikap/pemikiran rakyat & pemimpin kelas A + Infrastruktur kelas A +
Kuasa beli rakyat kelas A

so kalau nk jd negara maju jgn bwk keta mcm pelesit, jgn buang sampah
merata2, jgn isap rokok tak tentu tempat, jgn vandalism kat
flat/jamban/kemudahan awam. jangan rasuah sana sini, jangan salahguna
kuasa, jangan nak politik ke 24 jam, jangan mengambil kesempatan..

Kereta & Proton
---------------

tak dinafikan keta mahal sebab nak lindung proton. tapi katakanlah satu
masa nnti proton mampu bersaing, korang rasa harga kereta akan turun ke?
percayalah kerajaan takkan membuat "pelarasan cukai kereta". Sapa tak
nak duit beb. BIar rakyat papa asal kerajaan bergaya.

Tol & cukai
-----------

Tak kisahlah kerajaan nak kenakan cukai sampai 80% pun. Nak naikkan tol
sampai 1000% pun takpe. Dengan syarat pastikan kuasa beli rakyat tinggi,
bukan setakat berpendapatan tinggi, pendidikan percuma & perubatan percuma.

kalau kerajaan tak sanggup buat, tukar kerajaan baru. kalau kerajaan
baru pun sama tukar lagi yang baru dan seterusnya. bagitau diorang kalau
nak duduk lama kat atas, jaga rakyat kat bawah ni.

On 23/07/2010 12:00 AM, NagoMakeOre wrote:
>
>
> sapa kata rendah? 28% brader.
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:42 AM, <rezal_sapuan@amtek.my> wrote:
>
> Salam,
>
> Kalau tak silap saya income tax kat us dalam 25% .... memang tinggi
> ....
> Macam kat Malaysia income tax rendah je ... Macam saya lepas tolak
> rebat
> zakat pendapatan, anak dan insuran perubatan, masih ada terlebih bayar
> lagi ... baru2 ni dapat cek RM685 dari LHDN ...
>
> Kesimpulan ... terpulang pada diri sendiri untuk menilainya ...
>
>
>
> From: waja timur <kayyanne78@yahoo.com <mailto:kayyanne78%40yahoo.com>>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 21/07/2010 03:56 PM
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com <http://www.auto.pdniaga.com/> -
> Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salam,
>
> Nak mencelah sikit jek... Apa la yang kita nak bandingkan sistem
> ekonomi kita dengan US tu... Ramai orang tgk harga kereta kat US
> lagi murah dari
> kat sini... Dan abaikan faktor lain...
>
> Tapi jangan lupa... US memang tak letak cukai tinggi pada kereta...
> Lagi ganas, diorang belasah dekat cukai pendapatan atau dalam bahasa
> lain
> Income Tax... Aku takde exact figure tapi setakat pengetahuan cetek
> aku nie, Income Tax kat US bapak tinggi dari kat sini....
>
> Kesimpulan, mana lagi ok ... Cukai keta tinggi which kita ada
> pilihan either nak bayar ke tak (erti kata lain tak yah beli)..Or
> Income Tax tinggi
> yang kita nak tak nak memang kena bayar? Kalau tak bayar, government
> bole rampas segala harta benda...
>
> Pikir la.. Jangan tak pikir...
>
> 2 kupang jek...
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com
> <mailto:nuriez76%40rocketmail.com>> wrote:
>
> From: Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com
> <mailto:nuriez76%40rocketmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com <http://www.auto.pdniaga.com/> -
> Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com <mailto:automobil%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
>
>
>
> Kita sebenarnya idup mengemis kat negara sendiri. Memang betul
> sesetengah pendapat, umpama negara kita nie tak punya apa-apa
> sumber. Sedangkan
> dimata rakyat, pemimpin mendabik dada mengisytiharkan rakyat
> malaysia lah yang sepatutnya tadah tangan bersyukur kepada kerajaan
> kerana nikmat
> pembangunan yang diberi oleh kerajaan pemerintah.
>
> Negara kita seperti tak ada loji carigali minyak di dalam negeri,
> sehinggakan minyak kita paling antara yang mahal di kalangan negara
> pengeluar minyak. (nak nampak murah, balik-balik harga minyak kita
> dibandingkan dengan singapura, depa mana loji sendiri).
>
> Harga kereta mengalahkan harga rumah kos sederhana. Nak murah beli
> kereta cap malaysia, tetapi teknologi masih lagi menyadur dari
> kereta jepun
> 5 tahun lepas. Mari bezakan dengan jenama Korea (kini dah tembus
> pasaran US & eropah akibat peningkatan teknologi & ciri keselamatan &
> piawaian product yang ketat) pasaran semakin meluas, seterusnya
> meningkatlah jumlah pengeluaran, maka boleh lah direndahkan harga bagi
> keluaran tempatan. Tak percaya buka web korea/jepun tengok sendiri
> harga tempatan kereta mereka berapa. (orang proton, produa, MITI
> kena pi
> belajar asas ekonomi lagi nie)
>
> P/s:- kekadang tertanya-tanya, apa kesudahannya cerita lawak di
> malaysia nie....
>
> From: baddRi Rozaimi <zordaq@yahoo. com>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <http://ps.com/>
> Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38:14
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
> Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak
> cover bonus kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita
> laa
> yg akan bg bonus raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah
> kena bayar.. nak gi jalan2 kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan
> lg.)..
> cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai)
> . harga kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat negara luar.. minyak mahal
> mcam kita
> beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde ladang tebu....orang yang
> akan merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada keluarga.. mampus
> laa si
> bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000 lg.. haha pening..
>
> 1 Malaysia ..
> Rakyat Didahulukan Duit ... Pencapaian Baru Diutamakan
>
> Mohd Badri Ibrahim - Badd
> 0123556142
> Zordaq Sdn Bhd
> G01 02 Jalan SM02 Taman Subang Mas,
> 47260 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
> http://www.ezordaq. <http://www.ezordaq./> com
> Spare Part - High Performance - Accessories Car
>
>
> From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@ yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com/>>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <http://ps.com/>
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> salam...
>
> kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena
> bayar... tol bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...
>
> tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....
>
> miskin kah kita??? ;-p
>
> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <http://ps.com/>
> Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah
> bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu
> kepada kajian dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita
> perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit
> analysis about
> 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian
> dan dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2
> murah ini
> amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar
> kepada negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba
> bercakap
> sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai
> di pihak yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan
> dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <http://ps.com/>
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
> majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan
> international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel,
> Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu
> kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha.
> Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu
> bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau
> dah
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM,
> Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena
> kerja
> tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com <http://ps.com/>, sheerina reen
> <chomels76@.. .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> >
> >
> > Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can
> confirm or add
> > similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One
> comparison I found
> > is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its
> RM62,000.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Car Prices In Malaysia
> >
> > BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
> >
> > In the United States of America (a developed country which we are
> also
> > Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
> > Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
> > Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW
> sells in
> > Malaysia for about RM450,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
> >
> > The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
> > RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
> > RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
> >
> > The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in
> the
> > US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would
> sell
> > For about RM265,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
> >
> > In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
> > RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
> > Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD
> 19,659.00
> > Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
> > RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
> >
> >
> > Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the
> prices in The
> > United States .
> > We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much
> cheaper than
> > the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
> > It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
> >
> > Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
> > Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
> > Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
> > Than Indonesia .
> >
> > The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
> > For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
> > g ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
> > Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to
> support an
> > Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
> >
> > We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
> > Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind
> boggling
> > AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
> Disproportionately
> > large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being
> impoverished to subsidise
> > the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
> >
> >
> > 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars
> just To
> > support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly
> Involved in
> > the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio
> of 216:1.
> >
> > This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people
> can Contribute
> > many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor
> industry. 26
> > million unhappy people can change a Government.
> > (The maths is not really difficult here)
> >
> > And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than
> anyone else.
> >
> > Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
> > Policy. This is truncated:
> >
> > Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component
> sector
> >
> > 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special
> focus
> > Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
> > Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
> > Regional economic downturn.
> >
> > 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
> > Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal
> Track
> > On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
> > Components,? he said.
> >
> > 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in
> Malaysia
> > Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
> > Domestic market.
> >
> > 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
> > Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the
> country.?
> >
> >
> > Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that
> the
> > Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This
> means
> > We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
> > Automobiles.
> >
> >
> > Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
> > Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga
> sekarang
> > (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi
> kurang,
> > mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
> >
> >
> > Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz,
> kalau
> > harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
> > bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
> >
> >
> > Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
> > belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
> > sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
> > dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
> > daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
> >
> >
> > This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without
> incurring
> > any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
> > will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
> > economic growth too.
> >
> >
> > Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
> > orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
> > pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
> > gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila,
> yang
> > menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
> >
> >
> > In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
> > are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
> > cars.
> >
> > Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
> > suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
> > too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are
> listed
> > companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
> > supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here
> is a
> > sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best
> efficiency.
> >
> >
> > Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so
> that
> > Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy.
> This
> > is not a good thing at all.
> >
> >
> > We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
> > to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
> > impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
> > reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
> >
> >
> > If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
> > little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
> >
> >
> > The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car
> industry as
> > though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up.
> The
> > Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in
> about
> > three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
> >
> >
> > The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
> > beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to
> become a
> > really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
> >
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> > Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
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1.4.

Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "bashah" bwasi@yahoo.com   bwasi

Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:21 pm (PDT)



TQ beri feedback. Saya check LHDN biasanya 28%, 2009 sahaja yg turun ke 27%

http://www.treasury.gov.my/pdf/akhbar/rebat_tambahan_rm50.pdf

Jadi % cukai Malaysia sama dengan USA.

USA ada hantar angkasawan pergi ISS. Malaysia pun hantar jugak seorang. Sedangkan Singapore Thailand Indonesia pun belum hantar lagi astronaut dia.

Balik ke bumi....Toll USA interstate, Toll Malaysia intercity - lebih hebat, lebih rapat, lebih sesak, walaupun rate lebih sikit..(cuma sekarang ni ada diskaun lepas pilihanraya lepas - ini bukan politik tapi kenyataan).

Car loan USA dikira at current loan balance. Car loan Malaysia dikira at front loan amount. Oleh itu kos car loan Malaysia secara teori tinggi sikit dari USA. Tapi ini aku tak sure, sapa ada pengalaman buat car loan di USA ? kalau compare pakai calculator di bawah aku bayar lebih 7,968 (unit to unit basis) di Malaysia dari di USA

http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/auto/auto-loan-calculator.aspx

Jika betul calculator ini, confirmed dahlah harga kereta tinggi, rate loan pun tinggi jugak. Insuran untuk kereta lama pun problem (Bank Negara..apa dah jadi ?), nak kena cek pi Puspakom pulak. Bayar kos lagi. Tidak mengapa, sebab kita mampu.

Dengar cerita , spara-part pun nak control sebab Menteri kata spare-part di pasaran banyak palsu. Jadi nanti terpaksalah pasang original di kereta umur 20 tahun. Biasanya Original harga lebih dari palsu. Tak tahulah pulak kalau ada kompeni nak tawar original lebih murah dari palsu. Tidak mengapa, keselamatan lebih penting dari duit.

Lagipun, Malaysia ialah negara yang kaya dan maju.

--- In automobil@yahoogroups.com, asbimoha@... wrote:
>
> Saya rasa ramai org tersilap fasal cukai di Malaysia dan di US ni. Sewaktu saya kerja di sana akhir tahun 90an dulu cukai yang dikenakan kpd saya ialah dalam 28pc. Sekarang cukai yang saya bayar dekat2 25pc jugak. Itu tak masuk road tax yg dekat rm400 di sini (kat US stiker Plat hanya dalam usd5 sahaja). Tol jangan kira lah. Sebulan dekat2 300. Itu utk urusan kerja sahaja. Kalau bercuti atau outstation lagi teruk la. Kat US pun ada tol tapi hanya utk interstate tertentu sahaja dan rate nya taklah sampai puluh2 ringgit sehala macam kat sini. Saya tak nak ulas fasal harga kereta sebab yang tu semua orang sudah tau.
> Sent from my BlackBerryĂ‚® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rezal_sapuan@...
> Sender: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:42:34
> To: <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> Salam,
>
> Kalau tak silap saya income tax kat us dalam 25% .... memang tinggi ....
> Macam kat Malaysia income tax rendah je ... Macam saya lepas tolak rebat
> zakat pendapatan, anak dan insuran perubatan, masih ada terlebih bayar
> lagi ... baru2 ni dapat cek RM685 dari LHDN ...
>
> Kesimpulan ... terpulang pada diri sendiri untuk menilainya ...
>
>
>
> From: waja timur <kayyanne78@...>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 21/07/2010 03:56 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salam,
>
> Nak mencelah sikit jek... Apa la yang kita nak bandingkan sistem ekonomi kita dengan US tu... Ramai orang tgk harga kereta kat US lagi murah dari
> kat sini... Dan abaikan faktor lain...
>
> Tapi jangan lupa... US memang tak letak cukai tinggi pada kereta... Lagi ganas, diorang belasah dekat cukai pendapatan atau dalam bahasa lain
> Income Tax... Aku takde exact figure tapi setakat pengetahuan cetek aku nie, Income Tax kat US bapak tinggi dari kat sini....
>
> Kesimpulan, mana lagi ok ... Cukai keta tinggi which kita ada pilihan either nak bayar ke tak (erti kata lain tak yah beli)..Or Income Tax tinggi
> yang kita nak tak nak memang kena bayar? Kalau tak bayar, government bole rampas segala harta benda...
>
> Pikir la.. Jangan tak pikir...
>
> 2 kupang jek...
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Cinan <nuriez76@...> wrote:
>
> From: Cinan <nuriez76@...>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
>
>
>
> Kita sebenarnya idup mengemis kat negara sendiri. Memang betul sesetengah pendapat, umpama negara kita nie tak punya apa-apa sumber. Sedangkan
> dimata rakyat, pemimpin mendabik dada mengisytiharkan rakyat malaysia lah yang sepatutnya tadah tangan bersyukur kepada kerajaan kerana nikmat
> pembangunan yang diberi oleh kerajaan pemerintah.
>
> Negara kita seperti tak ada loji carigali minyak di dalam negeri, sehinggakan minyak kita paling antara yang mahal di kalangan negara
> pengeluar minyak. (nak nampak murah, balik-balik harga minyak kita dibandingkan dengan singapura, depa mana loji sendiri).
>
> Harga kereta mengalahkan harga rumah kos sederhana. Nak murah beli kereta cap malaysia, tetapi teknologi masih lagi menyadur dari kereta jepun
> 5 tahun lepas. Mari bezakan dengan jenama Korea (kini dah tembus pasaran US & eropah akibat peningkatan teknologi & ciri keselamatan &
> piawaian product yang ketat) pasaran semakin meluas, seterusnya meningkatlah jumlah pengeluaran, maka boleh lah direndahkan harga bagi
> keluaran tempatan. Tak percaya buka web korea/jepun tengok sendiri harga tempatan kereta mereka berapa. (orang proton, produa, MITI kena pi
> belajar asas ekonomi lagi nie)
>
> P/s:- kekadang tertanya-tanya, apa kesudahannya cerita lawak di malaysia nie....
>
> From: baddRi Rozaimi <zordaq@yahoo. com>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38:14
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
> Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak cover bonus kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita laa
> yg akan bg bonus raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah kena bayar.. nak gi jalan2 kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan lg.)..
> cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai) . harga kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat negara luar.. minyak mahal mcam kita
> beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde ladang tebu....orang yang akan merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada keluarga.. mampus laa si
> bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000 lg.. haha pening..
>
> 1 Malaysia ..
> Rakyat Didahulukan Duit ... Pencapaian Baru Diutamakan
>
> Mohd Badri Ibrahim - Badd
> 0123556142
> Zordaq Sdn Bhd
> G01 02 Jalan SM02 Taman Subang Mas,
> 47260 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
> http://www.ezordaq. com
> Spare Part - High Performance - Accessories Car
>
>
> From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@ yahoo.com>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> salam...
>
> kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena bayar... tol bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...
>
> tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....
>
> miskin kah kita??? ;-p
>
> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis about
> 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini
> amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap
> sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, . Selain itu
> kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha. Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM, Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja
> tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> >
> >
> > Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm or add
> > similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One comparison I found
> > is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its RM62,000.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Car Prices In Malaysia
> >
> > BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
> >
> > In the United States of America (a developed country which we are also
> > Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
> > Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
> > Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells in
> > Malaysia for about RM450,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
> >
> > The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
> > RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
> > RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
> >
> > The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in the
> > US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would sell
> > For about RM265,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
> >
> > In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039 or
> > RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
> > Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
> >
> >
> >
> > And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD 19,659.00
> > Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
> > RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
> >
> >
> > Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices in The
> > United States .
> > We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much cheaper than
> > the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
> > It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
> >
> > Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
> > Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car sells
> > Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
> > Than Indonesia .
> >
> > The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz sells
> > For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
> > g ridiculously high prices (and actually impoverishing the
> > Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support an
> > Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
> >
> > We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
> > Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind boggling
> > AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A Disproportionately
> > large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished to subsidise
> > the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
> >
> >
> > 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars just To
> > support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly Involved in
> > the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of 216:1.
> >
> > This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can Contribute
> > many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor industry. 26
> > million unhappy people can change a Government.
> > (The maths is not really difficult here)
> >
> > And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than anyone else.
> >
> > Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our car
> > Policy. This is truncated:
> >
> > Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component sector
> >
> > 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special focus
> > Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
> > Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global and
> > Regional economic downturn.
> >
> > 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia has
> > Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal Track
> > On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
> > Components,? he said.
> >
> > 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in Malaysia
> > Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on the
> > Domestic market.
> >
> > 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
> > Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the country.?
> >
> >
> > Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that the
> > Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This means
> > We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
> > Automobiles.
> >
> >
> > Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
> > Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga sekarang
> > (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi kurang,
> > mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
> >
> >
> > Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz, kalau
> > harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
> > bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
> >
> >
> > Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
> > belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
> > sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
> > dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
> > daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
> >
> >
> > This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without incurring
> > any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
> > will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
> > economic growth too.
> >
> >
> > Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin dulu
> > orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
> > pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
> > gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila, yang
> > menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
> >
> >
> > In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
> > are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
> > cars.
> >
> > Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
> > suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts suppliers
> > too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are listed
> > companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
> > supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is a
> > sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best efficiency.
> >
> >
> > Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so that
> > Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy. This
> > is not a good thing at all.
> >
> >
> > We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from now
> > to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
> > impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
> > reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
> >
> >
> > If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
> > little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are cheaper).
> >
> >
> > The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry as
> > though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up. The
> > Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in about
> > three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
> >
> >
> > The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
> > beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to become a
> > really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos.
> >
>

1.5.

Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "AWIN ZIZUL" awinzul@yahoo.com   awinzul

Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:23 pm (PDT)



info yg berguna..
walaubagaimanapun kita tetap perlu melihat sesuatu permasalahan itu dari sudut overall..
stp negara ada kelebihan dan kekurangan masing2. tak semuanya perfect..
for me im proud to be malaysian..

--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Quwarrizxmy Qurraizy <qurraizy@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Quwarrizxmy Qurraizy <qurraizy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 3:10 AM

 

bagus2

info yg berguna

bila la saya dpt pi sana

nih pon dh nak pencen

On 22/07/2010, asbimoha@gmail.com <asbimoha@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saya rasa ramai org tersilap fasal cukai di Malaysia dan di US ni. Sewaktu
> saya kerja di sana akhir tahun 90an dulu cukai yang dikenakan kpd saya
> ialah dalam 28pc. Sekarang cukai yang saya bayar dekat2 25pc jugak. Itu tak
> masuk road tax yg dekat rm400 di sini (kat US stiker Plat hanya dalam usd5
> sahaja). Tol jangan kira lah. Sebulan dekat2 300. Itu utk urusan kerja
> sahaja. Kalau bercuti atau outstation lagi teruk la. Kat US pun ada tol
> tapi hanya utk interstate tertentu sahaja dan rate nya taklah sampai puluh2
> ringgit sehala macam kat sini. Saya tak nak ulas fasal harga kereta sebab
> yang tu semua orang sudah tau.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rezal_sapuan@amtek.my
> Sender: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:42:34
> To: <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> Salam,
>
> Kalau tak silap saya income tax kat us dalam 25% .... memang tinggi ....
> Macam kat Malaysia income tax rendah je ... Macam saya lepas tolak rebat
> zakat pendapatan, anak dan insuran perubatan, masih ada terlebih bayar
> lagi ... baru2 ni dapat cek RM685 dari LHDN ...
>
> Kesimpulan ... terpulang pada diri sendiri untuk menilainya ...
>
>
>
> From: waja timur <kayyanne78@yahoo.com>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 21/07/2010 03:56 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
> Nak mencelah sikit jek... Apa la yang kita nak bandingkan sistem ekonomi
> kita dengan US tu... Ramai orang tgk harga kereta kat US lagi murah dari
>
> kat sini... Dan abaikan faktor lain...
>
>
> Tapi jangan lupa... US memang tak letak cukai tinggi pada kereta... Lagi
> ganas, diorang belasah dekat cukai pendapatan atau dalam bahasa lain
> Income Tax... Aku takde exact figure tapi setakat pengetahuan cetek aku
> nie, Income Tax kat US bapak tinggi dari kat sini....
>
>
> Kesimpulan, mana lagi ok ... Cukai keta tinggi which kita ada pilihan
> either nak bayar ke tak (erti kata lain tak yah beli)..Or Income Tax tinggi
>
> yang kita nak tak nak memang kena bayar? Kalau tak bayar, government bole
> rampas segala harta benda...
>
> Pikir la.. Jangan tak pikir...
>
>
> 2 kupang jek...
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Kita sebenarnya idup mengemis kat negara sendiri. Memang betul
> sesetengah pendapat, umpama negara kita nie tak punya apa-apa sumber.
> Sedangkan
> dimata rakyat, pemimpin mendabik dada mengisytiharkan rakyat malaysia
> lah yang sepatutnya tadah tangan bersyukur kepada kerajaan kerana nikmat
> pembangunan yang diberi oleh kerajaan pemerintah.
>
>
> Negara kita seperti tak ada loji carigali minyak di dalam negeri,
> sehinggakan minyak kita paling antara yang mahal di kalangan negara
>
> pengeluar minyak. (nak nampak murah, balik-balik harga minyak kita
> dibandingkan dengan singapura, depa mana loji sendiri).
>
>
> Harga kereta mengalahkan harga rumah kos sederhana. Nak murah beli
> kereta cap malaysia, tetapi teknologi masih lagi menyadur dari kereta jepun
>
> 5 tahun lepas. Mari bezakan dengan jenama Korea (kini dah tembus
> pasaran US & eropah akibat peningkatan teknologi & ciri keselamatan &
>
> piawaian product yang ketat) pasaran semakin meluas, seterusnya
> meningkatlah jumlah pengeluaran, maka boleh lah direndahkan harga bagi
>
> keluaran tempatan. Tak percaya buka web korea/jepun tengok sendiri
> harga tempatan kereta mereka berapa. (orang proton, produa, MITI kena pi
>
> belajar asas ekonomi lagi nie)
>
>
> P/s:- kekadang tertanya-tanya, apa kesudahannya cerita lawak di
> malaysia nie....
>
>
> From: baddRi Rozaimi <zordaq@yahoo. com>
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38:14
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
> Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak
> cover bonus kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita laa
> yg akan bg bonus raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah
> kena bayar.. nak gi jalan2 kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan lg.)..
>
> cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai) .
> harga kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat negara luar.. minyak mahal mcam kita
> beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde ladang tebu....orang yang
> akan merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada keluarga.. mampus laa si
>
> bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000 lg.. haha
> pening..
>
>
> 1 Malaysia ..
>
> Rakyat Didahulukan Duit ... Pencapaian Baru Diutamakan
>
>
> Mohd Badri Ibrahim - Badd
>
> 0123556142
>
> Zordaq Sdn Bhd
>
> G01 02 Jalan SM02 Taman Subang Mas,
>
> 47260 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
>
> http://www.ezordaq. com
>
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>
>
>
> From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@ yahoo.com>
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> salam...
>
>
> kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena
> bayar... tol bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...
>
>
> tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....
>
>
> miskin kah kita??? ;-p
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
>
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah
> bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian
> dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita
> perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis
> about
> 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan
> dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini
>
> amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada
> negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap
> sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak
> yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
> majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
>
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan
> international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, .
> Selain itu
> kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha.
> Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu
> bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah
>
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM,
> Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja
> tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm
> or add
> > similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One
> comparison I found
>
> > is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its
> RM62,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> >
>
> > BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > In the United States of America (a developed country which we are
> also
> > Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
>
> > Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
>
> > Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells
> in
> > Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
>
> > RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
>
> > RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in
> the
> > US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would
> sell
>
> > For about RM265,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039
> or
> > RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
>
> > Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD
> 19,659.00
>
> > Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
>
> > RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices
> in The
> > United States .
>
> > We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much
> cheaper than
> > the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
>
> > It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>
> >
>
> > Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
>
> > Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car
> sells
>
> > Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
>
> > Than Indonesia .
>
> >
>
> > The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz
> sells
>
> > For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>
> >
> g ridiculously high prices (and
> actually impoverishing the
>
> > Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support
> an
> > Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>
> >
>
> > We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
>
> > Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind
> boggling
>
> > AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
> Disproportionately
>
> > large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished
> to subsidise
> > the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars
> just To
> > support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly
> Involved in
> > the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of
> 216:1.
> >
>
> > This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can
> Contribute
> > many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor
> industry. 26
>
> > million unhappy people can change a Government.
>
> > (The maths is not really difficult here)
>
> >
>
> > And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than
> anyone else.
>
> >
>
> > Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our
> car
>
> > Policy. This is truncated:
>
> >
>
> > Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component
> sector
> >
>
> > 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special
> focus
>
> > Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
>
> > Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global
> and
>
> > Regional economic downturn.
>
> >
>
> > 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia
> has
>
> > Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal
> Track
>
> > On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
>
> > Components,? he said.
>
> >
>
> > 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in
> Malaysia
>
> > Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on
> the
>
> > Domestic market.
>
> >
>
> > 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
>
> > Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the
> country.?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that
> the
> > Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This
> means
>
> > We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
>
> > Automobiles.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
>
> > Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga
> sekarang
>
> > (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi
> kurang,
>
> > mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz,
> kalau
>
> > harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
>
> > bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
>
> > belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
>
> > sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
>
> > dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
>
> > daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without
> incurring
>
> > any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
>
> > will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
>
> > economic growth too.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin
> dulu
>
> > orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
>
> > pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
>
> > gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila,
> yang
>
> > menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
>
> > are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
>
> > cars.
>
> >
>
> > Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
>
> > suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts
> suppliers
>
> > too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are
> listed
>
> > companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
>
> > supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is
> a
> > sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best
> efficiency.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so
> that
> > Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy.
> This
> > is not a good thing at all.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from
> now
>
> > to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
>
> > impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
>
> > reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
>
> > little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are
> cheaper).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry
> as
> > though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up.
> The
> > Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in
> about
>
> > three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
>
> > beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to
> become a
>
> > really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>
> >
>
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> > Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
>
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1.6.

Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia

Posted by: "abgmad" fuzzyinn@yahoo.com   fuzzyinn

Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:24 pm (PDT)



Maaf cakap la klu terkasar sikit "hanya katak bawah tempurung jer" yg duk sokong dasar kerajaan.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Quwarrizxmy Qurraizy <qurraizy@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:10:22
To: <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
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bagus2

info yg berguna

bila la saya dpt pi sana

nih pon dh nak pencen

On 22/07/2010, asbimoha@gmail.com <asbimoha@gmail.com> wrote:
> Saya rasa ramai org tersilap fasal cukai di Malaysia dan di US ni. Sewaktu
> saya kerja di sana akhir tahun 90an dulu cukai yang dikenakan kpd saya
> ialah dalam 28pc. Sekarang cukai yang saya bayar dekat2 25pc jugak. Itu tak
> masuk road tax yg dekat rm400 di sini (kat US stiker Plat hanya dalam usd5
> sahaja). Tol jangan kira lah. Sebulan dekat2 300. Itu utk urusan kerja
> sahaja. Kalau bercuti atau outstation lagi teruk la. Kat US pun ada tol
> tapi hanya utk interstate tertentu sahaja dan rate nya taklah sampai puluh2
> ringgit sehala macam kat sini. Saya tak nak ulas fasal harga kereta sebab
> yang tu semua orang sudah tau.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rezal_sapuan@amtek.my
> Sender: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:42:34
> To: <automobil@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> Salam,
>
> Kalau tak silap saya income tax kat us dalam 25% .... memang tinggi ....
> Macam kat Malaysia income tax rendah je ... Macam saya lepas tolak rebat
> zakat pendapatan, anak dan insuran perubatan, masih ada terlebih bayar
> lagi ... baru2 ni dapat cek RM685 dari LHDN ...
>
> Kesimpulan ... terpulang pada diri sendiri untuk menilainya ...
>
>
>
> From: waja timur <kayyanne78@yahoo.com>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 21/07/2010 03:56 PM
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
> Sent by: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
> Nak mencelah sikit jek... Apa la yang kita nak bandingkan sistem ekonomi
> kita dengan US tu... Ramai orang tgk harga kereta kat US lagi murah dari
>
> kat sini... Dan abaikan faktor lain...
>
>
> Tapi jangan lupa... US memang tak letak cukai tinggi pada kereta... Lagi
> ganas, diorang belasah dekat cukai pendapatan atau dalam bahasa lain
> Income Tax... Aku takde exact figure tapi setakat pengetahuan cetek aku
> nie, Income Tax kat US bapak tinggi dari kat sini....
>
>
> Kesimpulan, mana lagi ok ... Cukai keta tinggi which kita ada pilihan
> either nak bayar ke tak (erti kata lain tak yah beli)..Or Income Tax tinggi
>
> yang kita nak tak nak memang kena bayar? Kalau tak bayar, government bole
> rampas segala harta benda...
>
> Pikir la.. Jangan tak pikir...
>
>
> 2 kupang jek...
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cinan <nuriez76@rocketmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga.com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 9:03 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Kita sebenarnya idup mengemis kat negara sendiri. Memang betul
> sesetengah pendapat, umpama negara kita nie tak punya apa-apa sumber.
> Sedangkan
> dimata rakyat, pemimpin mendabik dada mengisytiharkan rakyat malaysia
> lah yang sepatutnya tadah tangan bersyukur kepada kerajaan kerana nikmat
> pembangunan yang diberi oleh kerajaan pemerintah.
>
>
> Negara kita seperti tak ada loji carigali minyak di dalam negeri,
> sehinggakan minyak kita paling antara yang mahal di kalangan negara
>
> pengeluar minyak. (nak nampak murah, balik-balik harga minyak kita
> dibandingkan dengan singapura, depa mana loji sendiri).
>
>
> Harga kereta mengalahkan harga rumah kos sederhana. Nak murah beli
> kereta cap malaysia, tetapi teknologi masih lagi menyadur dari kereta jepun
>
> 5 tahun lepas. Mari bezakan dengan jenama Korea (kini dah tembus
> pasaran US & eropah akibat peningkatan teknologi & ciri keselamatan &
>
> piawaian product yang ketat) pasaran semakin meluas, seterusnya
> meningkatlah jumlah pengeluaran, maka boleh lah direndahkan harga bagi
>
> keluaran tempatan. Tak percaya buka web korea/jepun tengok sendiri
> harga tempatan kereta mereka berapa. (orang proton, produa, MITI kena pi
>
> belajar asas ekonomi lagi nie)
>
>
> P/s:- kekadang tertanya-tanya, apa kesudahannya cerita lawak di
> malaysia nie....
>
>
> From: baddRi Rozaimi <zordaq@yahoo. com>
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:38:14
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
> Entah laa.. aku pun rasa pelik... aku rasa dia orang naik sebab nak
> cover bonus kot.. yg sedia ada untuk bulan2 dia orang jer... so kita laa
> yg akan bg bonus raya kat dia orang.. sedih..saman speed track dah
> kena bayar.. nak gi jalan2 kena bayar...( tol laa.. minyak laa.makan lg.)..
>
> cukai sana sini.(cukai kereta laa.. pintu.. tanah laa..mcam2 cukai) .
> harga kereta tinggi.. mcam beli kat negara luar.. minyak mahal mcam kita
> beli kat US.. gula naik mcam kita takde ladang tebu....orang yang
> akan merana org gaji bawah RM3000.00.. kena ada keluarga.. mampus laa si
>
> bapak tu.. kerja laa siang malam.. nak dapat rm1000 lg.. haha
> pening..
>
>
> 1 Malaysia ..
>
> Rakyat Didahulukan Duit ... Pencapaian Baru Diutamakan
>
>
> Mohd Badri Ibrahim - Badd
>
> 0123556142
>
> Zordaq Sdn Bhd
>
> G01 02 Jalan SM02 Taman Subang Mas,
>
> 47260 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.
>
> http://www.ezordaq. com
>
> Spare Part - High Performance - Accessories Car
>
>
>
> From: almustaqeem <almustaqeem@ yahoo.com>
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 5:41:29 PM
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> salam...
>
>
> kete mahal... minyak pon dah naik harga (lagi), roadtax tahun2 kena
> bayar... tol bersepah jalan sikit tol... jalan sikit tol...
>
>
> tapi kenderaan tetap banyak di jalan raya....
>
>
> miskin kah kita??? ;-p
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: zamri harun <zamlope@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: Re: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Cc: bwasi@yahoo. com
>
> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 12:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sungguh malang bila kita mula mempolitikan apa sahaja. Begitu mudah
> bercakap dan mengutuk apalagi cakap cakap tersebut tidak perlu kepada kajian
> dan
> kebenaran. Pada pendapat saya, setiap kali kita mahu berhujah, kita
> perlukan hujah yang matang dan berintelek, yang dibuat sedikit analysis
> about
> 'why' do that and why dont. Cakap2 pasar yg tidak berlandasan kajian dan
> dayafikir ini adalah cakap2 politik yang murah. Fenomena cakap2 murah ini
>
> amatlah mewarnai negara sekarang. Ini semua adalah kerugian yg besar kepada
> negara bila rakyat semakin dibodohkan oleh politik dan cuba bercakap
> sesuatu yg mereka sendiri tidak arif tetapi cuba bertindak sebagai di pihak
> yang betul dan arif. Memalukan jika kita membaca tulisan dibawah.
>
> --- On Wed, 7/14/10, bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: bashah <bwasi@yahoo. com>
>
> Subject: www.auto.pdniaga. com - Re: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> To: automobil@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:21 AM
>
>
>
> Sapa kata Malaysia developing nation?. Kita dah masuk tahap negara
> majulah..actually kita dah capai status sama dengan USA masa tahun 2005
>
> lepas gawat 1998.
>
>
> Kita ialah juara forum, macam2 forum, dan juga macam2 sukan
> international F1, F2 , Moonsoon, Langkawi, Komanwel, Selatan-Selatan, .
> Selain itu
> kita juga dah jadi United Nation ..- banyak Indon , bangla, Gurkha.
> Itu bukti Malaysia adalah negara maju.
>
> jalan pulak sesak, dan banyak berlubang,dan banyk 'aksi'den, itu
> bukti kenderaan terlalu bnayk walaupun 3x ganda mahal..apalagi kalau dah
>
> murah...sebab itu Malaysia ialah negara maju.
>
>
> Selain kerja tetap, Kita juga buat part-time - oleh itu banyak MLM,
> Diamond, Intan, manager - dapat pulak bonus kereta....Bini pun kena kerja
> tak macam dulu2....so itu pun bukti kita negara maju.
>
>
> Tak perlu tunggu 2020.
>
>
> --- In automobil@yahoogrou ps.com, sheerina reen <chomels76@.. .>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Fw: Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >________________________________
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Numbers given in this email are not verified. If anyone can confirm
> or add
> > similar figures, please feel free to reply this email. One
> comparison I found
>
> > is Avanza 1.3MT in Indonesia is RM46,000 while in Malaysia its
> RM62,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Car Prices In Malaysia
>
> >
>
> > BMW 535isells for RM178,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > In the United States of America (a developed country which we are
> also
> > Aspiring to become by the year 2020) a 2009 model BMW 535i Sedan is
>
> > Selling for about USD50,367.00. This is only RM178,000 ? about the
>
> > Price of a Toyota Camry 2.4L here in Malaysia . The same BMW sells
> in
> > Malaysia for about RM450,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > BMW 328isells for RM155,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > The 2009 model BMW 328i 2 door Convertible sells for USD44,014 or
>
> > RM155,369.00 in the US . In Malaysia the same car sells for over
>
> > RM460,000.This is an untenable situation.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet Convertiblesells for RM142,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > The 2009 model Audi A4 2 Door 2.0T Cabriolet Convertible sells in
> the
> > US for USD40,328.00 or RM142,357. In Malaysia the same car would
> sell
>
> > For about RM265,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > VW GTI 2.0Tsells for RM85,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> > In the US the 2009 model Volkswagen GTI 2.0T sells for USD 24,039
> or
> > RM85,000 only. In Chinathe same car will cost around RM60,000. Over
>
> > Here the same VW car sells for about RM200,000.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > And the 2010 model Toyota Camry 2.4Lsells in the US for USD
> 19,659.00
>
> > Or RM69,396In Malaysia the 2008 Toyota Camry 2.4L sells for
>
> > RM170,000. Toyota Camry 2.4L, 2010 model. RM69,000 in the US
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Car prices in Malaysia are about three times higher than the prices
> in The
> > United States .
>
> > We are a developing nation. Our land and labour Costs are so much
> cheaper than
> > the US . Why are our cars so expensive?
>
> > It does not make any sense. Tak masuk akal.
>
> >
>
> > Then here are some car prices from our neighbour Indonesia . The
>
> > Toyota Altissells in Indonesiafor about RM46,000. The same car
> sells
>
> > Here for around RM 112,000.Again we are three times more expensive
>
> > Than Indonesia .
>
> >
>
> > The Honda Jazz sells here for RM108,000.. In Indonesiathe Jazz
> sells
>
> > For RM 36,000. Three times more expensive.
>
> >
> g ridiculously high prices (and
> actually impoverishing the
>
> > Malays ? who are the largest buyers of cars in Malaysia) to support
> an
> > Out of date, out of touch with reality motor car policy.
>
> >
>
> > We are paying the highest car prices in the world to support the
>
> > Proton and other locally made cars as well as support a mind
> boggling
>
> > AP policy which only benefits a relatively few rich Malays. A
> Disproportionately
>
> > large number of Malays and other Malaysians are Being impoverished
> to subsidise
> > the wealth of a few inefficient rich.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 26 million Malaysians have to pay three times more for their cars
> just To
> > support Proton and 120,000 people who are directly and indirectly
> Involved in
> > the motor sector in Malaysia and the AP holders. That is a Ratio of
> 216:1.
> >
>
> > This ratio of 216:1 is too skewed. 26.0 million happier people can
> Contribute
> > many more votes than 120,000 members of an inefficient Motor
> industry. 26
>
> > million unhappy people can change a Government.
>
> > (The maths is not really difficult here)
>
> >
>
> > And this outdated policy is impoverishing the Malays more than
> anyone else.
>
> >
>
> > Here is some news from our DPM Tan Sri Muhyudin Yassin about our
> car
>
> > Policy. This is truncated:
>
> >
>
> > Muhyiddin assures govt support for automotive parts and component
> sector
> >
>
> > 1. KUALA LUMPUR, May 26 ? The deputy prime minister said special
> focus
>
> > Will be given to ?facilitate and encourage? the development of the
>
> > Automotive parts and component sector despite the current global
> and
>
> > Regional economic downturn.
>
> >
>
> > 2. ?Under the CEPT and Asean Trade in Goods Agreements, Malaysia
> has
>
> > Agreed to eliminate import duties on all products in the Normal
> Track
>
> > On January 1, 2010. This includes motor vehicles, auto parts and
>
> > Components,? he said.
>
> >
>
> > 3. He pointed out that . . . The motor vehicle sub sector in
> Malaysia
>
> > Will not be directly impacted because of its heavy dependence on
> the
>
> > Domestic market.
>
> >
>
> > 4. ?The Malaysian government recognises the contribution of the
>
> > Domestic automotive industry towards the development of the
> country.?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Para 2 sounds promising but then Para 3 and 4 basically says that
> the
> > Malaysian motor car industry will continue to be protected. This
> means
>
> > We will continue paying the highest car prices in the world for
>
> > Automobiles.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Cuba Kita kira : kalau kereta Honda Jazz di jual dengan harga yang
>
> > Sebenarnya (lebih kurang RM36,000 saja) Dan bukan pada harga
> sekarang
>
> > (RM108,000) maksudnya bayaran bulanan pembeli kereta akan jadi
> kurang,
>
> > mungkin sepertiga sahaja daripada bayaran bulanan sekarang.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Jika sekarang orang bayar RM1,500 sebulan untuk beli Honda Jazz,
> kalau
>
> > harga kereta lebih menepati harga pasaran dunia, orang kita perlu
>
> > bayar sekitar RM500 saja sebulan.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Maksudnya tanpa Kerajaan perlu membuat apa pun (merangsang ekonomi,
>
> > belanja berpuluh billion Ringgit duit rakyat untuk stimulus dan
>
> > sebagainya) setiap rakyat Malaysia yang membeli kereta yang seharga
>
> > dengan Honda Jazz akan dapat menjimatkan sehingga RM1,000 sebulan
>
> > daripada kos sara hidup bulanannya.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > This is like giving the car buyer an RM1000 pay rise without
> incurring
>
> > any extra costs for the taxpayer, the Government or the economy. It
>
> > will greatly reduce the cost of living in Malaysia and spur greater
>
> > economic growth too.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Tapi sekarang, yang menjadi mangsa dulu dan yang menjadi miskin
> dulu
>
> > orang Melayu juga. Orang Melayu yang paling ramai sekali menjadi
>
> > pembeli kereta dalam negara kita. Orang Melayu kebanyakannya makan
>
> > gaji ? tiap bulan dapat gaji tetap. Bila harga kereta naik gila,
> yang
>
> > menjadi miskin di saf depan sekali adalah orang Melayu juga.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In absolute numbers, the Malays are suffering the most because they
>
> > are the most in number among the fixed income people who also buy
>
> > cars.
>
> >
>
> > Some folks said the other day that Proton has 150 major component
>
> > suppliers, dealers, distributors and about 500 other parts
> suppliers
>
> > too. Of the 150 major component suppliers, about 15 of them are
> listed
>
> > companies. In total they employ about 120,000 people. The Proton
>
> > supply chain is a mix of bumiputras and non bumiputras. But here is
> a
> > sad fact : none of them are operating at their level best
> efficiency.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Our motor car policy is forcing Malaysians to subsidise Proton so
> that
> > Proton can sustain major inefficiencies in the Malaysian economy.
> This
> > is not a good thing at all.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > We have to unwind this situation. Set a target of 18 months from
> now
>
> > to unwind all protection for our motor industry. Remove the
>
> > impoverishing AP policy also in 18 months. Let Malaysian car prices
>
> > reflect world market prices for the same makes of cars.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If a BMW 535 sells for RM178,000 in America , it should sell for a
>
> > little less here in Malaysia (our rentals and salaries are
> cheaper).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The Ministers continue making pronouncements about the car industry
> as
> > though nothing has happened. I hope everyone will please wake up.
> The
> > Government has a real chance of getting thrown out of office in
> about
>
> > three years. The people will not accept inept answers anymore.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The ridiculous car prices in Malaysia is an issue that is just
>
> > beginning to get more attention and publicity. It is going to
> become a
>
> > really big issue in the near future. Be forewarned.
>
> >
>
> >________________________________
>
> > Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want.
>
> >________________________________
>
> > With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos.
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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